25 Jul 2024 12:23:04
Is that true JB will not sign a new contract at Everton unless they match the Man U offer of £160.000 does anyone know.
25 Jul 2024 12:48:31
Feels like blatant tapping up if true. It's one thing to declare interest and unsettle someone, it's another to sabotage contract negotiations by telling someone how much you'd pay them.
25 Jul 2024 13:01:00
Would you tbf? Best ask his agent GB. The player has all the power mate, even tho still has few years on his contract we run risk of him running his contract down or sulking.
Modern day football for you. Sheer greed.
25 Jul 2024 13:33:10
If another company in same line as work offered you a higher salary, to do the same job, would you ask your current employer to match it? Or stay and say, don't worry boss I'll do the same for you but for a lot less.
25 Jul 2024 14:02:23
Yeah totally get that bunkbeds, but totally different scenario we are talking tens of thousands per week not £300-400.
I'd like to think if I was happy and those around me I would commit and help the club/ work, but easy to say when not in that predicament nor have any alliance to the club.
He doesn't sign his value will plummet next summer. Bang on comment from EFCONE in regards them being allowed to offer terms whilst still under contract to us, happens all time tho.
25 Jul 2024 14:05:22
That's probably why man utd offered a petty sum for him, they promised him so much money instead of offering us a decent fee and just doubling his wages!
25 Jul 2024 14:15:26
We can’t know for sure, but he doesn’t seem the type to sulk, he’ll be looking for force his way into contention for the England squad.
We don’t have to offer him anything, he’s got years left on his contract.
25 Jul 2024 14:26:26
Well it makes you wonder why they even bother having contracts in the first place.
25 Jul 2024 15:19:40
Did we offer Branthwaite better pay than he was at Carlisle? Or Pickford mote than Sunderland? Or Beto, Chermiti? McNeil? Cahill, Cottee? Etc etc etc.
Tapping up is annoying I get it, bet we've done it as well.
Regardless of being hundreds or thousands we'd all want earn as much we could for our families, even if sometimes the amounts are pretty obscene compared to the rest of us earning a normal wage.
25 Jul 2024 15:30:47
Do we stick or twist we don’t up his pay to £160 grand he goes, good player and I do not want him to go but £160 grand wow.
25 Jul 2024 16:50:09
He is still under contract GB. So he can’t just walk away.
25 Jul 2024 16:50:56
If he signs a new contract at 160 then it's around 6-7m more for the year but how much more can we ask for him if next year he has 4 years left and another great season under his belt.
70-80 mill?
Got to be worth the investment.
25 Jul 2024 17:15:12
I agree with Smit.
We have to take into consideration how much it would cost us to replace a player of his ability.
He is definitely worth the extra money given the fact that he won’t be with us past next season.
He is no longer an unknown quantity and people will definitely be judging him a lot more closely. If he has another season like the last one, I think we will be well within our rights to ask for 80m +.
{Ed002's Note - Just to be clear - there has been no tapping up. Manchester United approached Everton and have spoken with his agent. That is how transfers work.}
25 Jul 2024 17:41:30
Agree Smit666 but only if he signs a long term contract. Have to maximise any sell on price.
Would also pay it just to stop the Mancs getting him.
25 Jul 2024 17:53:08
Good post Smit makes a lot of sense that.
25 Jul 2024 17:55:02
why would we even offer a new contract to a player who signed a contract October last year and has 3 years left on that contact?
25 Jul 2024 18:07:09
& What effect will that have on other squad members who believe they deserve parity? Or any potential future signings demands?
Agree makes since to tie him down but no one is bigger than the club, if he is on £70pw and asking £160k PW then think £120k take or leave, the tail can't wag the dog, let's be fair he is 22 had 1 very good season and I fully expect to kick on again (if his head and hearts in EFC) but does it justify a 90k payrise and potential unrest in squad after the predicament the club has been in, just hope those ain't making noise too much.
25 Jul 2024 18:43:27
I just think it is ridiculous that some teams can offer that sort of money a week and others can’t without falling foul of PSR.
There is only one direction this is heading: mega rich clubs with all the talent and the rest of us having to surrender our best assets as we just can’t compete. Euro Super league is coming unless this can be addressed - how they would or could do this is beyond me.
25 Jul 2024 19:05:15
Mocker we had players on 100k a week last season who spent the whole time on the bench. Agree it’s a lot of money, but if we want the maximum return in future sales then it’s something we have to do.
25 Jul 2024 19:22:36
He’s a great defender but he’s not £160k a week
Yet after his breakout season
Pay bump and build in the contract it rises over the coming years, could that be an option?
New 5 year contract with options on further years.
25 Jul 2024 19:33:46
Bottom line is that the best teams get the best players. Rich clubs get an unfair advantage. There was a time when we were one of the richest clubs in England and therefore could afford the best players. As unfair as it feels on us now, we were once that club who could afford to take from others. For sure though, the PSR has perversely ensured the status of an elite few despite its purpose of sustaining clubs operational costs.
25 Jul 2024 19:48:56
Notforme.
I get the logic mate, but we are trying to get ourselves on a even kneel, we can't afford to pay top 4 wages that's the reality, then for example Pickford or DCL etc coming knocking if have a decent season.
The problem is rightly or wrongly Man Utd stating what they pay, I know it ain't breaking any rules and we will have been guilty of it ourselves but BR stated in his post this is getting stupid, contracts mean nothing, we all know no loyalty in football, would be nice for players to actually come out and commit and say I've a contract I will honour it, mate he is 22 70k PW, not just him but football in general, something has to give and as BR states how can teams compete or hope to build, what happens say we give him the 160k and he gets too comfy and form effort totally drops off, like for example rashford or a Pogba once they got their bumper rise, doesn't seem the type Jarrad but it's the agents and greed that have taken over football, it's no good for football and I say that as a football fan not just a Everton one.
25 Jul 2024 20:07:28
Give him what he wants but make him sign a long term deal. 7 yrs. Build a team around him. This kid is class and we will struggle to replace him. Pay for quality instead of the last few seasons of paying over 100k per week for dross.
26 Jul 2024 09:40:38
You have a good point Mocker, can’t argue with that mate.