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30 Mar 2017 08:19:34
Hi Ed, any news on potential outgoings this summer. Namely Cleverly, Niasse, McGeady etc.

Thank you in advance.

{Ed002's Note - Hull have a cheapish option to buy Niasse at the end of his loan so we will see at the end of teh season. Lukaku will look to move on to achieve his goal of playing football at the highest level - Everton are at fault for screwing up the contract situation. Spurs interest in Ross Barkley has waned - we need to see if anyone pushes for him. Tom Cleverley has both Newcastle and Watford interested and Milan, subject to resolving another issue, want to make the loan of Gerard Deulofeu permanent.}


1.) 31 Mar 2017 11:00:00
Cheapish? I read a report that it was a £10m option so is that what represents cheapish?


2.) 01 Apr 2017 03:44:07
Cleverly has gone previous reports quoted 9 million which is a profit since we got him on a Free. Niasse is also in 8-10 million apparently. How did Everton screw up contract negotiations?
Ross was never likely to move I believe his agents are stirring the pot to get a better ideal, he loves playing for the Blues. just my opinion.
Wellzee.


 

 

07 Feb 2017 11:14:34
Ed's, anyone, any sign of existing players signing new contracts? Namely Barkley and Robles who's contracts expire in less than 18 months. Lukaku has a little over 2 years left on his and there was talk of him signing a new one before Christmas. Albeit from his agent who may have been trying to ignite interest.

These are 3 players I'd certainly like to see tied down. I'm sure there are probably one or two others that I'm not aware of whose coming to the end of their contracts also.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know about Robles, but Barkley was keen to get a new contract and expected to sign one before the summer.}


1.) 07 Feb 2017 12:29:13
Thanks for that Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}


2.) 07 Feb 2017 16:05:58
I was wondering the other day about Lukaku and his contract was said to be 99% done so did it get finalised and signed?

{Ed025's Note - not as far as i know ST, i heard it was close to being sorted but have had no confirmation yet mate..


3.) 07 Feb 2017 19:52:09
Ta muchly Ed.

{Ed025's Note - anytime mate..


4.) 08 Feb 2017 08:38:41
Read an article that Lukaku signed a contract last December earning over £100,000 a week and has a get out clause of £80m. It also said Chelsea are going to give that amount in the summer as Costa is going to China after the bust up with Conte.

What a load of ballony! As you say Ed025 he did not sign the contract last December. Shows how much the papers make up.


 

 

21 Jan 2017 23:49:48
There is no longer a top 6 in the premiership. There is a top 7 and we are in it. According to Pulis anyway. He's neutral so that's good enough for me.

Next I expect us to be a major force within that top 7. Going to be a good summer.


 

 

10 Jan 2017 22:48:10
Ed002 any info on the future of some players that possibly might be leaving Everton. Namely Gibson, Cleverly, McCarthy and the 2 that there are rumours about Niasse and Kone. Apparently Hull and QPR are their destinations.

Just wondering does it look like any leaving us this month? Happy with the way the incomings are developing. If we get MS it will be a good window even if its stopped at that.

{Ed002's Note - Niasse will almost certainly go to Hull. McCarthy interests Celtic and Crystal Palace with West Brom and Newcastle United probably out-muscled in their interest.}


1.) 11 Jan 2017 07:06:17
Niasse deal to hull almost done shame it's only on loan, But BBC report Scheiderlin deal done


2.) 11 Jan 2017 07:46:06
Thank you Ed002. I take it there is no real developments happening at the moment for anyone else.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained what I know.}


 

 

22 Jun 2016 23:24:26
Ed, any truth to Everton agreeing release clause for Sneijder? Seen some reports of £5.6m fee agreed.

Also what's the story with financial fair play? Technically are we allowed to have a net spend of the reported £100m we are supposed to be spending this summer.

{Ed002's Note - Southampton made an enquiry about Sneijder in December 2014 but didn't follow it up - although it substantiates that there has been interest from Kopeman in the past. Lazio have discussed him with Galatasaray but they have stepped back because of the wages being demanded. Their possible willingness to sell in the summer may be driven by a need to reduce wages rather than any transfer fee as he is still seen as an asset by the club - but the club has a European ban to deal with. Forget anything about any release clause. I am not aware of any firm interest from Everton at this time but it doesn't mean that there isn't.

