08 Mar 2015 18:43:17
hi ed heard martinez saying that the two games leicester away opening game of the season and arsenal at home put us on the back foot for the rest of the season oh my god 36 games were still to play and the excuses were begining in earnest we had no pre season as mr m I will call him was in the usa promoting his own self ego giving his views on the world cup why not take the players out there like the seasons before under dm if he was already there wigan used to play european or scandanavian teams pre season we played tranmere paderborn and also used tranmere for a pre season game against celta vigo I think didn't kenwright fancy paying the elictric bill for the little kids to go to goodison the whole thing has been a shambolic mess from top to bottom and its the fans who feel the humiliation of the situation not the phoneys in charge upwards and onwards coyb
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08 Mar 2015 19:20:02
just looking at the rest of our fixtures.
Newc'le H 1 point
QPR A 0 -
South'n H 1 -
Swans A 0 -
Burnley H 3 -
Man U H 0 -
Villa A 0 -
Sun'd H 1 -
West H A 0 -
Spurs H 1 -
total 35 points for the season.
Anybody think this enough to keep us up?
if we don't get 3 against Burnley we are gone
08 Mar 2015 21:30:51
Do you have next weekends lottery numbers as your so good at predicting?
08 Mar 2015 21:44:46
If you seriously think that's what we will get points wise then it's a proper defeatist attitude.I'd have thought we will win a majority of them.
08 Mar 2015 22:39:43
Newcastle, burnley, Sunderland at home and qpr n villa I'd expect more than 5 points
09 Mar 2015 09:48:08
try this
Newc'le H - we get beat - Martinez sacked
New Manager installed immediately
QPR A we win 2-0 because they are utter garbage
South'n we win 2-1
Swans A we win 2-0
Burnley H we win 3-1
Man U H we win 5-4
Villa A we win 2-1
Sun'd H we win 7-1
West H A we win 2-0
Spurs H you can have this one Spuds - you win 1-0
Anyone want the lottery numbers let me know
08 Mar 2015 19:10:19
So Roberto Martinez believes we are about to 'explode into success'.
All this as we blues fans sit terrified in the back of his own European Airbus as it starts screaming down to earth.
Hope he throttles up soon as we are about to crash and burn.
Brace. brace. brace!
08 Mar 2015 17:27:58
Watched Hibs today managed by Alan Stubbbs. Great attacking football by his team . Did well with the reserves last season b4 he left for Hibs?? He could be worth a gamble as our next manager with Big Dunc as his no two. I'd rather have De Boer but I don't think we could afford him? What does everyone think?
{Ed025's Note - stubbsy has done well lemur, it might be a bit early in his management career for a club as big as everton though, but he cant do any worse than the fraud mate..
09 Mar 2015 08:46:10
Whilst I appreciate he has done a good job and have often posted against the old player being thrown in, next we will have the Andy Gray for manager vote, but seriously this is a massive ship to sail and the captain has to be up to it, already a the man at the helm touted as a top future manager and has been linked with Barca etc is now steering us into stormy seas and likely to run us aground!
08 mar 2015 17:21:56
everyone mentions ducan taking over but not unsworth who manged preston twice as caretaker
{Ed025's Note - i remember unsworth leaving everton for villa bretto, he thought that villa park was just outside warrington, and his geography is better than his management mate..
08 Mar 2015 18:14:05
ed he went to west ham and then villa for a day and then back to everton
08 Mar 2015 13:55:49
Watching the Villa game yesterday and thinking how they have been transformed with a change of manager!
09 Mar 2015 09:49:23
they look like they are up for it big time mate, I like Villa myself and Tim Sherwood looks a good fit
09 Mar 2015 18:36:53
Tim Sherwood and Tony Pulis. Two missed opportunities
08 Mar 2015 13:54:39
watching 1985 cup game v Ipswich this morning, bought back so many memories of the great playing style we had then, how Kendall had moulded the players into that regime. how we could do with sheeds or a Bracewell again, Barry is not fit to lace Reidy's boots, Lukaku could learn so much watching Gray and Sharp, Roberto to could learn so much about the british game from this team and the way they passed it all over the park not just infront of our own box!
08 Mar 2015 16:41:14
Fully agree with you wakka, Barkley could do with watching Bracewell to see how a proper number 10 plays, as could Lukaku with Gray to learn how an Everton number 9 plays.
The whole team could also learn about proper indomitable team spirit and never, ever giving up no matter how many chances you miss or penalties get turned down.
But also our fans could maybe learn how to create a ferocious atmosphere at the Old Lady again.
And as for Sheeds twice taken free kick, well that was just magical.
08 Mar 2015 22:42:18
It's fair to say that barkley has been poor but he needs to played as a number 10 first
08 Mar 2015 22:43:48
By the way give fans an ounce to. Shout about and they will you can't get up for that backwards tripe we do its soul destroying
08 Mar 2015 12:20:37
I posted months ago about spending last winter in Spain(Oct till March)
Local bar round the corner in Campoverdi,
live games all the time, good food, cheap vino, a bunch of local blues to drink with & the sun shining all the time.
I think this could have been the best 6 months of my life.
AND THEN.
we have this winter at home, crap weather, but this Everton team performances are worse.
It's like I'm being punished & paying penance for having such a good time.
I don't even want to watch our games now, so depressing, even if we score first, you know we won't win.
Mr.Bean just talking complete rubbish before & after ever game. Kenwright gone missing,
no new investor would buy this club, no new ground (don't think there ever was) & what
new players would come under this idiot & his system of playing?
I'm off for my Sunday roast lunch now, bottle of Chablis & a few cigars.
Afternoon on the settee, fall asleep & dream of better days.
