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22 Jun 2022 12:19:49
Echo stating we have opened talks with Spurs for Winks now and he is keen on the move. Hopefully it isn't a high fee, 20m would be far too much for a player like him

Remains to be seen whether this will be part of a deal for Richarlison as that seems to have gone quiet and now Chelsea are showing the most interest.

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22 Jun 2022 13:36:01
Shows we haven't learnt from past mistakes.

22 Jun 2022 14:48:37
Agree winks would be a terrible signing just don't see him fitting into lampards high pressing style there's better options out there for a creative midfielder I'd prefer enzo Fernandez of river plate.

22 Jun 2022 14:54:56
Genuinely not sure why you think not learned from passed mistakes?

Harry Winks 26yr old defensive midfielder - a position we need cover in.

Struggled to get in the spurs team due to the quality of players they have but will walk into our team.

Was good enough to be called up to play for England.

Think will be a good signing for us if happens, and before anyone says we shouldn’t be taking other team cast offs - this is spurs we’re talking about a team miles ahead of us currently.

22 Jun 2022 14:57:51
How does it show that? He hasn’t played a game yet.

22 Jun 2022 15:28:18
Agreed. No better than the dross we have like gomes, doucoure, davies.

22 Jun 2022 18:25:55
Not for me. We need presence in the engine room and Winks does not offer that. We would be better targeting the likes of Sangare.

Plenty of better options available to cement the middle of the park than Winks.

What has he ever done/ shown to give the impression that he would be good enough to start in CM for a team striving to be in the top half of the table. Before anyone says he is good enough for England, they hand caps out these days like nobodies business.

20m spaffed away on him very much shows that we haven't learnt from our mistakes imo. Like RIchris said, he is no better than what we already have.

22 Jun 2022 20:17:49
Winks can pass a ball, ill say that, but he's not the best defensively. in my opinion we still need a proper defensive mid to play alongside him.
Sangarre, Diawara from Roma, Dominic kohr . types of player i'd like to see us target.

22 Jun 2022 20:26:29
How does anyone know he’s no better than what we already have?

Until we see him playing in our shirt there is absolutely no way of knowing if he’s good or not.

Problem is with a lot of our fans is they think we’re better than we are. We almost got relegated last season, we’re a mid table team at best currently and fans think we should be buying superstars - look what happened when we tried that!

We are not an attractive proposition to players - apart from money (stupid wages for us in to this mess) what do we have to offer? No European football, languishing bottom half of table, not in London and a fan base that wants to criticise players before even joined us!

We need to be realistic and purchase players that want to be with us and the manager thinks will improve us as a team - if that’s winks then get behind him and support him not slag him off before he’s had a chance with us.

22 Jun 2022 20:47:56
Your right there Dan mate we haven’t signed him yet and here we go again some trashing him before he’s even kicked a ball for us, didn’t Frank start to get the best out of Holgate and Iwobi, we have to trust his judgement.

22 Jun 2022 20:53:22
Totally agree GD.
Fans are asking whether we will sign this or that player, we need a reality check, until we get some stability, we will get diddly squat. We have no more money to WASTE, let's get back to basics, build the academy with quality, start getting players who understand the prem and hit the floor running. Just saying :-)

22 Jun 2022 22:44:49
Two of my mates who are big spies fans don’t rate him at all, say his defensive side is awful but he can pass a ball
I think we are far from being in the position to be picky right now, we need some players who want to graft and maybe Frank will see that in Winks, if he doesn’t I hope we swerve him.

22 Jun 2022 23:08:47
Feels like another Schneiderlin to me.

I’m not sure our financial mess will allow for risky options like this. Look at Deli Ali. Are we just taking Spurs’ unwanted players? Wish someone would come and do that to some of our squad!

23 Jun 2022 07:44:42
The jury is out as far as I'm concerned regarding Winks. he lacks pace, if we sign him, and if he turns out better than what he have already, we'll wait and see, but I'm not sure!

{Ed025's Note - I don’t relish the prospect I must say tomtom. Very average imo and hardly gets my juices flowing. For the reported £20m I think we could do a lot better..

23 Jun 2022 13:46:52
Not really a massive fan of his in the past but gingerdan is totally right so would ignore that. Worst case in my opinion is he's a slightly younger hungrier and cheaper replacement for Gomes as the sitting ballplayer. Would definitely give him the support if he does come in.
Would be more comfortable if half that fee is ridiculous add-ons like him getting us top 8 or playing for England again.

23 Jun 2022 14:19:07
Have to disagree dan on this occasion. For me we have to be much smarter with out spending and 20 million for winks has my stomach churning to be honest, again it's not so much the player it's the total lack of value! I don't think he is the right fit or what we need and the price is far far too high. I'm not getting too carried away as its possibly just paper talk anyway. I don't think most people on here expect superstars. I think there would be a certain amount of excitement around signing players we haven't heard of or heard little of, for much lower fees that are going to turn out to be absolute gems. don't ask me who or how we do that, I'm not saying moyes is the best manager we have ever had but that's the sort of recruitment I'd like to see.

23 Jun 2022 17:21:06
Whitty - who then realistically would you think we should purchase for £20m instead of Winks?

Regarding Moyes he did make some really good signings but he also made some shocking ones - Andy van der meyde, per kroldrup, Simon Davies, Rodrigo Beckham, Dan Gosling, Anderson Silva to name a few.

No manager will ever get every transfer right however I think it’s impossible to predict how good a new signing will or won’t be.

You can look at some of the signings Moyes made of so called cast offs from other clubs or players from lower leagues that no one was impressed with their signings and see how they improved for us - Sylvan Distin, Tim Howard, Andy Johnson, Lee Carsley and Phil Neville to name a few.

None of the above set the pulses racing when we signed them but all turned out to be shrewd signings who improved our team.

What’s to say if we recruit Winks he won’t be the same?

23 Jun 2022 18:33:54
He has been in the premier league long enough to know how good he is or can be. I never bought into the hype when he first started playing under Poch, the same way i didn't/ haven't with the other lad they have, Skipp. Another example of people hyping a young player up because he is young and English - much like Davies for us.

I am not asking for superstars by any means. Winks is 5ft 10 at a push, has no considerable physical attributes that i can think of and that is exactly what we are crying out for in the middle. He is hardly going to cause teams issues with his crab-like football. His passing stats are inflated for this very reason. Playing meaningless sideways football with not intent whatsoever.

If he signs, just like any player i will get behind him. Some fans are of the opinion that he isn't good enough and they are entitled to that opinion.

You say we aren't an attractive proposition but we are still a Premier league football club. Look at the likes of Bissouma to Brighton, Tielemans to Leicester, Raphina to Leeds, Guimaraes to Newcastle, Cornet to Burnley, Willock to Newcastle. All left bigger clubs to move to smaller ones and hardly prime destinations to live.

If your scouting team is good enough you can get decent buys in. They don't need to be superstars.

Again, for me, Winks just doesn't fit the type of player we should be going for, especially when we have the spending constraints atm, that's all mate.

25 Jun 2022 02:52:11
jmw1878 take a bow. I couldn't have explained that any better in regards to winks!





 

 

 
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