The additional income is in next season's budget (starting July 1) and comes from the additional television money. If there is an issue it might be wages rather than transfer fees.}


1.) 23 Jun 2016 01:56:12
Thanks, Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


2.) 23 Jun 2016 09:08:01
Thank you Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - No problem.}


 

 

 

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15 Jun 2017 21:13:34
Ed, where is Klaassen's number one position? Seeing a lot of people on here saying he would be in midfield with Gana, Davies or Schneiderlin.

I thought he would be more Barkley's position? Maybe both but which is his primary position?

{Ed002's Note - He is an attacking midfield player.}


1.) 15 Jun 2017 21:39:35
Definitely not the same as Barkley then 😂.


2.) 15 Jun 2017 22:21:33
Hopefully the same only better Smit666!

Seriously though I'd love for Barkley to stay. Would be good healthy competition.

{Ed025's Note - if we sign sigurdsson he wont get in the side NBTB, even if its only klassen hes struggling for me mate..


3.) 15 Jun 2017 22:36:04
Agree Ed. I think he'll be off now, prob to Tottenham if they off load sissoko.

{Ed025's Note - he might struggle to get a higher club than us smit, and highly unlikely to find a better one mate..


4.) 15 Jun 2017 22:20:22
Just as I thought. Thank you Ed002.


 

 

03 Jun 2017 13:58:15
I'd like some people to explain their comments I'm seeing quite regularly on here. When talking about potential signings I see comments like 'if we are aiming for top 4 player x is not good enough'.

That comment baffles me and seems to me the people making them think the only way we would get into the top 4 or win something is by buying it. Not going to happen imho. We are 'well off' but still cannot compete with the financial clout of say Man City.

I'm not knocking the club and have praised recent efforts of bringing the club forward. Just mystified by some people thinking players are 'not good enough' for us because the don't cost £50m + million and play for the likes of Barcelona or Chelsea.


1.) 03 Jun 2017 14:58:54
I'm with you on this NBTB look at Gana £7mill and was so important for us last season, I'm looking forward to the names that Walsh has up his sleeve that will compliment our team but don't cost the earth yes maybe 1 or 2 20mill players but I'm sure out there are players who will wear the shirt and play for us no matter what its just finding them.


2.) 03 Jun 2017 16:23:05
At last some normal fans being realistic, until new ground is up and running we won't be splashing lots of cash our ground is at max with revenue, moshri is slowly increasing our revenue streams with the USM deal and new kit deal with is trebled the old deal but until we are in champions league and the ground is done we can't compete to buy the top players, we have to be clever and practical.
Sandro would be a bargain due to buy out clause, Pickford is a big risk at that sort of money, still would go with Hart as we can get him I feel and think he would come, I know this divides opinion but I would have Rooney still scored more than any of our players apart from lukaku, and anyone who thinks he does not make us better are playing to much fantasy football.


3.) 03 Jun 2017 16:39:31
Doesn't matter now how much city's owners have. They've set the club up to compete at the highest level financially within FFP rules. That's where we are lacking but are making progress, thanks to FM. I would like us to to be there as soon as possible. But here's the thing, even if we were able to spend massive, we would be one of seven teams competing for top top players. But as there's no CL for us we will just not get them.

So we get the gems instead and hope they are the right players to stick around long enough for us to break into top four and then get us some real marquee signings.


4.) 03 Jun 2017 18:02:51
All good posts above, positive I like it, GuernseyBlue.


5.) 03 Jun 2017 18:40:45
OP is spot on. We need to be buying the players with the most potential to improve. Lookman looks a world beater in his age group, we might have the next Ian Wright in him. We need to use our money to move forward not to win the next game.


6.) 03 Jun 2017 19:02:43
Blimey this is a first for a while all sensible positive posts. The current state of the cub is good and we are going in the right direction both on and off the field. A few sensible additions making us stronger, both in the short term but hopefuly a couple of longer term prospects would do for me. The future is looking very exciting for EFC.


