Everton Banter Archive January 09 2017

09 Jan 2017 21:35:25
There is a lot of Blue emotion going on at the moment. It is quite strange really. Some Blues are saying Koeman has not got what it takes. Others are blaming Kenright and the board. Some blaming Martinez (I am in this camp. but for this post it is irrelevant) . The thing is, I can understand some fans frustrations. It does appear that some clubs have players lined up, do the deal and the players are announced. Maybe our targets have changed? Maybe we are aiming at a higher calibre of player? But maybe Walsh has still not got his plans in place? Whatever the reasons, we all want the same thing. I have seen some disturbing bickering on here at a time when we all need to stick together. Our red "friends" must be loving all this bickering, especially when they are flying. Can I ask you all to take a deep intake of breath, count to 10, (no make that 20) and remember that we all want the same thing. I can guarantee that every single poster on here (the Arsenal Dagenham Gunner excepted) wants the same thing. with the same passion as the next Blue. Things are happening guys. they are just not happening as quickly as we want. but I will give Niasse as an example of a rushed signing and say no more!

{Ed025's Note - good post that degsy..

09 Jan 2017 22:13:36
We signed Niasse on the last day of the window as well Degsy. So far the two examples put on here are Niasse and Sissoko and both were last minute deals. One signed and the other one thankfully didn't go through. I don't want panic buys because we waited too long or dithered. I want the targets Koeman has already spoken about and not the rushed last minute deal that is going to waste money.

I am hopeful we will and won't go into a blind panic just yet but if the MEN is right and Schneiderlin did pass a medical on Friday and we are now coming to Tuesday and no deal has been struck it adds fuel to the fire. I can't even remember when that situation has ever happened before.

09 Jan 2017 22:20:28
Ed is it possible to put another link on the page along with everton rumours and everton banter?
Can we have everton moaners too?
Should satisfy a few on here.

{Ed025's Note - we do smit, its called "other posts" mate, all moaning posts should go there but sometimes other eds might answer the posts and i cant control that..

10 Jan 2017 07:34:52
Ed025 I wondered why all my posts disappeared onto that page! Now I know. Well I just think that's disgraceful and if you think I am going to waste my time and energy typing things on here only for them to disappear into cyber space at the click of a switch from some "jobsworth" Ed who has nothing better to do than move my very important posts into some hidden away page on a 2nd rate website that has no value at all with real fans and is self important and never gives a balanced view etc etc etc only joking mate!

{Ed001's Note - damn I got my hopes up then you were being serious and was about to move the thread to the others page just to wind you up! ;-)
Seriously speaking, the idea is just to keep the banter page from descending into bickering and infighting, and to allow it to stay more lighthearted and fun. The others page can be more loose, to allow people to have a proper discussion, without it making things tetchy on here.}

10 Jan 2017 08:37:13
Here here

10 Jan 2017 08:48:56
Look above at my post about bickering Ed. I know I have done my fair share in the past but I wanted people to stand back and realise we all want the same thing. success for our beloved club. yet we are in danger of completely missing the point and forgetting that to make a "club" . it means bringing a lot of like minded people together. The pressure and stress we suffer makes us fight against each other at times because of differing views on how we achieve the success we crave. At that point we need to take a deep breath and start again. Things could be a lot worst. we could all support Liverpool!

10 Jan 2017 12:16:04
You are completely missing the point Degsy. People are not bickering against each other they are having an opinion on the club.

Me personally, I think we have moved on brilliantly over the past year and think we will get even stronger. I've said it more than anyone on here how positive things are looking for our club.

My only concern is our transfer dealings that was highlighted by one of the closest people to them in our Manager. If you or any fan raised the concern it wouldn't bother me. The fact it is Koeman makes me believe there isn't something right.

You can have a go saying he isn't professional or whatever but the fact is he is not happy with how they are going.

Maybe if he was moaning about lack of goal scoring midfielders you take more notice of him? (only joking)

By the way there isn't a club, business or household were everyone is like-minded! How boring would that be!

09 Jan 2017 19:32:27
Hi eds. Can anyone shed some light on why it takes or seems to take forever for the blues to sign a player? Do we do something different to everyone else? Leicester were a, interested b, signed that Ndidi fella and then c, made his debut in the cup game on Saturday all in the space of 2 days. I just don't get it?

{Ed001's Note - they had the deal lined up ready to transfer paperwork long before the window opened.}

09 Jan 2017 20:53:19
So Ed001 that doesn't answer AB Toffee's query or if Leicester (and others) can do that, why is it that we appear to dither. Just a query, not a dig. I trust this new regime will get it all right.

{Ed001's Note - because you don't have any deals set up and you are chasing players that are hanging on to see if they can get a Champions League team. Every deal is different, you can't compare.}

09 Jan 2017 21:14:57
Fair enough.

09 Jan 2017 19:20:13
if farhead thinks joses valuations are high then don't buy let's look elsewhere

09 Jan 2017 13:53:07
I can't believe how impatient everyone is being. I don't think I've ever seen a club make four or five signings the first week of January. Do people want 11 Niasses in the team?

I'd rather the money was spent correctly rather than go mental on average players like Sissoko. While I doubt we have £100m spare I'm sure there's money in the pot for the right player.

While I don't understand a lot about how transfers work and the money in football. I do know that a big contract is another large outlay that most people don't factor into the cost of a player. Bear in mind (if reports are to be believed) we could be paying Niasse and Kone £50k each per week to play in the u23s. A few more of them and Moshiri's billion will be stretched to cover our losses.

