Everton Banter Archive August 08 2017

 

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08 Aug 2017 20:49:50
Ed2. You always had a go at us fans for saying we need a statement signing but les reed from Southampton said lemina was a 'significant statement of intent from the club".

Do clubs really care who other clubs sign? Are statement signings really important in modern day football?

I would much rather we bought players who make us a better team rather than fantastic individuals.

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{Ed002's Note - I don't recall saying "you need a statement signing", sorry. I suspect you have gotten a little off key since,}

09 Aug 2017 10:23:32
No. Bit of misunderstanding. Some of our fans were asking for a statement signing and you said things like ' who would this statement be made to? (6th july 2017) ' and 'what would this statement of intent mean? Are clubs really concerned? (19th Jan 2017)

Just wondered why you didn't agree with the term 'Statement of intent' when people in the game are using the term?

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{Ed002's Note - Which people in the "game" are using it? Ex players? Footballers are typically dumb as a box of rocks. The term means nothing. If Stoke were to sign Kovacic from Real Madrid, would the Everton board gather to discuss it? Would Koeman be on the phone to his sister telling her how scared he now is?}

08 Aug 2017 21:43:49
we lost lukaku and although we have made good sighnings we need a marquee sighning not giroud he is too old and too cheap. we have received 1oo million and spent £110 million we need to spend £50-£80 million on aguero or £100 million on bale nothing is impossible we need to think bigger otherwise top 4 just won't happen.

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{Ed025's Note - garibaldi...that takes the biscuit mate..

08 Aug 2017 22:06:55
Cuckoo cuckoo 😊.

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08 Aug 2017 22:10:14
yea your not wrong my mate my name is garry and i'm baldy i used to be a ginger nut see how it follows . i really think though we need to spend big on a striker. lukaku is almost impossible to replace.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree on a top striker garry..

08 Aug 2017 22:11:23
Yeah let's not buy Giroud because he's too cheap lol. Genius.

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08 Aug 2017 22:11:35
Why not just go for Messi or Ronaldo? Did PSG sign Neymar yet? Maybe we could scupper that deal.

Yea, right. There is thinking big and then there is insanity.

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08 Aug 2017 22:11:59
Wow! Just wow! I mean - wow!

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08 Aug 2017 22:34:22
Swerve bale - he's cuptied

Haha.

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08 Aug 2017 22:46:09
Who is this Neymar character not a player I am aware of, is he any good? 😉.

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08 Aug 2017 23:33:47
There's a Brazilian who plays for a small club wanting out. Think he's called Coutinho.

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09 Aug 2017 09:07:05
Christ tonight, turn off the xbox mate, this is what playing football games does to some people.

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08 Aug 2017 20:28:46
It's just one half in a pretty meaningless match but it is becoming apparent that when I always screamed we don't give Lukaku good enough service I may have been wrong. It's seems that his positional sense and in ability to bring others in to the game causes his lack of service.
Look he's going to be captain of my fantasy team because he'll score 30+ this season but against decent defenses he just isn't good enough.

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09 Aug 2017 07:15:47
What about that amazing goal against Chelsea. Remember the crowd went absolutely mental.

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08 Aug 2017 20:14:07
Are we completely out of the question for VVD? I know he has played under koeman before and been linked to some big clubs but I'm seeing links to Everton appear again.

Don't we all just wish we put a bid in with Celtic a few years ago. We were definitely linked at some point.

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08 Aug 2017 20:29:36
Sadly not in the same league in terms of wages and CL that will be offered to him.

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08 Aug 2017 20:39:17
Have a look at Bas Dost on YouTube.
This guy would be ideal for us. Great, great header of the ball. 6ft 5" but very nimble with pace and footwork. Could get him for 40m.

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08 Aug 2017 22:49:53
Thought he was a dj. oh wait that's baz Todd. Hahaha.

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09 Aug 2017 06:48:24
TOTALLY. I'd put any thoughts about Van Dijk joining Everton outta your heads. Nothing to do with Everton.
Svenny, is very good that you know your level and have made peace with it.

Ed25, hope you still well my good mate.

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{Ed025's Note - hi suku, knowing our level seems to imply that we cant attract the bigger players, we are doing fine thanks very much and are on the same level as teams such as liverpool if not higher mate..

08 Aug 2017 20:08:05
eds, not what you think now, but i say enough is enough with sigurddson deal, its been weeks, we could have had a qaulity striker in aswell, i say pull out now and try buy a qaulity striker to at least make the bench for stoke game, they are trying to pin us in a corner with this 50mil price tag, he doesn't want to be there and his value is going to drop in another 12 months time so there gunna lose out anyway. MOVE ON! coyb.