7.) 03 Jun 2017 19:10:43
If only we can get players who want to wear the shirt and turn up for every game Tom Davies comes to mind, if they put in the same commitment as him I would be on happy bunny GuernseyBlue.


8.) 03 Jun 2017 21:07:17
All good posts. Like to mention Toffee Ace. I agree wholeheartedly with your post. That's what I was getting at as well in relation to FFP rules.

Also agree with everything Truebluemetz79. Only thing might not agree with is Hart but he would be an improvement with what we have.


9.) 04 Jun 2017 08:30:42
Good replies as usual NBTB, keep em coming mate, cheers GuernseyBlue.


10.) 04 Jun 2017 09:07:58
For us to be competitive next season we need quality players and in the peak of their playing careers. Money isn't important whether it's large or small fees being paid but the right type of player is.

City isn't a great model to use as they got the largest fine in history for breaching financial rules. However, Arsenal are and what they've done to compete is the blueprint we should follow.

They buy a couple of real quality players but also established players and that helps them develop over time. They should have kicked on by now but it's a tough league.

We need to keep investing in youth for the development team but our priority is exactly what Koeman said, we need players 26 upwards who are established and experienced that improve the team NOW not in 2 or three years.

As for the value? Who cares how much a player costs?


11.) 04 Jun 2017 09:44:53
Its a cycle that is hard to get into. To play champions league we need champions league players. Champions league players will not come unless we are in the champions league.

As I said its a cycle and a tough one to get established in. Imho the club is spot on with how to get in wit a mix of tactics which is starting to work imo.

Youth, signings that are value i. e. as pointed out by lee1887 above Gana for £7m. Along with quality players Bolasie £20m or £25m forget exactly how much it was.

The club went and got the best in the land to do this. Walsh is top dog to get the right players in. Our U23's won the league and the personel involved are probably the best in the land also as they are doing a fantastic job in supplying the first team with quality youth players. Example being Holgate and Davies to mention only a few.

Imho this is the way to go and I wouldn't turn my nose up at any players. We would never of signed the likes of Coleman or Gana if we done that in the past.

The main point I made in original post was people saying players are 'not good enough'. I don't care where they come from as long as they produce the goods. Doesn't bother me when we are linked to players who are deemed 'not good enough' as I have every faith in the team put in place to recruit.

My guess is there will be more Gana's signed who will improve things. Walsh, Koeman and co will pluck players out when not many can see potential. I'm delighted with this approach as it is more sensible, practical and prudent than trying to buy success. Which we couldn't do even if we tried.


12.) 04 Jun 2017 09:56:10
100% agree if the. players that are picked by RK And S W, that is good enough for me, they are the ones in the know, not any of us cheers mate, GuernseyBlue, ps interesting almost everyone. On here agrees just the odd few don't, game of opinions as we say.


13.) 04 Jun 2017 11:17:19
I don't disagree at all NBTB with what your point is. We are starting to move up into the same category as the teams above us. However, the majority of our fans think that to do that you must buy players that are £50mil to do it when in fact it's all about quality. You also have the other end of the scale where people want bargains all the time.

If we spend £50m great if we spend £5m great as long as both of them are quality players that improve the squad. The fans of the clubs that have been spending big bucks all these years don't even look at the prices being paid and are not concerned. We need to be more like this but clearly it's going to take time to change our way of thinking.


14.) 04 Jun 2017 14:45:56
I said the same about a year ago mate. People want "marquee" signings whatever they are. I pointed out Peter Reid, Kevin Sheedy, Graeme Sharp, Adrian Heath and the rest of that squad. None were "marquee" signings until Lineker arrived. then we won bugger all.


15.) 04 Jun 2017 19:16:28
Players come to us as quite low profile then are sold as marquee players for other clubs. We need to stop this cycle by getting the results in league standings that makes these players want to stay.


