Everton Discussion posts

23 Apr 2024 14:57:40
Of the potential clubs that are going down this season are there any players you would want from them.
Sheff Utd
Burnley
Luton
Forest.

22 Apr 2024 22:35:29
Consensus on this site, and mine now, seems to be to bring in a new manager for next season. Anyone got thoughts on who they realistically would like to see here. Must admit, I can't see who would want to take on what is likely to be a massive challenge over the summer.

{Ed025's Note - its a tough one that TBT and it would depend if they would take the job in the first place, i think Potter would be a good choice myself, but if not would like us to take a chance on an up and coming young manager from the championship mate..

22 Apr 2024 23:09:25
Realistically it will be Dyche next season - there is no money at the club and taking loans out to survive week by week so can’t imagine we’ll sack Dyche.

If by some miracle we are looking for a new manager then Potter, Michael Carrick or Lee Carsley would potentially be realistic targets for us - Kieran McKenna would also be a good shout but only if Ipswich fail to get promotion.

22 Apr 2024 23:51:57
Thanks Ed. I would probably go with your second choice and someone who knows the players from the lower divisions. It's where we're going to be shopping I guess.

{Ed025's Note - it does look that way TBT..

23 Apr 2024 09:00:40
Hope it is players from lower leagues matey, some gems down there and lads that actually want to play for us, breath of fresh air from the tripe served up by our so called superstars.

23 Apr 2024 10:27:59
Sheaf from Cov for me GB.

23 Apr 2024 12:25:11
Yep he would be one I d pick as well mate, good shout.

23 Apr 2024 15:09:44
Managers have massive egos, and plenty will be up for taking us on. As long as we are still a Premiership team.

22 Apr 2024 20:49:47
I honestly have no idea why people are worried. My god we are an awful team and we struggle to put 2 forward passes together. But there is no way Forest and Luton are going to win 2 games. I'm not positive about us like GB is, I just can't see either of those teams getting the points they need. Yesterday's win is the one that has kept us up I would say.

{Ed025's Note - not quite dan but its gone a long way to securing it mate..

22 Apr 2024 21:04:22
I might be wrong, I just can't see the others picking up enough points.

{Ed025's Note - hopefully not dan..

22 Apr 2024 21:12:00
We won't be so lucky next season so we better get our act together.

22 Apr 2024 21:08:56
Avoid defeat to Luton and should do for us imo.

22 Apr 2024 21:14:28
Agree mate, next season could define our future.

23 Apr 2024 15:11:00
Well Luton could beat us, so there's one win.

22 Apr 2024 20:40:48
Reading the mighty Liverpool have only won once in the last 6 visits to Goodison gives me hope COYB.

23 Apr 2024 06:18:59
Love it GB. You are the silver lining around this cloud we are under.

I’m not going to rush out and put my mortgage on a blue win nevertheless.

22 Apr 2024 09:48:20
Whilst I do feel for Forest, for Clattenburg - a man who has an entire merseyside derby named in his honour for such poor refereeing and then pretty much avoided us like the plague for years after - for him to be the one questioning a ref whose had a bad day seems a little rich. Wind your neck in pal springs to mind.

22 Apr 2024 17:47:53
I certainly don’t feel anything for Forest, how many bad decisions from VAR and bad reffing this season have we had, needs must mate.

{Ed025's Note - im happy for us of course GB but i cant help feeling sorry for Forest mate, its no fun to be on the receiving end of this corrupt Premier League and its cohorts at the PGMOL....as well we know..

22 Apr 2024 19:30:33
Very true Ed. It's the bigger picture for me.

For the good of the game a lot needs changing.

{Ed025's Note - it really does Mocker mate..

22 Apr 2024 20:42:32
VAR needs binning that’s for sure.

{Ed025's Note - amen to that GB..

21 Apr 2024 21:25:33
So, I am not a huge fan of Dyche's methods. Or the way he sets his teams up to play. But really, with the squad he inherited, and the lack of funds at his disposal, what would we have accepted as a decent result this year? Without points deducted, we would have been safe 2 games ago. Would anyone have acceoted that at the begining of the season? Just throwing it out there.

{Ed025's Note - i know what you are saying TBT but if you are happy to watch that dross every game mate you are in the minority, this is Everton, Nil Satis Nisi Optimum..

21 Apr 2024 22:53:07
It’s going to get worse before it gets better as well given we will need to sell Branthwaite and Onana to balance the books.

21 Apr 2024 23:39:01
The football is crap. We got a fluke against Burnley, and got away with murder today. Anyone who thinks this guy is a good manager is deluded. I mean he plays Young every week, that’s how bad he is.

22 Apr 2024 06:55:17
As I stated above, I am no fan of Dyche, but he has inherited a very poor squad of players. Not sure who could get a tune out of that lot.

21 Apr 2024 22:43:24
Absolutely agree with you Ed.
What I am struggling to get my head around is, would another manager be able to get more out of what I think is a very very poor group of players. Strength is probably goalkeeper and 2 centre halves. Would we be half way up the league and playing good football wirh another manager with these players.

