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14 Jun 2022 08:38:12
Hate to say it but Frank might not last until October never mind Christmas. With all the goings on the last week or so we are going to struggle again no movement in the transfer market and looks like we are selling our best player. This is going to be one hell of a fight for Lampard to make a winning team I am worried he is set up to fail as Everton are in a worse position than any of us thought. Needed a complete clear out and it's not looking likely to happen we could possibly be even worse than last year if that's even possible.
1.) 14 Jun 2022 09:25:53
Leagues just finished a few weeks ago and you think it would be sorted by now? so much negativity again! Its going to be a long hard summer for Frank and the board, fans will have to be patient!
2.) 14 Jun 2022 09:52:41
If we are predominately looking at free transfers and loans. The club would probably wait till contracts expire and clubs have made squad assessments re availability of loan players (baring in mind most of the EPL clubs are in the holiday season) its not surprising that there hasn't been any announcements re transfers yet. We don't want to create more problems with FFP by spending on new players until we have banked finances to cover any cost incurred. If we haven't signed/ loaned anyone by the 1st Sep then we may be in for an interesting season.
3.) 14 Jun 2022 10:22:30
Said it before say it again. Why the rush you would just be paying players wages while they are on holiday.
Some right doom merchants on this site.
4.) 14 Jun 2022 11:41:40
Sure I read somewhere that Pre season doesn’t start till July 1st. So as Woburn says why pay a player when on holiday if our finances are in such a mess?
Also majority of contracts end 30th June so if are going to be picking up free agents it wouldn’t be until after this date.
I also imagine Frank may want to see his squad in action for a few weeks of pre-season before he commits to bringing in any loan players. What if one of the under 23s or one of our current first team squad steps up during pre-season and can fill a role but we’ve already recruited a loan player into that slot?
If we are in a big a mess as being reported with our finances then our recruitment will have to be decent this window to ensure no further problems.
We’re going to have to ensure we recruit within our means and into positions we require cover for.
Therefore highly unlikely we’ll be purchasing or loaning anyone until later in window when frank assessed squad and knows what he needs.
5.) 14 Jun 2022 12:14:44
Sign Tarkowski now give him 400k to go on 4week holiday or wait and start paying him in July.
6.) 14 Jun 2022 13:04:43
Let’s ramp up the doom and gloom before the dust has fully settled! ??♂️.
7.) 14 Jun 2022 13:30:25
It’s not looking good. Everyone can see we are in trouble like serious trouble. If we end up with gray or Gordon as our number 10 like some people on here are saying we are doomed that’s never going to work. This could take years to sort out again. Frank would need to work miracles to sort this out. No money to spend and selling out best player. If it’s true then god help frank and god help us Toffees. It will be another fight for survival next year. I would love to be more positive but all the vibes coming out of the club are making that near impossible. Season only over and already I am worried we could be worse than last season. I hope I am wrong and it’s not as bad as it looks but it could be worse than any of us thought. Can no1 see this or yous happy I thought like most tv pundits that we needed a complete clear out and start again but don’t think we are in a position to even do that. We have to keep these bums next season and sell richie how is that not a very bad idea. I am very worried about the state of our club. Holy crap we even offered Kenny a new contract? Shows you we are in a bad way offering him a contract thank god he turned it dow. Phew.
8.) 14 Jun 2022 13:43:03
I wouldn’t sign him in the first place he is average and I would never sign a 30 year old cb we need young blood in we all ready have a few oaps as it is what age is Coleman 43 and looks like we still keeping him. All the signs are bad it’s worse than we thought.
9.) 14 Jun 2022 17:43:16
Crikey Con you’re a glass half empty type of guy.
You’re all doom and gloom. It’s definitely not as bad as you make out.
If we sell Richarlison then so be it.
No issue if we sign Tarkowski - a proven defender in premier league who is clearly better than we have already got.
Who said no money? We just need to ensure we balance books to be able to spend. Potentially money coming in from Moise Kean sale as well as some sponsorship and prize money.
We’ve also released some big earners (Delph, siggy and Tosun) that helps with the wage bill.
We’ve apparently transfer listed a few. Allan, Gomes, Keane and mina have been mentioned.
Kenny was with us since a kid, new contract I imagine was to try and then get a sale for him rather than him leave on a free.
We don’t need a complete clear out we need a few decent additions probably 3 or 4 and we’ll have a decent first 11.
10.) 14 Jun 2022 18:07:30
I hope your right. Thing is I’ve been positive every season now for 30 years and every season it’s hard to watch. I thought things would be different when the money came 6 years ago but Everton true to form have messed it all up. The thing that worry’s me is we might be in a worse position now than before the money came. I think we will be doing well to turn this around in 4/ 5 seasons it’s that bad. Hope I am wrong and frank can pull it off. Tarkowski not much better than what we have already he coming from a defence that just went down thank god they were worse than ours. Id love to be more positive but Tarkowski isn’t going to float my boat and remember Keane who did we buy that plonker from Burnley because he had a decent season look how that turned out. Keane has 2 left feet. we just make the same mistakes year in year out.
