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15 Jan 2017 18:39:51
What a performance what a result.
City will never win the league again IMO with Pep 'one dimensional' Guardiola in charge.
I would much rather have RK at the helm rebuilding our club than this fella.
Had it easy at his last 2 jobs with no real competition and he now knows what we knew after 3 years with our Spanish fraud, possession doesn't win matches goals do.
Never been a fan of Pep and always thought he would falter in the EPL and its looking like I may be right.
Anyways onwards and upwards blues and the shape RK wants, looks like it is taking shape nicely.


1.) 15 Jan 2017 19:14:52
The Premier League sorts them out.

2.) 15 Jan 2017 19:29:34
Don't write him off just yet boys he is a world class manager I'm sure he will turn it around

3.) 15 Jan 2017 19:47:35
I agree he is a class manager however it does also show that in the Premiership there isn't such a huge void between the top two clubs and the rest of the league, here there are 6 teams currently all vying for the title and there are the other 14 teams who can take points of you!

It's a tough job in the Prem!

4.) 15 Jan 2017 19:52:29
He is still one of the best managers in the world regardless of this loss, to compare him to Martinez is not realistic, if you don't see that then you need watch more of his teams and what he has done before he came to the premier league.

5.) 15 Jan 2017 21:56:59
I see man who cannot adapt his philosophy in real time during games.
When they went 2 down he did nothing to address the way his defence was set up.

I'm not Mourinhos biggest fan but today his United side were creating chances yet were getting closed down by lpools pressing, so what does he do? He changes it so they play more direct to counter the pressing style. That to me is how to manage a game.

City continued to try and walk the ball in against us and didn't change at all.
Some say he is great, I say the Barcelona side was set for him by Rijkaard and by an influx of talented players coming through at once and then at Bayern, well he didn't really have much competition in that league.

Is he faring better than his predecessor? So far I think not and with a defence set up like the way he likes it then City won't keep many clean sheets.
I just don't buy the great manager hype around him.

6.) 15 Jan 2017 22:23:22
Pep has a touch of Martinez . Catalan, possession based football and stubborn

7.) 15 Jan 2017 22:24:44
Should we be bothered about other managers, no let's be excited about the young talent we have and keeping them grounded . Who cares about pep? Not me

8.) 15 Jan 2017 22:51:51
Everton should remember though one great game doesn't mean we are back to being great

9.) 16 Jan 2017 09:33:45
I agree King, what is the point in having a go at other Managers or Teams. Concentrate on our own. Great result yesterday but one game does not make us a great side suddenly.

What it does look like is that Koeman is getting us and to me he looks ahead of schedule, but two years he said and two years it will take. Best game I have seen us put together this season, unlike others I think that system suits Koemans style of play as well.



17 Dec 2016 11:51:36
With the Depay rumours not going away does that signal the end of Delboy/ Kevs Everton career? If i had to choose one to lose i would have to go with Del as i just can't see him flourishing. don't get me wrong he has talent and ability but he just doesn't seem to have the mentality and commitment to match it.


1.) 17 Dec 2016 15:09:37
Yeah an kev does hahaha there has never been a player who has had so much talent like kev has an has simply done nothing with it. At when geri does play he does create chan.

2.) 17 Dec 2016 17:00:59
Geri is also 5 or 6 years younger.

3.) 17 Dec 2016 17:06:22
Does more when on the field by way of tracking back and offering the lone front man support so yes again i would keep Kev.

4.) 17 Dec 2016 18:11:09
He is 5 or 6 years younger but has the stamina of a man 10 to 15 years older.
I feel this season he has not done enough to convince the manager he is a player worth keeping and that is maybe down to his attitude.
This was questioned and highlighted when he was at Sevilla and could possibly be the same here.

5.) 17 Dec 2016 22:46:43
Yes bluegray his attitude is in question but for me that is pretty much his only downfall.

He is still very young with huge potential. I would rather keep him purely because he may still make it. His attitude could and can change. If that does happen then all else would more than likely fall into place.

This argument of his stamina was brought up before. But only a few games ago he played a whole game and was skipping by players at the end of it. Which signals to me that his attitude is more of an issue than his stamina.

I will agree Mirallas is better at tracking back but he is getting on. Couple more years left. Where as Del has around 10.



13 Dec 2016 23:28:54
Great performance and the lads battled all over the field.
One thing i noticed at the end was Rom walking off alone whilst all the other lads celebrated at the other end.
He showed some fight today Rom and won a few headers but the celebrations at the end to me showed unity and clear team spirit to which he was not involved in or even interested in.