 

 

21 May 2017 18:00:56
I'd like to say how delighted I am with how much we have improved this season.

Scored 3 more goals, let in 11 less goals and got 14 more points! That is an improvement. Well done Koeman, Walsh and co. If we improve by the same next year we all know where we will be.

Strange season this. Arsenal got more points this season than last season. Finished second last year and 5th this year. Just thought I'd throw that in there.

Anyway future is bright. A lot brighter than it was last season.


1.) 21 May 2017 18:13:44
Good post NBTB. I guess last year Chelsea, Liverpool and man who were off their game. Normality resumed this season. I do think though with the right signings we have a chance of finishing higher than Arsenal, Man who and maybe even spurs with them moving to Wembley. Who knows but very promising season ahead.


2.) 21 May 2017 18:40:17
Great post NBTB, especially the Arsenal stat. I am happy we have stopped the slide. You of all people know I was sceptical after the Martinez fiasco. However. If we end up 6th next season and progress in the cups I will be delighted. We need to secure which players we have and want to hold and replace any who are leaving. re-evaluate the kids and see which ones are ready to make the step up. Then it is as simple as how we perform. But yes the future is 10 times better than it was.


3.) 22 May 2017 09:52:24
I'm my humble opinion, everton need to not only concentrate on upfront but in defence, i would try and get Gibson and smalling, I no smalling can be abit hit or miss, but I think with koeman being a defender he could really make him in to a great defender and with his extra height good for corners and attack, plus I like the thought of the city lad but I think Wilshire would be a cracking addition, when playing with good players he can be a fantastic player and hasn't been that injury prone this season.


 

 

11 May 2017 11:13:25
Good bit of business tying Mirallas down to a contract. With plenty of outgoings inevitable this summer its brilliant news for the club.

Even though I have been critical of Mirallas on occasion its good for club. I expected big things from him when he came. For me he hasn't completely lived up to them. Hope he does over the coming years.

There is plenty other players I'd see go than him. Will be crucial for us to have decent size squad with Europe next season.


1.) 11 May 2017 13:28:40
After RKs press conference it seems that he's had enough of Barkley not signing his new deal yet. He has 1 week to sign or be sold. Good enough too.

He also didn't seem all too bothered by it either. Obviously has plans in place should he decide to go.

My own opinion is I'm a little disappointed that he hasn't made up his mind. Should be more decisive and let everyone know and plan for the future. Although I'm pretty sure that plans are already afoot. With or without his decision.


2.) 11 May 2017 15:00:53
I honestly wouldn't be too upset if he left, on his day he's a world beater but those days are too few and far between. If we could do a deal on sigurdsson to replace him I'd be very happy. Much more consistent performer, wish we had the money to buy him when he left Spurs.


3.) 11 May 2017 16:40:28
With Europe next year imo we need as much talented players as we can. There will more than likely be a good few players coming in as it is. No need to replace Mirallas now. Good players are hard to come by.

I agree he is not consistent but it would not be easy to replace him with as good or better player than he is.

{Ed025's Note - that would depend on a couple of things for me NBTB, if he is committed to the club even though he may not be a regular starter, and how much would we get for him to purchase a replacement mate..


4.) 11 May 2017 18:41:04
Exactly Ed025. Imho he is worth more to us than selling. He's 30 this year. Could we expect anymore than £10m? I doubt it. Might not even get that.

I think he is committed. If / when he signs I guess that's a commitment in itself as he will more than likely finish his career at Everton. I expected big things when he came because he showed good promise. For some reason it didn't take off. Maybe next season.

{Ed025's Note - i keep saying that though NBTB, he has oodles of talent i think but lacks application..will the real kevin mirallas please stand up..


 

 

05 May 2017 15:04:14
Coleman ya absolute legend! Now there is a top player not afraid to commit his future to Everton.


1.) 05 May 2017 18:21:26
Class move from your club as well, the lad needs support and that's what he's got, I suppose many would have waited to see how well he recovers. Nice one.


2.) 05 May 2017 19:31:08
Good shout that NBTB top top player, GuernseyBlue.


 

 

 

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27 Jun 2017 16:24:40
I agree Smit666 there is a certain element of that. I'd be very much in the same line of thinking.

