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25 Jul 2021 00:05:29
Just wanting to bring some positivity to the group, I'm absolutely buzzing for next season. Whether you're behind the new signings or not, it's a sign of identity of wingers looking to play to our strengths. We are crying out for longevity from the top, and despite his liverpool links I firmly believe Rafa deserves a chance. He knows what our strentths are, DCL and Richarlison and service from wide? We owe it to the team to get behind them from the stands regardless. We have Pickford, Digne, Godfrey, Coleman, Allan, Doucoure, James, Richarlison, DCL. I for one am buzzing for the season ahead.

RoyalToffee

1.) 25 Jul 2021 08:59:44
With you there buddy really hope Rafa gets the lads going, exciting season ahead.


2.) 25 Jul 2021 11:58:54
It's exciting at the beginning of every season and then fizzles out mid-season due to a variety of reasons. Let's hope that Rafa can change this trend and keep us excited the whole season.


3.) 25 Jul 2021 12:32:45
Still need to sort out the right side before I can get remotely excited by what’s happened so far.


4.) 25 Jul 2021 12:42:50
Normally fizzles out after 45minutes 8n fairness!


5.) 25 Jul 2021 12:45:58
Defo Holgate needs replacing.


6.) 25 Jul 2021 13:13:18
Not remotely excited by what’s happened so far. Still lack a right back and a creative midfielder. If we don’t get those, then what’s really changed?


7.) 25 Jul 2021 13:18:36
Still players to come in to I reckon. Brands doing well getting few out. Looking forward to the season.


8.) 25 Jul 2021 18:35:21
Defo new manager is the biggest part for me, I reckon he will do well for us.


9.) 25 Jul 2021 20:57:40
Just bought my club membership to watch the pre season friendlies I’m definitely in the quietly optimistic side, have to watch the game couldn’t cope if we are amazing and I missed it.


 

 

19 Jun 2021 02:06:36
I think eventually I could forgive Rafa, had he been at the top of european football. But this is a bloke who's achieved nothing in the last 7 years. Didn't fancy Nuno initially, but right now, give it to him! Maybe it's a ploy to get us behind him.

RoyalToffee

{Ed0666's Note - tell me who do you think in all sincerity the world champion manager you’re hoping to recruit? With all due respect mate you’re not very good, have a delapidated ground, one or two great players that’s it and no where near top 4 so champions league ain’t gonna seduce any decent manager. Be greatful Rafa wants the job and let him work hard and diligently and then in a couple of years you’ll be in a better position to attract a more attractive coach.


1.) 19 Jun 2021 07:57:44
Hi Ed, I think you make an excellent point above around perception of our Fans. I do sit back and take in the ‘Nothing but the best mantra’ but I think most fans understand we ain’t getting Pep or the likes waking in at our club…. However what I don’t think has helped this time round (lost count 🤣) is that this manager will be replacing Carlo Ancelloti. Whilst the football in my opinion was rank, and no better home performances from him than I had watched under any of the x3 that went before him… he was still a ‘name’ in world football, clearly an elite name and therefore for some the person who follows him will be judged on the persona comparison. I for one will sit calmly and ultimately judge our manager on the performances in the green football pitch - whether that be Rafa, Nuno, Gallado, Ferguson etc…. But it’s hard initially not to panic should say another Allerdyce walk through the door!


2.) 19 Jun 2021 07:57:44
Hi Ed, I think you make an excellent point above around perception of our Fans. I do sit back and take in the ‘Nothing but the best mantra’ but I think most fans understand we ain’t getting Pep or the likes waking in at our club…. However what I don’t think has helped this time round (lost count 🤣) is that this manager will be replacing Carlo Ancelloti. Whilst the football in my opinion was rank, and no better home performances from him than I had watched under any of the x3 that went before him… he was still a ‘name’ in world football, clearly an elite name and therefore for some the person who follows him will be judged on the persona comparison. I for one will sit calmly and ultimately judge our manager on the performances in the green football pitch - whether that be Rafa, Nuno, Gallado, Ferguson etc…. But it’s hard initially not to panic should say another Allerdyce walk through the door!