09 Jan 2017 14:37:09
Couldn't agree more Blue Tommy

09 Jan 2017 14:38:17
I'd be happy with two further quality signings in January and an early exit for Senegal.

09 Jan 2017 14:52:05
Didn't we go mental and try to sign Sissoko on the last day of the summer window?

09 Jan 2017 15:02:26
We did Wakka. Aren't you glad we missed out on him now? Disrespectful, overrated and overpriced.

09 Jan 2017 15:12:24
Yes, wakka. Think that's the point Blue Tommy is trying to make.

09 Jan 2017 15:55:16
listen guys one thing you learn to be with Everton is patient, I'm sure everything's in hand and we will get the right players at the right price eventually.
Just not Sissoko!

09 Jan 2017 18:16:41
Isn't this Sissoko the same one as the swap deal with Barkley?

09 Jan 2017 21:29:48
Bad example Wakka. We panicked as we ran out of time and ended up going for Sissoko. He ended up using us and there was no time to do other deals.

I'm hoping we've done our homework this time and we get these deals done. Otherwise we will end up with a rather unhappy manager and may end up this summer after a new one again. I don't think Koeman has a lot of forgiveness in him.

09 Jan 2017 22:06:49
Wakka, my reading of Blue Tommy's post is that he's extremely patient and that's what he's getting at. When he says only sign players that we need.

10 Jan 2017 08:56:23
Apparently, more Everton fans are impatient than patient judging by the agree/ disagree on my original post. They are probably the same lads who only got a season ticket when Moshiri joined, flew the 'Bill Out' banner and boo Barkley's every touch. I love being a blue but sometimes I'm embarrassed by the behaviour of some of our so called fans.

10 Jan 2017 11:08:51
I also agree with that Blue Tommy.

09 Jan 2017 12:18:40
Disappointed like everyone else to go out at this stage of the Cup, but we all need to take a breath before the knee-jerk reaction of demanding signings now. cannot believe that RK is upset that Walsh hasn't delivered in this Transfer Window yet when it was only 7/ 8 days old!

In all likelyhood 7th is best we can hope for in the league - it may/ may not get Europa Lgue footy for next year. so blowing a load of dough right now might be unwise (remember the "get Niasse in" posts 12 months back) . not many top players available in January - none of the players being linked excite me tbh. there will be many more squad players from the very top teams available in the summer. but to lump money on good/ average players this month isn't the way to go IMO.

All the teams who win anyhting have a top keeper. that should be our priority (prob in summer) maybe later in the month if the RS see off the Saints in Lgue Cup a massive Forster may have better chance.

09 Jan 2017 13:31:00
Agree BB4

09 Jan 2017 09:10:32
Watched the Spurs match yesterday was impressed that most of their youth players that was playing where for the most a cohesive unit that moved the ball and kept it when needed. Later on the commenters said that this was down to all the teams from under 23s right down to the youngest team plays the way Tottenham first team play from set up to set pieces. This seams to make sence for developing youth maybe this way you don't have to send players out on loan as much. Everton has some great young talent that we never seam to get the best out of as if they do make the first team they struggle to adapt to the higher standeds of play or tactically they don't fit in the position they are played in this then has a knock on effect to the young player and maybe holds him back. Now I'm not saying that how our youth teams are run is not good as we are producing some great players it was just somthing that I had never thought of that made sense why not get our players playing how the first team plays so if and when they are ready/ needed they won't be out of their depth and have a load of players that suposedley was the next big thing to 3 years later we let go because they never reached their potential. Having money (like we now have) is great and is how you survive and challenge for trophies but we also need to bring players through not saying that we would end up like United did with the class of 92 but that being said getting youth to understand what is wanted/ needed of them so that when a established player is out injured we won't be oh crap we only got the kids and then the established player will also have to work hard to get their place back rather then just walk straight back in. Sorry if I went on a bit

09 Jan 2017 10:05:30
To be fair our youth set up is fantastic and we have produced high quality players for a number of years.

David Unsworth and the rest have done wonders there and are probably the most sought after youth coach's there are in the business. If you want any more proof take a look at what Unsy done against Norwich last year with a few kids.

We also do the same as Spurs and pay big money now for young players at other clubs. Just like Alli, Noughton, Walker, Rose and the rest they bought. It's not necessarily their youth set up and more they buy other clubs good work.

09 Jan 2017 15:43:50
I agree we've had some really exciting kids come through. Plus finch farm has a huge reputation we sign them easier these days. We have a huge amount out on loan as well. Great work

08 Jan 2017 23:43:43
Can someone please let me know what koeman has apparently said/ done to make him. public enemy no 1/ sacked or whatever. I genuinely haven't seen anything and am quite confused by it all

09 Jan 2017 00:12:35
He's basically told of his frustration of not getting players in quickly. Told a few home truths and the majority of fans who think we are a top 4 team that wins trophies on a regular basis, want him sacked for being crap. It's beggars belief sometimes. eveyone is entitled to their opinion but some stuff on here is plain idiotic

{Ed001's Note - I doubt it is the majority, it is just a very vocal minority mate.}

09 Jan 2017 07:01:33
We were in lower Bullens on sat can someone tell me why some of the fans are still taking it out on Barkley it's not just him they were all quiet. There was no spark there

09 Jan 2017 10:38:40
I really feel sorry for Barkley I Sutton in the lower gladys and I'm fed up arguing with people who do nothing but abuse the lad and unfortunately if it continues he will have to leave to fulfill his potential those same fans will then call him a traitor and a Judas some Evertonions are embarrassing and wouldn't surprise me if it's the same fans who want Koeman sacked.

what I love more than anything is they all say the same thing and when you argue they shout "well you might be happy with a mediocre Team but I'm not" ha ha I'm not happy with it but I will support our players n manager until the day I die.