{Ed025's Note - the squad is very poor TBT but the players are still better than what they are showing at the moment mate, its all about coaching and if these mainly international players cant pass a ball 10 yards then something is wrong, for me its about basics and motivation and i dont see any of that in this team, so yes i believe a new manager could do better..

22 Apr 2024 07:54:25
Be a really interesting scenario to see a good manager coach this lot. I have my doubts we would be much better than we currently are, but agree that change needs to be made at the end of the season.
Just not sure what manager would want ruin their reputation coming into this club at the moment.

22 Apr 2024 07:57:20
What worries me is, if we manage to stay up, someone might think he's done a good job and keep him on.

22 Apr 2024 08:29:45
That’s my worry Nick.

22 Apr 2024 09:18:36
If he keeps us up then there is a argument that he has done a decent job under tough circumstances.

Problem is next season in theory we will be weaker as a squad with departures and no funds, stronger teams coming up from EFL.

I don't think Dyche goes in the summer and if doesn't expect pretty much the same.

All for a change and reset as what we need but who takes us forward and where is the money coming from to do so?

22 Apr 2024 12:43:51
Mocker, I think there comes a time when the players decide how they want to play rather than the manager. He picks them yes, but if they really want to stay Premier League players, they know what to do and, that's step up to the mark and give everything they have. I don't believe Dyche gets the best out of our players. He's lost their faith.

23 Apr 2024 08:34:29
I totally agree with you Nick that Dyche isn't getting the full potential out of the players.

We have a very much mixed bag of a squad. We have little pace especially wide, lack creativity throughout the team and don't have a set pieces special-ist.

All for a change but don't see it happening nor do I see a potter getting much out of this squad and we need investment which we don't have nor much wiggle room.

Desperately need for some of the youngsters to step up but Dyche won't/ can't trust to step up in these circumstances.

Get survival, club make a decision in summer in regards manager, if still Dyche then him and his coaches need to get the balance right somehow.

21 Apr 2024 20:43:04
Bottom teams are so poor this season that 31 points could see safety.
This is all down to the premier league no longer being a competitive league due to all the money and advantages going to the Sly6.
Champions league is killing our league and getting worse.
Good news for us though, as we may just about have enough again to limp home before the last game of the season.

21 Apr 2024 19:55:55
Made up with the win but can't defend sd his tactics and decision to play young who should have cost us the game (I'd be fuming if we never got them decisions)
Let's just get safe and start AGAIN next season.

21 Apr 2024 21:58:24
Seriously? We’ve won a really important game against a rival in the relegation fight and we still have complaints.

We’ve also won two of our last 3 games and kept 2 clean sheets - as boring and dire as the football is can’t really complain with those 2 results or his tactics in those games.

Young had a decent game - made a couple of dubious challenges but wasn’t penalised for them so who cares? We all know he has an error in him yet today we’ve won and kept a clean sheet so doesn’t really matter about his performance.

The fact Dyche plays him is because of the crap recruitment and terrible injury list we have.

22 Apr 2024 08:39:04
Still have complaints. We were lucky against Burnley and lucky against Forest. But that’s ok because we won? No it’s not, the football is still bloody awful and we are still letting teams dominate us at home. And as for Young. How can you say he had a decent game, he was all over the place. Garner is a much better option than Young any day.
Oh and it matters about his or any other players performance. Trouble is some supporters have got use to having low expectations so to them Dyche is the messiah.

22 Apr 2024 09:02:43
I played football to win and would run through brick walls. The point of contact sport football/ rugby is to be better than the opposition in putting the ball over the line. Get beat 3-1 oooh but we played well, no you fing didn't you got beat.

22 Apr 2024 19:26:36
But it is possible to play well and lose. Trouble is we don’t even play well. But apparently that doesn’t matter.

21 Apr 2024 19:24:43
Ten mins to go ideal time with the space out ther to bring Danjumma on for Harrison who was poor second half!
Hopefully we will survive this season but the manager is not good enough!

21 Apr 2024 22:07:38
Serious question - how do you feel dyche isn’t good enough?

After 33 games last season we had 28pts

This season we’d have had 38pts if it wasn’t for the deductions so clearly he’s improved us.

The football isn’t attractive and it’s a tough watch - but that’s different to saying he’s not good enough as he is clearly performing better for us than what happened last season.

Also got to take in to account all the upheaval and stress that’s been around the club with the points deductions and saga of the ongoing takeover.

{Ed025's Note - i get what you are saying Dan and to be fair he has fulfilled his brief, but do we really want our future to be a borefest week in week out and saving ourselves by the skin of our teeth every year mate?, his style of play is archaic and even if we had better players with his style it wouldn,t change things at all mate..

21 Apr 2024 22:48:26
I definitely don’t want the borefest week in week out / however I can’t see how we change anything with the financial mess we are in.

Can’t see dyche being sacked as would have to pay him off - think we’ll stick with him till his contract ends - so as fans we’ve just got to put up with it. He did manage to get Burnley playing well and into Europe one season so not all boring.