{Ed0666's Note - At last some realism. I appreciate you’re sentiments Blu. When Carlo got hired I said he was not the right guy many times on podcasts and while editing. You need a guy who will give you 3-5 years of dedication, hard work, build a solid blueprint and building from the ground up. Wether that be Big Dunc or whoever? Rafa will give you that why can’t people see that? You’re trying to be Barcelona under Pep when in reality you’re Charlton Athletic. If Moshiri brings in Rafa then he deserves praise not ridicule as it’s a fantastic business decision.


3.) 19 Jun 2021 10:45:22
Apart from his name I see nothing that should worry any manager following ancelotti, the football was dreadfull and yet that squad has cost a fortune, so no whoever our manager is next he is following his failure one he bolted from as soon as real Madrid opened the stable door.

{Ed0666's Note - I mean even if he stayed what would he have done?


4.) 19 Jun 2021 12:43:37
If we are so bad and Rafa is so great, why does he want to come?

{Ed0666's Note - because he’s an extremely charitable man.


5.) 19 Jun 2021 12:54:28
I thought Carlo hit the nail on head at the end of the season. If you want to play better football then you need players who are better on the ball.

The football was dire because we didn't have the players to play that style of football. That's what good managers see and fans don't.

Personally though I'm in the belief we need some consistency and stability over a prolonged period of time more than anything right now but most fans want success next season. A good manager we know it is going to take 2 or 3 years, people who understand football know it will take time.

However, we'll have the boo brigade out hounding the manager and he'll be off soon enough and we start all over again. So getting Rafa will only mean it will start on day 1 instead of month 6.


6.) 19 Jun 2021 12:50:00
You're right Ed
Rafa is good enough
Nuno is good enough
Potter is good enough
Howe may even be good enough

Ancelotti was a 'wow' signing but ultimately didn't work out. We need to be realistic and work our to the top sides because we're no where near yet.

{Ed0666's Note - I think Dyche would also be ideal for you guys.


7.) 19 Jun 2021 13:21:28
Charitable? I doubt he would be coming for free. I agree he is a good manager, but our squad is so poor and our recruitment so bad that any idea that he is going to come in and turn everything round in two years is unrealistic. We need a 10 year plan to be put in place, its not about getting the best out of this squad, it is a total overhaul we need.

{Ed0666's Note -that’s my whole point who better to do that than Rafa or someone like Dyche?


8.) 19 Jun 2021 13:29:51
I’m sorry Ed, but grateful that Rafa wants the job? With all the issues that you just pointed out, we aren’t that far off from Europe for next year IMO. A couple key signings and we will be a better team with a world class grounds 2-3 years away. I think there are better managers, up and coming managers that want to take on our project, that don’t come with the baggage and have a longer shelf life than Rafa. Give me a Santo, Galtier or Fornseca over Rafa any day of the week. Winning cures everything but if Rafa gets hired and doesn’t rattle off 8 wins in a row (unlikely) the fans will burn down Goodison. Then we start all over again. Not worth the risk.

{Ed0666's Note - Hey Tony. I was in Tampa the other day. Love that place. Yes you maybe be only 2-3 signings away from Europe but ifs and maybes aren’t reslistic. You could sign three duds and be in the doldrums. You’d really prefer Fonseca than Rafa? Why?


9.) 19 Jun 2021 13:39:30
Disagree our squad isn’t that bad, and neither is our recruitment. But when you constantly play players out of position, and have no clear plan then rubbish happens.
Do I want Benitez no. But not because of his red past. Because he has done nothing in recent years to show he deserves it. The past is just that. If we seriously want to build the club then we need a good coach not a has been manager. Brands does the purchasing so just get a good young coach to get the team playing to a system.
Don’t need sixty year old looking for one final pay day.


10.) 19 Jun 2021 14:25:10
Definitely should not feel grateful that Benítez is interested in managing us.

The idea that there's something wrong or unrealistic about Evertonians or that it shows we are bitter or "stuck in the past" because we don't want someone who disrespected the club I find astonishing from anyone who calls themselves a fan.

What supporters of which team would want a manager who had disrespected their club?

Respect for the club (or any organisation thinking of employing anybody but especially a football club) should be such a basic condition for appointment that it shouldn't even normally be something that needs to be discussed.