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08 Aug 2017 22:17:25
I feel sorry for everyone involved. Swansea because they know he is vital to their survival, Sig because he wants to come and his head is battered and us because we want him and see him as our main target and piece in the jigsaw.

I hope we can get it over the line.

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08 Aug 2017 20:07:24
No doubt we will already have alternatives lined up. No doubt be a lot of work to do and will take time but i'm guessing we would already made some contact regarding 2nd and 3rd targets.

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08 Aug 2017 19:53:28
any Eds got any info on why we would have a bid accepted only to withdraw it 48 hours later and offer less if that's true it's a disgrace and we should be ashamed of ourselves sigs wants to move and we want to sign him he has told Swansea this so this latest development doesn't help anybody out r we just playing hardball or are we having second thoughts.

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{Ed025's Note - i really dont know what the hell is going on bluey..

08 Aug 2017 20:05:30
doesn't look good does it ED25 I mean he could of signed by now and been involved at the weekend instead he is left in limbo.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree bluey, something has gone wrong somewhere and i just hope it does not scupper our plans mate..

08 Aug 2017 20:07:20
Moshiri has pulled out of buying the club because some of the fans are so depressing and negative that he has thrown the towel in,

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08 Aug 2017 20:25:49
Love it Murf mate, lucky it only a few moaners as usual cheers GuernseyBlue.

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08 Aug 2017 23:44:21
Everton's transfers have an unfortunate habit of being longwinded, but, it has never been surrgusted (until now) that they have actted in bad faith.
The club prides itself on acting in an honorable way in such matters, when many others (mentioning no names) have had a caviller approach to such matters.

Thus I find it hard to understand, or for that matter believe that the club has gone back on it's word, in fact it seems more likely that this is spin, put out by Swansea to put pressure on everton, and if so, good player or not, we should walk away, he is not mesia, or naymar, but a over price big fish, and only that because he is in such a small insignificant pond.

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08 Aug 2017 19:44:03
Think it media crap to sell papers, remain confident blue boys, from what i hear from a source inside Goodison, but he is only a Chef i'm affraid lol.

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08 Aug 2017 20:09:30
Of course it is Howard mate just the usual media hype don't worry about it folks, its only to sell their crap rags, GuernseyBlue.

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08 Aug 2017 19:40:06
Keep your hair on folks insiders saying talks still AND the deal will be done. GuernseyBlue.

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08 Aug 2017 18:29:50
Should have got that Polish mush who put that girl in a suitcase in Milan to broker the siggy deal, wallop get in there we're off to goodison.

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09 Aug 2017 07:21:18
Yeah but he would of released him 6 days later.

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08 Aug 2017 19:33:39
Not good reading on SSN, hope there wrong, as per usual COYB.

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08 Aug 2017 19:22:48
SSN are saying talks have broken down between Everton and Swansea over the Gilfi deal. Apparently we've decided to back track to the 40mil deal that was previously on the table! It's not helping either team. It's leaving less and less time for secondary solution purchases if it doesn't happen!

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08 Aug 2017 17:03:07
Also it's not just the Sigurdsson deal it's every deal has come to a halt.

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08 Aug 2017 17:30:35
It does seem abit like that, and now seemed like we are waiting to sell before we can commit to buying other players, so intact we only had the lukaku money in the first place, so if he didn't leave would we have spent so much on the players we brought in, hope it's not the case and we push on with other targets and have a real good go.

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08 Aug 2017 18:07:47
11 new signings and still 3 weeks to go, how many signings will it take to make you happy?

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08 Aug 2017 18:24:01
Grumpy. That is not the point. According to the latest from The Telegraph, it is in danger of collapse. A deal was apparently agreed for 45 mill up front. Everyone happy, then Everton come back and want to renegotiate. As I said earlier and previous, Everton just cannot help themselves at times. It is a wonder they have any feet left to stand on with all those bullet wounds.

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08 Aug 2017 19:00:13
Dont you mean the rags can't help themselves? Nobody knows what's happening behimd the scenes just make assumptions on what we read. Every1 should just chill out and let the club do what they think is best.

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08 Aug 2017 19:40:58
Or how about this scenario Grumpy old chap et al! We continue to dither (having apparently put that behind us only to resurrect) , that other lot sell Coutino for a mega fee, then jump in and pay Swansea the 50. That will sit well, will it.