On the other hand he is only human like us all and like us all he makes mistakes. If he stays I won't be one of his boo boys. I'm sure there will still be plenty of them though.


 

 

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27 Jun 2017 13:53:11
Hope to god your right Bluey79 and he signs. I know footballers are well looked after but seems there someone influencing Barkley. At 23 that can be easily done on someone depending on their personality. I know I could be told anything at 23 and I more than likely would believe it.

Good for Barkley and the club if he signs. Not sure how things will develop with Koeman though.


 

 

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25 Jun 2017 22:23:45
Probably will be back in with more Southern Toffee. £30 - £35m more than likely. Be big addition to the team.


 

 

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25 Jun 2017 22:22:34
Fitting in? Never. Living in China? Possibly. Hell I'd live on the moon for money like £500,000 a week. You think he wouldn't consider moving to China for one or two years for that kind of money? Imho Colleen wouldn't mind one bit. Why would she?


 

 

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25 Jun 2017 13:47:26
One vital fact Barkley is 23 and Sig is 27. If your comparing players this has be a big factor. I'll admit at the moment Sig would probably make the team before Barkley.

He is a quality player and would improve us. We shouldn't be hung up on money but I can't help myself. Don't like to see the club I support squandering money simply because its not a bottomless pit of money the club have. I like to see it well run just as much as doing well on the pitch.

Sig is quality, £40m seems a bit much as he is medium term not long term. Barkley is very much long term. Saying that I will obviously support him if he comes and be delighted despite whatever he costs.


 

 

 

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27 Jun 2017 08:58:22
Ok Ed002 if you can't understand the simple point I was making that's fine. My understanding of the finances are fine and have nothing to with the point I was making. I think that's where your having trouble.

I'm not talking about just me being put down by you. It's a regular theme with your posts. That's why so many on here get annoyed with some of your put downs when you post.

We all appreciate and value your tremendous input and knowledge but that doesn't mean you need to put people down or even comment on people when they are discussing certain topics.

{Ed002's Note - They get annoyed because they don't like the answers to questions. They don't wish tyo know more but want their little fantasy football thoughts gently stroked.}


 

 

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27 Jun 2017 08:21:23
How do you know how much I understand the finances Ed002?

You remind me of my father. I'm very fond of him but given just a sniff of a chance to put someone down he'll do it as much as he can. Even when he doesn't get the point the person is trying to make. I don't hold it against him. Its just his generations mindset and way of carrying on.

{Ed002's Note - You posts demonstrate that you have no grasp of the finances whatsoever. It is not me putting you down, it is me wasting my time telling you that your posts about money are complete nonsense.}


 

 

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26 Jun 2017 22:42:34
They can think what they want Ed002. I can only speak for myself.

Basically I was saying I don't mind the club spending big as long as they can afford it.

That ok? No figures mentioned at all there. It seems this has been a topic the last couple of days with the Sig rumours flying around.

{Ed002's Note - It is not as simple as "affording it". You need to get out of this financial mindset or understand the finances better.}


 

 

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26 Jun 2017 22:30:57
Yes Ed002 there was more to it than the bit you highlighted there. Just because I said 'I'd be delighted if the club spent £500m' doesn't mean it stops there.

In the context of the conversation we were having it was appropriate. It was hypothetically speaking because I was saying I don't like Everton spending big. My point was as long as they stay within their means I don't care how much they spend. £500m was me being purposely exaggerated to get my hypothetical point across.

I understand FFP rules fine. I wasn't bringing it in to get my point across to the posts above mine. Perfectly aware that Everton will not be spending even half of that figure. It was just the way the conversation went.

{Ed002's Note - What the hell sort of point are you making NBTB? The fans truly thought Moshiri would be giving £200M per window plus sales for transfers. This is why we don't talk about money.}


 

 

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26 Jun 2017 20:48:16
Ed002 I never said the club COULD spend £500m. You seem unable to grasp my point.

{Ed002's Note - "I'd be delighted if the club spent £500m this summer." were your words. How would that be possible - just share how Everton could possibly do that.}