12 May 2020 14:48:19
Not being privy to the clubs financial status and therefore to the extent we are predicted to contravene FFP limits, as a hypothesis perhaps the way forward would be:
Sell
Player. SP Salary P/ W. P/ A
£m. £k. £m
Kean. 25. 60. 3
Keane. 15. 80. 4
Tosan. 10. 70. 3.5
Sigurdsson. 10. 120. 6.25
Schneiderlin 5. 120. 6.25
Walcott. 8. 110. 6
Sandro. 3. 70. 3.5
Besic. 3. 30. 1.5
Bolasie. 3. 80. 4
Stekelenburg. 0. 70. 3.5
Niasse. 0. 65. 3.3
Martina. 0. 60. 3
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£89m. £48.28
BUY for example
Rodrigues. £ 40. 86. 4.5
Under. £.25. 70. 3.5
Gabriel. £ 25. 80. 4
or
Todibo. £ 20. 70. 3.5
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£ 85 - 90m. £11.5 - 12m

Savings per year of c £ 36m in wages

I must stress the figures are my guesstimates but I don't think will be a million miles away.

Carlo's signings, which may or may not be those offered as an example, would I feel sure significantly improve our chances of breaking into the top 6 and as a consequence would bring in more PL place money and more tv coverage revenue.

Therefore the nett yearly benefit £50m + from our current financial position and start to address our FFP over shoot.


1.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 10:03:34
Whilst it looks great on paper, there are a lot of other fees involved with both selling abd buying players. Ed has given some information about this in the past but i know he doesn't like getting too much into finances. Personally i also think we may struggle to sell some players due to their current wages abd might have extra expense there.

{Ed002's Note - It might be an apt time to explain again about the cost of transfers (excluding wages). What is paid by the buying club would typically include:

(a) Transfer fee - the big number.
(b) Any levy applied by the local FA – 5% for the Premier League.
(c) Tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(d) Agent fees – this may be to one or more agents (as an example, Liverpool have spent £44M plus VAT on agent fees (nearly double the next highest) in 2018/2019.
(e) Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(f) Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches (what do you mean you have a super agent?) .
(g) Tax due on the Intermediary fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(h) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered).
(i) Legal fees.
(j) VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable.
(k) Moving/relocation costs for the player.
(l) VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable.
(m) Solidarity and Traing Contribututions (see below).
(n) Paying up insurance costs to the selling club (usually waived).

What is paid by the selling club would typically include:

(a) If the player is under 24 and moving between different football associations, a Solidarity contribution paid to his previous clubs responsible for his training - this is 5% of the transfer fee received (apportioned 5% of the contribution for each year from the season of his 12th birthday to the season of his 15th birthday and 10% of the contribution for each season from his 16th to 23rd birthdays). This is generally (there are exceptions) recoverable from the buying club but responsibility (that is meant to be with the buying club) can be assigned to the selling club.
(b) If the player moves to a higher category club (all clubs being categorised 1 to 4) then Training Compensation is due for the period of age 12 to 21. Compensation is due to all clubs when the player turns from amateur to professional and thereafter only when he moves from his final training club to another club. The initial training compensation is levied at the training costs associated with Category 4 clubs. The subsequent figure is agreed between the sides or tribuneral if necessary. This is generally (there are exceptions) recoverable from the buying club but responsibility (that is meant to be with the buying club) can be assigned to the selling club.
(c) Any monies owed to the player if he did not request a transfer – again this is 5% of the transfer fee received.
(d) Any monies owed to the player in terms of his contract (typically outstanding owed wages (not future wages) and bonuses).
(e) Any money contractually due to a previous club as the result of a sell-on clause.}


2.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 10:11:06
cant see us selling any of the players mentioned for the prices asked.


3.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 11:44:38
The math just doesn’t add up to £89m anyway 😂.