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08 Aug 2017 20:01:59
But Bill the point is that we have had the best ever transfer window in our history and there are people who are still not happy. If the Sigi deal collapses then it is still our best ever transfer window. No one except Swansea and a few members on here believe he is worth the £50m asking price so why worry if we do not get him?

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09 Aug 2017 18:08:21
The fact is yes we have had a great transfer window, but by the looks of it, it was down to the fact we new lukaku was leaving and had money, now we aren't sure if any of our players will be sold and how much for, is this why we won't commit to getting gilfi over the line, we've been told there will be money to spend, but have said we have only spent 7 million, so next year when we don't have a big name to sell, how much money for transfers will we have then, so mori hasn't so far put any cash in it's all been generated from the sale of lukaku. i'm very happy with what we have done, but as we have all seen we are still lacking up front.

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08 Aug 2017 17:00:52
Can't see Sigurdsson coming now, we have had plenty of time to do the deal, I think Everton have ran out of money until the sale for Barkley and MaCarthy goes through.

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08 Aug 2017 17:25:20
Think we may be labelled as miserable gits but I somewhat sympathise with your position on this. If the 40 plus 5 bid was true literally over a week ago and it was rejected, all it would take would be to meet their 50 and so bring in Koemans main target for the summer. It would appear that the old Everton in the shape of our Bill and his sidekick have resurfaced.

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08 Aug 2017 17:28:58
a great big massive

YAWN.

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08 Aug 2017 17:56:35
Negative, Negative, Negative, c'mon think POSITIVE, window going really well so far and more transfers coming, give it time cheer up, GuernseyBlue.

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08 Aug 2017 17:58:09
Put your hand over your mouth.

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08 Aug 2017 18:05:55
Makes me wonder sometimes why you guy's support Everton when all you can do is whinge, whinge, and then whinge some more.

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08 Aug 2017 18:20:26
Agree Grumpy mate it all gets tedious in the end, this is our best window ever, and more to come cheers, GuernseyBlue.

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08 Aug 2017 18:25:52
Haha that's coming from a grumpy toffee as well, cheer up we'll soon be 5 games in and bottom of the league 🙈.

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08 Aug 2017 19:54:26
I may be grumpy Bjarkster007 but I'm never negative.

In fact I am so positive I will have a wager with you.

If we are BOTTOM of the league after 5 games I will donate £100 to Everton in the community in your name. If on the other hand we are not Bottom then you donate £100 in my name.

Lets see how negative you really are or if you are all gob.

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08 Aug 2017 20:00:37
Regarding how much money we have or don't have for transfers, surely the cost of the new stadium counts to add FFP? If that's the case then we've already committed to a huge amount of expenditure and do need to balance the books to an extent on transfers?

I personally think we've had a very good window both for the first team and U23s etc, although I agree we could ideally do with a CB and target man. But that said the new stadium should absolutely be a priority for the long term growth and stability of the Club.

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{Ed002's Note - The stadium costs and certain other spending are excluded. But right now there are no significant stadium costs.}

08 Aug 2017 21:08:00
Thanks Ed.

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10 Aug 2017 06:15:17
I wasn't trying to be negative grumpy pal it was just banter, looking forward to turning a couple of the big boys over actually.

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10 Aug 2017 06:19:53
Just to explain grumpy, you was telling someone to stop being negative and to think positive. I said that because your name is grumpy, so not all gob think it just came over wrong pal.

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08 Aug 2017 10:30:01
Contract Dave seen flying to Amsterdam. we after anyone else from the everdivise eds?

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{Ed025's Note - im not sure mate..

08 Aug 2017 20:34:13
Reported in Sweden we have snagged the young Ajax number 9.

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08 Aug 2017 15:38:36
Evryone is concentrating on the Sig transfer that very little seems to be said about what to me is 100% vital and that is a 20+ a season striker .
RK must have something in the pipe line but what is anyone's guess .
Without one WE WILL STRUGGLE with one it will still be difficult for the first month because while we have done brilliantly in the market so far the one we needed most of any was this 20+ man a season .
Pickford and Keane as well as Sandro great signings but a jigsaw looks nothing if not complete .
Yes I know I am another negative fan you keep going on about but with the horrendous start we have a settled side in now would have been perfect but I am just praying we get a centre forward in for what Everton have always been famous for .
I hope they not wasting any more time on Giroud he never had any interest in coming to us.

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08 Aug 2017 16:04:50
That's not a negative post mate just stating the fact that we are in dire need of a striker, good post 100% correct 😄.