Give me an ambitious young manager who sees Everton as a way to make a name for himself over someone doesn't take us seriously but thinks we might be a nice boost to his pension any day.


11.) 19 Jun 2021 14:34:43
if he had stayed? Can't answer that because he didn't.


12.) 19 Jun 2021 15:24:21
Bunny man you make a good point about fans having a manager who some years ago disrespected our club whilst managing our bitter rivals. I hated it when Rafa said that I really really did.

However I also hated when we had managers like Moyes who was managing us and quoting taking knives to gun fights. We have long been ‘dignified’ Everton who say all the right things off the pitch, do all the magnificent things in the community, liaise with fans when we change our badge, consider moving home etc…. Yet my kids have seen us play in Europe once, whilst their mates watch players lifting trophies etc… I don’t want to lose the fantastic wrap around work we do but ‘God give me strength’

I will forgive Rafa if he comes in and delivers like I forgave Wayne (one of our own) Rooney from kissing the Man Utd badge after he left us when he unlike Rafa was born a blue. (By the way I am not in the pro Rafa camp, I’m just not in the anti one! )


13.) 19 Jun 2021 16:23:08
Because we pay top dollar for managers when we are a mid table side, attractive job or what.


14.) 20 Jun 2021 03:36:52
Hi Ed,

Tampa is great, what brought you to town? I feel Fonseca plays a more progressive type of football that would fit in well with Everton and he wins, which will endear him to everyone. I know he had his issues at Roma, but I understand part if that was out of his control. Rafa isn’t know for beautiful football and he hasn’t been winning in the last 5 years. Unfortunately, this is a what have you done for me lately business. Let me know when you are back in town and I’ll turn you on to some great restaurants.

{Ed0666's Note - hey Tony I was in the land of the strip club on business mate and come over at least once a month so may take
you up on that restaurant list offer. Are you an ex pat or a native? . Fonseca is more expansive than Rafa but winning the league in Ukraine isn’t La Liga. But credit where credits due it still has to be won. There is a dearth of decent managers at the moment and consequently slim pickings. Rafa May be doomed before he starts but there’s hardly any outstanding managers beating a Path to you’re door?


15.) 20 Jun 2021 14:59:27
Hi Ed, native, lived in Tampa Bay for 30 years. Email me- tonyl@taylorwhite. com. I agree the pool of great managers is very shallow. Everton will be here in July (Orlando) can’t wait to see them play. Hopefully we’ll have a manager by then?! Lol!

{Ed0666's Note - hey will deffo give you a shout next time I’m in Tampa mate. You got more chance Andrea Boceli getting eyesight than you have Everton appointing a manger


16.) 20 Jun 2021 15:48:36
Ouch 🤣.


 

 

06 Jun 2021 02:33:48
It seems I'm very much alone in this opinion, but I would love to give Sean Dyche a chance.

The bloke has brought stability to a Burnley side with no money, and nothing but hard working, passionate players.

We've tried pretty football with Martinez and Silva, a supposedly world class manager in Carlo, Komean was never interested in managing Everton, and Allardyce was simply a cry for desperation, albeit arguably the most successful of the bunch!

Dyche will see the Everton job as a huge honour. He will not sit by passively as Keane and Holgate play yet another sideways pass, but bark from the touchline, demanding aggression and forward passes.

The Burnley players are aggressive, direct, passionate, they play with tempo, and give everything on the pitch. All things we associate with Everton Football Club.

He loves a laugh with the media, he's a personable guy who would get the club and unite the fans

Yes Burnley do not play the most attractive football in the world, but my god they battered us at Goodison (although not much of an achievement this season) .

The Pirlo link is laughable, Sarri bored Chelsea fans to death, even we did the double over Wolves which doesn't say much for Nuno, Bobby Martinez has expired, and Dunc I love to bits but would like to see him manage in the lower leagues

Give Dyche a chance.