11.) 14 Jun 2022 18:22:13
Doesn't matter if we announce it now. We can't start paying him until his Burnley contact finishes anyway and that's the end of June.
12.) 14 Jun 2022 18:37:38
Personally i would prefer us to use Gordon as a no 10 than out on the flank, his first touch is tidy, he can go either way and he is intelligent and knows how to draw and win fouls.
That isn't to say i don't agree with you that we need a better no 10 option than Gray or Gordon. It is an integral part of the pitch for any side. I would rather give Gordon another year of getting to grips with the Prem, rather than put added stress onto him.
I also agree on the fact that we need a clear out mate, i have been saying this for years, so much cannon fodder it is untrue. Hopefully we start clearing it. The likes of Sig, Tosun, Kenny, Delph have all gone (and on big wages too) . I would still like to get rid of Gomes and Iwobi (people getting carried away with the fact he ran for once in the last games of the season) . Davies is on low wages and we can't sell everyone.
As Dan said, the money that frees up from those leaving and the potential fees for Kean and Richy should give us some flexibility to move in the market.
I don't think it is as bad as you think mate. Lampard will have learnt a lot from that first season, he is an intelligent man and knows how football works both on and off the pitch.
The deciding factor on whether the season will be a s*** show or not is the recruitment. Thelwell seems to have good enough pedigree and being a local fella from a family with blues, we shall see how he fares.
We need to be targeting smart buys though, none of the usual sh*** we get in.
Tarkowski may be 30, but centre backs play into their mid 30s. His stats were up there last year, he is rarely injured (something that cannot be said about the rest of them) . Most importantly, he is free.
Pickford
Myko
Tarkowski
CB (cannot trust Keane or Holgate imo. Godfrey had a complicated season but i think there is a decent cb in there) .
RB (no clue how Patterson is going to turn out tbh) .
DM
Doucoure (dropped off himself)
CM
Gray
Gordon
Dom
I agree that team isn't where it needs to be mate, far from it but with some intelligent buys we should have enough to avoid relegation, especially with the decent home form under Lamps.
You would like to think that there will be 3 worse teams than us next year. Southampton ended abysmally. Leeds aren't looking great and look set to lose Raphina. The promoted teams will struggle.
We need to get this FFP out of the way to give us more freedom again. We need to learn from our mistakes and quickly.
The likes of Kim Min-Jae (CB) , Sanagare (DM - although we should have got him from Toulouse before PSV. Chance may be gone now) , Nunes (CM) , these are the types we need to be going after. Good ages and ready to make moves to a bigger league.
Apologies for the long-winded reply but have some positivity mate, after all that is how we got out of the mess we were in a couple of months back.
13.) 15 Jun 2022 01:48:01
When you sign a player their contract usually starts 1st of July so you wouldn’t be paying them for the next 4 weeks ? (obvs excluding jan tranfsers and free transfers altho free transfers you only start to pay after their current contract has ended)
{Ed001's Note - their contract ends at that time, it starts when the deal is done. However a deal right now can't be completed until 1st of July, that is when the player can be registered with a new club and so actually officially joins.}
14.) 15 Jun 2022 06:23:28
I’m not sure Gordon is a number 10. The lad doesn’t look up enough and is best used out wide where he can run at a defence.
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29 Jul 2022 20:27:07
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1.) 29 Jul 2022 21:27:56
Con you're on fire today. Who are you and what have you done with Con81?!
2.) 29 Jul 2022 22:27:16
Maybe I am a changed man only have eyes for blue. Maybe listening to that bue potato guy is having some sort of affect on me. He has broken me. Only joking potato my friend you keep her lit.
29 Jul 2022 15:01:05
McNeil wasn't brought in to score goals. I think Frank signed him because of his dribbling abilities. He was 2nd in successful dribbles in the league last season only Saint maximin had more and McNeil was in a team that didn't encourage attacking football. He is a good crosser something we have missed since Dinge left. McNeil is good at defending and his work rate is excellent so I think we have signed a good young hungry player. He is better than iwobie anyway and he will try a lot harder that's for sure. Give McNeil a chance I think he will surprise some of you.22 years old as well that's good news Gordon is the same age yous all rave about him and McNeil is better than Gordon in my opinion.
1.) 29 Jul 2022 18:46:12
Was that a positive comment con? Haha.
2.) 29 Jul 2022 20:53:50
It was mate ? I int all bad I do give players a chance. He may not let me down now I am counting on him.
29 Jul 2022 00:48:42
I think McNeil is a good addition to the team. He played in a defensive team last year and I think he has more to offer going forward if allowed to do so. He loves to cross the ball he is young and hungry he is certainly better than what we have at the min as DCL gets no service from our current wingers and if we sign a proper cm and a decent striker I think things might be looking better. Signing McNeil gets a thumbs up from me as long as we sign more players in the positions that we need strengthened. We just need to survive this year that's our only goal anything else is a bonus. defo need cm I'd take guye back np he is a good number 6 just what we need this season he would certainly tighten us up. I hope we get him because there isn't any better options for us at the min.