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08 Aug 2017 16:05:15
how do you know sandro isn't a 20 goal a season striker?

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08 Aug 2017 16:06:14
I don't think we will struggle. We don't need a 20 goal a season striker, we need the team to be better collectively at scoring. This point has been made over and over again. It was all about 1 guy last season so this year RK wants to share the goal scoring responsibilities throughout the team. That'll make it harder to defend against and more productive away from home.

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08 Aug 2017 16:18:23
How many strikers got 20+ in prem last season 3 I think and one of them was ours so who do you suggest.

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08 Aug 2017 17:15:03
I tried saying this a few days back. I understand why fans want sig at the club, he's a high quality player that will undoubtedly improve us, but a goal scorer is more important. There's really no point in controlling a game from midfield if we struggle to score. i'm very hopeful that Sandro will be a success and Calvert-Lewin may even step up this year and score a few, but if they dont, we have to wait til Jan to rectify the problem. I think its something we should focus on much more than trying to complete Sig.

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08 Aug 2017 17:25:03
As Truebluemetz79 states the only strikers consistently scoring 20+ over the last 3 season are Kane and Aguero and I can't see us putting a bid in for either of them. Sanchez is the next option but can't see that happening either. Wishful thinking trebor I am affriad.

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08 Aug 2017 17:58:34
Err didn't lukaku score 19 the season before and we finished 11th. It is not all about him and his goals. We have qualified for Europe enough times in the last 10 years without a 20 goal a season striker yet some of you think it is the holy grail.

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08 Aug 2017 18:42:34
Also I hate to say it but the stats don't lie Liverpool got top 4 and no one got near 20 prem goals for them.

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08 Aug 2017 19:04:05
I think some of you are missing the point, it's not necessarily saying we need a 20 goal a season striker, just a striker who will score a decent amount. How many did the rest of our players score last season? We just cannot allow a season where our highest scorer is on 6 goals. Its ok saying koeman wants to spread the goals out around the team but wanting it and it actually happening is another matter. We need a proven striker and anyone saying different is just being stubborn for the sake of arguing with posts on here.

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08 Aug 2017 15:29:29
Hi Ed do you think the board will hear koemans plea and deliver the players he wants?

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{Ed001's Note - they are certainly trying to do so.}

08 Aug 2017 16:46:52
Is giroud dead now mate? Surely we moved on now after latest comments.

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{Ed025's Note - its not looking good jipster...so we move on to the next target mate..

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08 Aug 2017 01:01:15
Why are people so concerned about who is going to score the 24 goals Lukaku got last season, it's about can we score more goals than we did last season and I think yes even as it stands With current squad.

16/ 17 season prem league scorers

Lukaku 24
Barkley 5
Mirallas 4
Coleman 4
Own goals 4
Jagielka 3
Velencia 3
Baines 2
Barry 2
Davies 2
Schneiderlin 1
Williams 1
Bolasie 1
McCarthy 1
Gana 1
Calvert lewin 1
Lookman 1
Pennington 1

When you look at that you then start to see why replacing the 24 goals Lukaku scored is not the issue it's about more goals from others, I'm convinced there are 3 or 4 players that will get double figures, even if ten of those players get 1 more than last year that's 10 goals without even putting Rooney, Sandro and Klassen in the mix.

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08 Aug 2017 07:42:16
I’m not sure about 3 or 4 getting double figures. But looking at those figures there isn’t much required to improve on them. The most important thing is we played to Lukaku’s strengths last season so will be playing to different strengths this season. That will of course be in a way that brings more players into positions to score therefore allowing everyone to improve their goal tally.

If/ when we get Sigurdsson that will also add a good amount of goals too. I wouldn’t be surprised if he took over penalty responsibility too. Although there’s no reason I can see to take it from Baines.

I’m not worried where the goals will come from. There’s clearly enough quality there to create and convert chances. Plus we’re not done in the transfer window yet.

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08 Aug 2017 09:39:57
How about a cheeky punt for Owen Golas got to be better than some of the players we've been associated with.

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08 Aug 2017 09:47:45
Let's not get too hung up on replacing Lukakus goals, winning games is more important and that involves improvement in all areas.

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08 Aug 2017 10:47:58
It's not about replacing his goals but we are desperate for a 9 in terms of the way we play. Against Sevilla the. All kept being turned over because nobody was capable of holding it up and bringing others in. Lukaku was not great at this either but had pace to stretch teams to make space between oppositions defenses and midfields. So we either need a target man or a Vardy type.

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