Will be interesting to see who we get for the season we start in bramkey Moore - but think we have to check our expectations as to imagine we’ll have a top manager joining us.

22 Apr 2024 08:43:59
Why have fans got to put up with it? Do you really think this clown will change anything given another season, I don’t. We are a one dimensional team, easy to play against, because we have one tactic.
If it wasn’t for huge slices of luck in our last two games then we could very well be down already.
Keep him next season and we will get relegated.

22 Apr 2024 10:23:00
Fans have got to put up with it as there is no alternative - not sure if you’re not aware of the huge financial mess we are in and the real possibility of administration.

All the hiring and firing of managers has contributed to this mess.

We’re allegedly having to sell some of our players just to keep afloat.

New owners won’t remove the PSR issues.

Whilst I imagine a lot of us would prefer a different manager, one who plays attacking football, gives youth a chance and has a plan b and c - it is highly unlikely to happen until Dyche leaves but don’t think he’ll be sacked as there is no money to pay him off!

22 Apr 2024 13:32:40
Nobody has a clue what state we will be in until the new owners are announced. As for Dyche keep him and carry on playing hoof ball and it’s not just the players leaving the club will have to worry about.
You don’t need to spend fortunes to have a decent team. Look at Villa when Gerrard was in charge. Now they have a proper manager who knows how to get the best out of his players.
Brentford, Bournemouth and Brighton. Don’t spend fortunes but do well, and play some nice football.
So it is possible, you just have to have a manager who can do it. Dyche can’t.

{Ed025's Note - im with you Harlex..

22 Apr 2024 14:12:59
I’m not disputing that Dyche isn’t the manager to take us forward.

What I’m saying is there is no money, we’re having to take out loans to run the club day to day.

We’d all love a different manager with a different style of play however we can’t realistically afford to do it at the moment.

Even with new owners it won’t take away from the current issues we have we PSR and they can’t just throw money at the club - we’ve had that previously and that’s contributed to the mess we are in.

22 Apr 2024 14:17:15
We won 2-0. . Pickfords save, out of this World, standing in front of us 'COME ON'! Yeah borefest! I am a get the heck out of my way, coming through, type of football play fan! We do have good players and Dyche is a neanderthal that is stubborn in his ways but he should now see us through this season. I am off to lower league football next season or until someone buries Masters neck first next to Gormley!

21 Apr 2024 16:33:59
I know there is a lot in the Dyche out camp but looking at things outside the box and with a few beers in me.
Even with all the uncertainty over points deductions financial restrictions owners etc.
We've still got more points than we did last season ( without deductions) and we've got 5 games to go so I'm looking as that as a positive.
I know the football isn't pretty but I think with what he has at his disposal he's doing well. I know there's players we say should or shouldn't be playing but we know it's going to take time but we do need the stability for a couple of years and like when we had Moyes it took him a while to change us from a relegation team to a mid table side to being a top 6 side. Give him time or at least the night before he gets slated again.

21 Apr 2024 18:09:31
I was a keep Sean fan but I cannot condone why he keeps picking Young, we have both Garner and Godfrey both fit and better than Young, also his continued late subs change when games are pivotal and need replacements, game of opinions mate but he surely will go once we have assured our place in the Premiership for next season.

21 Apr 2024 19:05:12
The football is shocking and if it hadn’t been for some dodgy VAR decisions we could easily have lost.
This one win doesn’t hide the fact that he’s not very good.

{Ed025's Note - understatement of the year that Woburn..

21 Apr 2024 19:19:40
Really happy with this win today, and looking at the Teams around us and their run in one more win for us and we should be safe.

19 Apr 2024 23:02:20
Can’t see past a 0-2 Forest win.
There forward line is so much stronger than ours. : (.

20 Apr 2024 08:01:29
That's also my prediction, though we've had a few draws with them, that's what I'm hoping for, a draw, but like you, I think they'll beat us 0-2 ?.

20 Apr 2024 08:48:52
Gibbs White is going to run us ragged and we will do well to get a point.

20 Apr 2024 09:23:47
Awoniyi or woods up front that knob origi on the bench hope he doesn't comeback to haunt us ?.

20 Apr 2024 13:59:30
Looks like DCL will be fit so him and Beto up front to get a couple of goals 2-1 for me, massive game this.

20 Apr 2024 14:39:42
Origi always worries me. The jammy goit always nets a goal against us and usually at the death to ruin our day.

21 Apr 2024 06:18:25
I admire GB's optimism but do wonder where it comes from.

21 Apr 2024 08:13:05
We’ve got to go with 2 up front never mind all this defensive crap SD plays, it’s simple we need a win and we’re at home.

21 Apr 2024 09:57:54
No chance Dyche goes 2 up top. After Lutons defeat it's very much a game think both teams would take a draw.

Expect a very tense 0-0 1 nil either way.

21 Apr 2024 12:09:03
Would be well chuffed with a 1-0 Mocker mate.