RoyalToffee

1.) 06 Jun 2021 08:04:00
As much as I agree with the sentiment about Dyche if we rolled back 3 years then yes but I think it would be a mistake hiring him now as no disrespect to Burnley managing a club with no real aspirations to challenge the top 4 is completely different to managing a club who want to compete at the top and that brings a whole different level of pressure and us as a fanbase wether correct or not are very demanding and want instant success due to 26 years of winning nothing and feeling like we had a large chunk of success ripped from us due to the ban in the late 80s which hurts even more when our dear friends like to brag about it while winning stuff along the way for me it's Nuno Rafa and I have added Fonseca to the list we need a manager who will take us further up the league and I don't feel Dyche would do that.


2.) 06 Jun 2021 10:14:55
Dyke wouldn't be a bad choice. What he's done with extremely limited resources is akin to what Moyes did for us except Moyes had more money to spend. Dyke has developed the like of Tarkoskvy, Pope, Mee, McNeil, Westwood, Wood and Vydra to name just a few and has challenged for Europe several seasons

His style of football can be a bit defensive sometimes but haven't we been complaining about CA doing the same thing or didn't we complain when Martinez attacked but forgot defending is also important

I think he gets the Everton ethos which I actually think is important

My only doubt is whether he could attract the top players to Everton but maybe the next couple of years we need the grafters, the ones who want to improve and he has proved he can find and attract those.


3.) 06 Jun 2021 12:58:21
Dyche has built that squad over a few years and hasn't really excelled. He has had time and funds to get Burnley into a mid table functioning team but hasn't quite managed to do that. They always seem to flirt with the drop because they lose 3 games then win one and that keeps them afloat.
Hes not someone I could see taking us any further up than we are now.


4.) 06 Jun 2021 13:49:43
In the last 5 years Burnley have had a net transfer spend of 10.5 m per year. Only Sheffield United, Southampton and Norwich have lower net spends.
By contract ours is 3rd highest at 55m
Based on these I would say Dyche has had very limited funds and hasn't done a bad job keeping them in the Premiership
Ours just shows that we haven't

I really don't know who we should choose but I wouldn't be that upset if Dyche got it.


5.) 06 Jun 2021 23:49:30
That's good to know BW let's sign Dyche up now he's obviously someone we need.


6.) 07 Jun 2021 02:16:36
It's all about opinions Smit.

For instance you like Davies. I think he's Championship at best

Dyche has brought on several midfielders to a higher standard than Davies ever has been. Maybe he could help him.


7.) 07 Jun 2021 07:15:53
To be fair BW every manager I wanted for Everton have turned out rubbish so on current form I'm not the best person to choose our next manager.


8.) 07 Jun 2021 09:32:38
To be fair Smit I'm in exactly the same boat

Wanted Martinez
Thought Silva was a good signing
Koeman - happy
Allerdyce - only one I got right
Carlo - best not say what I feel.


 

 

01 May 2021 22:18:02
Another loss against 'supposedly' lesser opposition. This one is a particularly tough one to take. A real chance to put a bit of pressure on the teams around us, blown. Not even sure where to throw the blame. A severe lack of legs in midfield perhaps, Doucoure advertising himself as our most important player without even playing. Davies a much better player than Gomes for me.

I would love to come on here and post some advice or wisdom, but sadly I really don't have anything to say!

This season has been such a shame.

Oh well, we go again! Cracking a beer, have a good Bank Holiday weekend all.

RoyalToffee

1.) 01 May 2021 22:37:12
As a team we aren't good enough for top 6.
It's hard to go from 12th to 6th in a season. If we get it it will be luck rather than deserved.


 

 

25 Nov 2019 13:32:12
If Silva does leave, Sean Dyche for me, although can't say I've seen his name linked unfortunately.

RoyalToffee

1.) 25 Nov 2019 13:45:10
Royal Toffee, he would certainly have us trying.


2.) 25 Nov 2019 19:11:43
Too big a job for Dyche.


3.) 25 Nov 2019 19:55:57
The way I see it Smit, is right now he wouldn't (not just him btw) be following in someone's giant footsteps he/ they have a blanc canvas to work imo which is why I always felt Utd was to big for David Moyes as a matter of fact.
He was following a big big legend, Marco is arguably as much of a nomark that we will ever get! Hopefully.


4.) 25 Nov 2019 20:41:35
Dyche wouldn't be able to go around barking at his players at Everton he would be too under the spotlight and with some bigger names to manage aswell.
Everton is a different animal to Burnley and his ways just wouldn't sit right at Everton. That's my thought anyway.

