24 Sep 2023 09:24:26
My mate is a Southampton fan, messaged me saying he can't believe holgate is starting, first ball comes to him, takes too long on the ball, gets caught and the other team score. Was taken off at halftime. Looks like Southampton won't be buying him, so back to us again and more wasted wages.


1.) 24 Sep 2023
24 Sep 2023 11:12:25
Just shows how bad our recruitment has been, but also our team selections. He’s struggling in the Championship, early days, I get that, but clearly no where near Premier League level.


2.) 24 Sep 2023
24 Sep 2023 11:45:38
At one stage I remember that he was touted as the new Stones but better…

Can only hope he hasn’t long left on his contract and we can loan him out again next season. Maybe to somewhere in Europe.


3.) 24 Sep 2023
24 Sep 2023 19:24:47
That lads confidence is shot. He's not as bad as everyone is making out. He needs a run of games to play himself into some form.
The championship is fast paced and physical, so he needs to adapt.
Don't get me wrong, he's long passed being an Everton player and does need to move on as do we. Issue is his contract which I don't know how long he has left.


4.) 24 Sep 2023
24 Sep 2023 20:06:55
Holgate came before the Moshiri days guys.


5.) 24 Sep 2023
24 Sep 2023 21:42:27
Judging by his comments when he went to Southampton I don't think his confidence is shot, more so that he has an extraordinary excess of confidence.


6.) 25 Sep 2023
25 Sep 2023 09:46:48
Agree TD he was always a liability in our defence we are far better these days mate.


7.) 25 Sep 2023
25 Sep 2023 23:29:48
Not always and he was initially thought well of.


8.) 26 Sep 2023
26 Sep 2023 10:11:08
Wasn't he one of a couple of bright young things that included Tom Davies at one time, remember that trouncing of Man City at Goodison?


9.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 17:25:04
It was only a few seasons ago that Holgate was playing really well for us. He was our best centre half, right back and defensive midfielder. His form went and then his confidence quickly followed. He has numerous chances to regain some form and confidence but it hasn't happened, his form now would struggle to get him on an intermediate team.
Unfortunately for us, Ben Godfrey has went pretty much the same way. Godfrey and Keane were taken right out of their comfort zones against Doncaster and struggled with their attacking players.

{Ed025's Note - if you think he has ever played really well you have a better memory than me Joe, i have always seen him as a liability mate..