08 Mar 2015 11:13:52
I would love Roberto to prove us all wrong and turn things around. I believe he has two games to save his job, kiev & Newcastle. If we are still in the mire then it's time to let our feet do the talking!
Im trying to be positive and think even Winston Churchill had a blip. I would like to see lukaku and Kone upfront to give lukaku more presence in the box. Two wingers (not barkley, naismith) and macarthy and Gibson in the middle.
Roll on Thursday!!
08 Mar 2015 11:36:23
Spot on mate, best post on here for ages, personally I would play Mirallas(Left) & Atsu(Right) as they have the pace to destroy any team.
08 Mar 2015 11:47:47
No matter who is in charge I hope we do well, and if it's him. Then I'll be the first to put my hand up. But I think it will now take a lot to win the fans back, and one season won't do it, as the risk of the next poor season will always hang over us.
He hasn't done enough with the youth to give us confidence that we are just experiencing a 'changing of the guard' year from old to new, as we can't even say that we have blooded any youngsters. It took Garbutt 30 games to get a run, Barkley has gone backwards, we are no closer to having competition for RB, CF, the 2 CB's and natural wingers. The only place we have real competition is in the holding midfielder roles, and he keeps picking Barry over the players who show any form like Besic.
There have been managers that have copped more flack and been sacked for significantly better performances and results than what he is dishing up. But let's face it, he will be there come August. I just hope he is still in the Premier League.
08 Mar 2015 13:11:20
Agreed when we were at our best. 2 wingers plus Baines and Coleman running on. It gave us width and opened the pitch up gave us space in the middle and we destroyed teams. We play to narrow to slow and with fear. Also no passion and that should be a given . Also of they don't wanna play for the fraud. Play for us and the badge. Then we will remember the names on the back for the right reasons
08 Mar 2015 13:20:29
if I was to start a team it would be
joel
coleman jags stones baines/garbutt
lennon besic mccarthy mirallas
naismith
rom
08 Mar 2015 05:36:21
The biggest issue surrounding the performance culture of the team, and why the fans are now on RM's back is the setting if standards. While it is supportive, not acknowledging when we have simply been not good enough and always to looking to outside factors to blame simply tells the team that nothing needs to change, and whatever you did today (which was not good enough to win) is in fact good enough. So as a player, why would I change what I am doing, the boss is happy, why would we rally, it is just luck going against us. Take away all the selection issues, tactics etc etc, the players on the field are better than their league position and performances, but only when they are matching the intensity of their competition, and as fans I don't think we have aren't that. What worries me the most is that all the solutions RM keeps referring to are based on fortune and outside factors, which in any business is a scary sign. In any business strategy I have ever seen, it never says, "keep doing what you're doing and hope for some luck"
{Ed025's Note - thats why he is a fraud bra boy, talks a really good game but cant get the players to produce..
08 Mar 2015 09:08:11
Martinez won successive relegation battles as manager with Wigan Athletic in 2010, 2011 and 2012 before they went down in 2013, days after winning the FA Cup.
"Yes, yes, but I've been down with 36 points and it's very tough to get 36 points in this league, " Martinez said. He was also asked if he thought his style was too pass heavy which slowed us down, his reply was never you can never have to much passing. The point of this is, knowing those stats why the heck did Bill Kenwright hire the man. Those stats indicate that last season was a blip and this season is the norm under Martinez leadership. The bloke even acknowledges he is used to it for gods sake. Bill Kenwright will never be forgiven as the man who hired the man responsible for taking this great club down in over 60 years should it happen. And even if we do not go down Bill has to get rid, because from the stats above we are in for this every season.
08 Mar 2015 10:00:41
Great post DM. It would seem that 36pts is 'tough' this season and that in itself tells us everything we need to know. He makes it sound like reaching this magic number is an achievement. Which it is if done before Xmas.
08 Mar 2015 11:17:21
DM. Agreed. He has managed to build a myth around his management for the last 5 years where survival meant success! Again, a sub-standard level of success to aim for. When momentum is positive, he took the credit and obviously the players were riding the high of having a new manager with a more expressive style. Maybe they felt a bit unshackled. But this season was his and his alone. Only he could build the momentum from his planning, his training, his culture. And you can see the results. It just scares me to think that he is genuinely happy with th performances, and worse, if he doesn't actually think that, then he is just saying it because he thinks that's what we want to hear.
08 Mar 2015 11:23:40
BTW Ed, I am not sure he does talk a great game. If he did, we wouldn't be giving him the lashing we currently are, because we'd be eating up all the spin he comes out with.
It would be great to know if anyone out there is a supporter and does buy into what he is saying?
07 Mar 2015 15:10:19
Question for Ed:
If the worst was to happen over the next couple of games i.e we were to loose to Kiev & Newcastle our board would surely have to wake up (wouldn't they?)
Who would you like to be brought in?
My choice's would be:
F D Boer - although no Prem experience
S McClaren - seems like he's back to his best
D Ferguson - I'm sure any believer dreams he'd do a great job.
However, and I'll prob take some stick for this but right now I'd 100% take Eddie Howe over the fraud.
{Ed025's Note - my personal choice would be peter reid until the end of the season baz, knows the club inside out and has the experience..
08 Mar 2015 09:10:09
Baz29 sorry for the levity in advance but by D Ferguson I hope to NAAFI Biscuits you mean Duncan and not Darren.
08 Mar 2015 09:51:16
Obviously Duncan, & I would never argue with Duncan's mum 👍
07 Mar 2015 21:07:45
When are we going to get some sort of statmentment from our fast asleep board, sleepwalking into a relegation nightmare, yet still not one word to either reasure, or at least explain their thinking, are they really so stupid as to risk missing out on the new tv deal, the present deal is the only reason we have new found solvancy.