{Ed025's Note - i agree smit..


5.) 25 Nov 2019 20:54:08
Name a manager we have appointed in last 20 years where the job was bigger than the managerMoyes came from Preston and lasted 11 years, but yet Dyche been in prem for a while but too big for him, get real we ain’t getting a manager that’s won things.


6.) 25 Nov 2019 21:08:42
Well I don't agree because unless we hire a proven trophy winner, which is what I prefer btw we are atm feasting at the 'Beggars Banquet'
Look again at the guys that the pundits press et al are saying will come .


7.) 25 Nov 2019 21:12:43
TBM, you nailed it, spot on we have to be realistic about this mate quite right.


8.) 25 Nov 2019 21:18:06
Whats with all this "Too big a job business"?

Kendall to Everton, Fergie to Man U, Shanks to Liverpool, etc etc. All were young managers who were ready for a step up. Dyche, Howe, and others not getting a look in, but we are oh so ready to go back and look at failed has beens. A young manager with a good guide to advise him works well. Look at Mike Flynn at Newport being guided by Lennie Lawrence. Coach one day and now a manager being head hunted. Why can't we take the likes of Howe and pay the likes of Hoddle to guide him for his first years. If we can't get a big name then what have we got to lose other than take on a known loser.


9.) 25 Nov 2019 21:42:04
Well I can name 3. Martinez, koeman and Silva all 3 played the same players even though we were rubbish and not getting results. Why? Because they were too afraid to drop the big names and risk losing, even though they were losing.


10.) 25 Nov 2019 22:08:55
''Why? Because they were too afraid to drop the big names and risk losing, even though they were losing. ''

Lol so that's the reason, Sigmund Freud over here, did they mention anything else while they were on your couch.

Or is that just a guess like? 🤣.


11.) 25 Nov 2019 22:44:07
It's no coincidence those 3 managers haven't gone on to manage a bigger club than ours. Everton was the biggest gig they could get and they couldn't cut it.
Koeman and Martinez took the easy option to repair their reputation and took an international job. Silva will most likely do the same or go and manage somewhere like Turkey.


 

 

 

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28 Sep 2017 22:09:13
I just wonder, how can a manager watch that display and not think 'we are far too slow and narrow'. Is Koeman just too stubborn or can he really not see that?

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26 Sep 2016 03:23:19
Pains me to say it Blue, but the reds are playing some incredible football! Difficult to admit it but Klopp is a manager I cannot help but admire.

What I have to say is how much of a fan I am of the offensive pressing game. The three teams dominating this premier league (Man City, Liverpool, Tottenham) are sides who play a high tempo, high fitness and high press 4-1-4-1.

This is a tactic, not only I feel we could adopt but is a tactic Ronald Koeman is striving for! Unfortunately as it stands Idrissa and Mirallas (if you watch the games you see it! ) are the only 2 players willing to press from the front.

Thankfully I have absolute faith in Koeman to work his quality in to the side to pull this out, and I genuinely believe we could be a top 6 side this season!

I've been on the beers so feel free to ignore my optimism.

We lost to Bournemouth, yes, but United lost to Watford, and the red shite lost to Burnley.

Have faith blues, believe me, we are back.

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15 Feb 2016 15:52:39
The main reason Spurs have proved to be so successful this season is down to their impressive work ethic and pressing game off the ball. Although Lukaku and Barkley are, in my opinion, invaluable to Everton Football Club in an attacking sense, and I would not like to think where we would be without Rom's goals this season, they simply do not show the same passion and willingness to defend from the front as Tottenham's front men. Even the likes Erik Lamela work tirelessly, not giving defenders a second on the ball. Players like Kane and Alli have proved you can still defend from the front for 90 minutes without sacrificing any of your attacking threat. Now I put this down to the fact that we have an inept manager and coaching team when it comes to fitness and defensive training. Teams find it so easy to work the ball in to their attacking players because our front men simply let them. I believe Martinez concentrates so hard on "perfecting" a fluid attacking game with the ball that he doesn't put the hours in on how to play football without the ball. There is no point in dominating football matches if you are not physically or mentally fit enough to handle the defensive side of the game.

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