23 Jul 2022 11:40:26
I think our best option is Belotti he is out of contract at Torino. I think him and DCL up front would be a handful. Maybe he has other plans but we should at least try and get him. He has a decent goal scoring record and I think he would suit the prem. I like him as a player hopefully we make him an offer he can't refuse. He has done well for Italy at international level. He knows where the back of the net is.
1.) 23 Jul 2022 15:30:18
Con, I think Belotti is one handful of a player for any defender, my only concerns would be that he dosent have blistering pace but his strength is his movement which on its day is world class… but again…… like DCL he is the type of striker that thrives on service and for me that is our problem. He would be wasted in our team. ??♂️.
2.) 23 Jul 2022 21:07:09
It's irrelevant he ain't going to even consider us.
3.) 23 Jul 2022 23:34:29
True true Brownshoes, bit like us Looking at the premier league table. Irrelevant as we ain’t going to win it.
17 Jul 2022 01:57:44
Must say mills done well fair play to the kid.
1.) 17 Jul 2022 03:44:09
Second half, the youngsters brought some energy and composure, but we can't play that formation until we get midfielders who are able to control a game.
2.) 17 Jul 2022 03:50:45
Second half much improved over the first. Holgate is a liability and we where again vulnerable to corners. Kids all did well in the second half and can at least pass the ball to another Everton player.
23 Jul 2022 11:47:06
This is definitely the worst Everton team in history the players are a joke they should hang their heads in shame definitely agree with GB this current team are a bunch of loosers. Championship players we have.
17 Jun 2022 14:30:00
Is it not going to be ready for the 2023/ 24 season or is it 2024/ 2025 now.
{Ed002's Note - It won't be next summer.}
17 Jun 2022 14:37:47
2024/ 2025 isn’t that far away anyway it won’t be long going in. I can’t wait until it’s open sometimes my kids can’t see properly at Goodison and the seats are so bad lol will be nice to look forward to a brand new stadium. Hope the team will be sorted what’s that give us 2 seasons to get in better shape. Here edd can we not spend money now and pass it off as future earnings from the new stadium. If we can show we are going to generate money in the next 10years can we not tap into it now?
17 Jun 2022 12:52:25
Great Article Edd but I think that just confirms what I thought it is worse than anyone thought ah well hopefully in a few years everything will be different and we will be in a better position. Looks like us fans our going to have to play our part again next season. Best fans in the world come on Everton hopefully Frank can pull something out of the hat. i'd be happy with 10th next year that would be a step in the right direction. New ground in 2023 so I am buzzing for that it’s going to be amazing.
{Ed002's Note - The stadium won't be open in 2023.}
14 Jun 2022 18:07:30
I hope your right. Thing is I’ve been positive every season now for 30 years and every season it’s hard to watch. I thought things would be different when the money came 6 years ago but Everton true to form have messed it all up. The thing that worry’s me is we might be in a worse position now than before the money came. I think we will be doing well to turn this around in 4/ 5 seasons it’s that bad. Hope I am wrong and frank can pull it off. Tarkowski not much better than what we have already he coming from a defence that just went down thank god they were worse than ours. Id love to be more positive but Tarkowski isn’t going to float my boat and remember Keane who did we buy that plonker from Burnley because he had a decent season look how that turned out. Keane has 2 left feet. we just make the same mistakes year in year out.
02 Aug 2022 23:01:12
Smit666 you have the devils phone number after your name and your calling me dark clouds. could have picked any number and you picked that one that’s deep.
02 Aug 2022 22:42:40
Your probably right bluejohns. We all have our little secrets. All joking aside I did hear that the big lad suffered last season with mental health issues. Weather it’s true or not isn’t for me to say. The club won’t put that information out there so they just say he is injured. I think we all wish him a speedy recovery but we all knew we needed a new striker incase this keeps happening and for whatever reason we int got one yet and time has ran out big game on Saturday and possibly without DCL it’s not great is it.
02 Aug 2022 20:25:52
It’s on some website called the bobble. sure the club and the fans knew this was going to happen it’s nothing new. The big lad has some sort of mental problems and it looks like it’s not getting any better anytime soon. Maybe this is another Frank Maloney in the making. Whatever it is I hope he sorts it out he has the potential to be a great striker.
02 Aug 2022 17:24:09
Aye probably win 7 2 this time lol. I coach I see it with my own eyes our u13s beat a u18s international woman’s side 5 1 the other month. Have nothing against womens football I am just saying it has a long way to go before it can be classed as quality football. Not putting them down fair play to everyone of them. Hopefully it will keep improving the more women play it the better it will get.
02 Aug 2022 16:45:07
Yes fair play is right, just don’t think we should get carried away USA women are the best in the world and they got beat 5 2 by 14 year old academy mens team. Did the women not celebrate on Saturday and Sunday is that not enough. we don’t need every prem league match this week to clap in the 56th min do we.