23 Dec 2015 08:28:47
Wow Ed I really hope this is true about the takeover many many thanks for keeping all of us genuine fans with all the latest on this fantastic Christmas present, but as usual we get all the Doom merchants if only they would listen to people in the know, GuernseyBlue.

{Ed002's Note - John Jay Moores and Charles Noell are looking to invest in the soccer market and have the funding in place to buy the stake of present owner Bill Kenwight in Everton.

Bill Kenwight has granted a six week no fly zone around Everton to allow due diligence to be undertaken and discussions to be held on an exclusive basis. No doubt top of the list will be the stadium, but the investors are not going in to this blind and will already appreciate the situation. The outcome is unclear and I suspect Everton will not know either. I would throw my hat in the ring on the positive side and say that it can be done over the coming months with Bill Kenwright taking the role of club president (or something similar) for life.}

1.) 23 Dec 2015
23 Dec 2015 13:52:59
£200m apparently.

2.) 23 Dec 2015
23 Dec 2015 18:13:06
No Fly Zone? That's really going to p*ss some folk off :-)

3.) 23 Dec 2015
23 Dec 2015 18:50:07
Not sure about these guys. On one hand Moores is a close friend with President Carter who I have a lot of respect for and Moores also gives away a lot to charity. So all positive so far and let's hope that he continues his charitable work with Everton. On the other hand he is a business man who has made his money by buying and then selling companies for a profit. One of the companies that both Moores and Noell were involved with is Peregrine. If you read this article it describes issues with that company.

http://goo.gl/YCf0bd

The other concern is what happened with the 30% investment in Swansea FC that went belly up due to concerns by the Swansea Supporters Association. What were their concerns?
I know that the Moores and Noell group are doing due diligence on our club. Let's hope that our club has done due diligence on them.

{Ed002's Note - I think it is a tough thing to do to call someone in question because of their friends. Quite frankly with the posts I have been seeing they investors would be best of forgetting Everton and the toxic fans and look to a club where they would be appreciated.}

4.) 24 Dec 2015
24 Dec 2015 07:23:26
Spot on ed, this is what annoys me, too many unambitious fans who are scared of change in case "we might end up like Birmingham or Portsmouth". So? We are going to end up like them in the not too distant future when Goodison fails it's safety regulations and we ground share with Tranmere, our best players leave and we are unable to attract quality. They think we can stay a "top 8" side so to speak forever. Well when Palace, Leicester, Southampton, West Ham, Stoke and Swansea overtake us permanently along with a few others we will have fallen. Most clubs are evolving, we are not, highly ignorant to think we can keep floating above teams with better stadiums, managers and fans by buying shrewd bargains and selling at a high price forever. Ken and co stay, we go down and stay down in a couple of seasons, they don't, we may actually achieve something. Baffles me why so many fans want to stay as we are.

5.) 24 Dec 2015
24 Dec 2015 11:46:57
1940Mike I totally see where your coming from about Swansea. If it was that good of an investment why did they turn it down? I'd love to know their concerns about it because its a bit obvious that any club wouldn't want to turn away money.

Also why are they turning to Everton now? Swansea was obviously their preference so I'd be a bit suspicious that it seems they don't care what club they take over. Make you think would they care about what happens to Everton. At least with Bill we knew he was a true blue. I really appreciated what Bill done for the club when he took over. There wasn't a big queue of investors then.

That brings me to my next point. After all I said there about concerns with the takeover I have to agree with Ed and Swan. We should appreciate the interest and the positive sign of someone looking into investing.

1940Mike you mention the potential owners made money by buying and selling clubs. I'd look at that in a very positive way. It shows they can see potential for Everton to grow in value. They must have a good idea of how to achieve that otherwise they wouldn't be looking into buying the club. And they also have a good history of doing exactly that.

Also as I said before I trust big Bill and that he will do what's right for Everton. He said that before and I have no reason to doubt his word. I trust his judgment and believe he will do everything he can for the good of Everton.

All in all I think its a positive development and hopefully it will help our great club to challenge at the very top again. I'm sure we all want to see that and all would be delighted to see it happen.

6.) 24 Dec 2015
24 Dec 2015 15:58:01
Why the fascination with being second choice because if I remember rightly Man City owners came to us first but we turned them away, so I bet Man City fans were not bothered about being 2nd choice.

Everton fans need to get real, so what if they want a return on their investment. If you were investing big money in something wouldn't you want a return?

A lot of fans accuse our board of wanting something for nothing it looks like to me Everton fans are exactly the same.

7.) 24 Dec 2015
24 Dec 2015 16:30:02
they walked away from Swansea because after there initial 30% they wanted to buy another 30% making them owners which the Swansea chairman didn't want.

8.) 24 Dec 2015
24 Dec 2015 14:04:08
I wasn't saying I was against the take-over, just trying to give both sides of the picture with these two characters. As with most of these groups they do come with some baggage and it is ridiculous to ignore them. I think it is reasonable to assume that the club has done due diligence on the potential owners since it is imperative that the new owners are good for the club. I am ambitious for the club Swan but I do believe that after searching for new owners all this time that Kenwright must get it right when he finally sells. As supporters we can only wait and hope all turns out well.

9.) 24 Dec 2015
24 Dec 2015 19:07:23
you can't get any more baggage than earl and green hiding in the back ground if they do invest in us it'll be more of an investment that kenwright and Co have put into us.

10.) 24 Dec 2015
24 Dec 2015 20:18:44
Wow I didn't realise the Man City owners wanted to buy Everton.

The rest of your comment Mike S is exactly what I said before about the current board. Overall I think they done a good job. The value of the club has increased. As you say no one will work for nothing. The board deserve a return. As far as I know they haven't received much since they took over.

Received plenty of criticism and abuse for no real reason. As far as I remember when they took over the club was not in a healthy state. It certainly is now. Therefore they deserve credit and a payout. Can't see where people can say they haven't improved the club. To me it's obvious they have.

If the new owners are looking to make a profit all the better. Because they'll obviously have improved the club to make a profit. They also must be capable and in the know how to improve a club if its something they have done in the past.

Seems good to me but of course there's going to be concern's. You can't walk into anything in life without giving it consideration.

11.) 28 Dec 2015
27 Dec 2015 23:18:04
Ed002 1940 Mike only mentioned that John Moore is a friend of ex president Carter no more than that.
But, to the matter of what shares the americans are after. Anyone who thinks that Bill Kenwrights shares will satisfy is very, very mistaken. Nothing but a majority will do. The last thing they will want is opposition in the board room.
This is only my opinion, but I would think that they would want unanimous votes rather than majority. They may well appoint a board of directors to run the club but I would think they would be none voting positions with all decisions being made by Moores and his partners.