Sorry to come across negative lads after a great win but just thought that with a few of us mentioning that maybe something wasnt right behind the scenes with our recent run of results, that the ego could be causing the unrest.

Not for the first time this season he was arguing with Seamus after Seamus tried to take a quick throw that he wasnt alert to.
Yes he scores goals and that we will miss when he goes but i for one won't miss the standing in offside positions constantly after losing the ball.
Anyways tonight was immense, my throat is raw and Clattenberg is still a biased redside.


1.) 14 Dec 2016 11:58:48
Also noticed Rom walking off alone with virtually no acknowledgement to fans.
We saw the best and worst of him tonight. Finally chasing the ball down on a few occasions, won a few headers (though still not enough considering his size) and when he knocked it past Koscelny and just ran him was Rom at his awesome best.
However, his first touch yet again was poor and there were numerous occasions when he spent more energy on blaming those around him than fighting for the cause.
He is a great finisher when through on goal but average in other ways and clearly doesn't help with the team spirit.
Whether he goes in January or the summer (and he will) i just hope we replace him with someone who plays for the team rather than himself.
But that said and done it was a superb team performance and showed just what they are capable of. COYB.

2.) 14 Dec 2016 12:01:07
Or he could have just been shattered.

3.) 14 Dec 2016 15:02:23
Shattered is no excuse to not acknowledge supporters or join in with your team mates not buying that as an excuse the whole team put in a hard shift yet still managed it.

4.) 14 Dec 2016 17:10:30
I thoughts he clap the crowd. Is this a witch hunt. Some people eyes he can't do right whether he scored or not always looking for the negative. I believed you should just back anyone in a blue shirt who Koeman select. Replaced him with who? I think it a underlining agenda with certain people it must hurt you when he scored. I definitely know why you don't like him?

5.) 14 Dec 2016 22:55:36
Not a witch hunt at all. Its clear he doesn't want to be here and he makes no secret of that.
And whilst he is an Everton player yes i do support him, alls i was highlighting was the fact all the players including the ones that were subbed were celebrating and showing togetherness and yet he strolled off alone and no he didn't acknowledge the fans either.

Replace him with who you ask? Well that is not my decision but it will be a decision that will have to be made in the summer as he will be leaving that i can be sure of, and no I'm not claiming to be ITK i am just a realist.
Other than his goals which he needs putting on a plate for him he is not and never has been a team player and the Everton i have known and loved was always about unity and togetherness from front to back battling together, not standing with your finger on your lips telling your team mate to shush because he played a quick throw to initiate an attack.

So to sum it up yes i support him as an Everton player and cheer his goals but don't think much of him as a professional and whoever and wherever he ends up he will probably think he is to good for them too.

6.) 14 Dec 2016 22:59:25
Agree with you blue1959. Wish they would Stop witch hunting on players or we will only fuel a desire to leave. its a team game and he put in a fair shift like all the others. Mccarthy played great aswell and his hard in tackle aroused the fans and changed the game.

7.) 15 Dec 2016 09:37:15
Not sure it 'aroused' the fans always blue but it certainly got me excited!

And its not a witch hunt. How many times has Lukaku or his father come out and talked about how good he is, moving on etc.? He is a decent player but certainly not the world star he would have you believe. It was nice to see the effort he put in on Monday but surely that is the least we should expect every game. Unfortunately he often uses more energy pointing and complaining than actually chasing - though maybe you don't see that on the telly!

8.) 15 Dec 2016 23:17:32
Agree his father and agent are a pain in the arse but he's still our player and from were i sit he will get my support and not the crap that those around me give him. yep he's lazy at time but with support up front let's reap the benifitd before he probably does go. don't think anyone can assess a player on motd highlights.

9.) 16 Dec 2016 11:01:56
I made this assessment from a very nice viewpoint in the upper bullens so could see both ends of the field very clearly, and never rely on motd highlights be it home or away.

I don't give stick out at the game i was merely pointing out the unity shown by the lads at the end of a very hard fought win to which a certain player isolated himself from.

I have never questioned his goalscoring record, but his commitment and its clear by his body language he ain't part of a team its him and 10 others.
That was the point i was making about unrest in the dressing room attitudes like this have caused in the past.



02 Dec 2016 16:09:34
Ed002 the press are saying we are looking to sign a keeper in January, is this true and if so what keepers are actually available that are any good?


{Ed002's Note - January is a rotten time to look for a GK BG87 and whilst Everton might look in the summer it seems unlikely that something could be done now. In the summer, the likes of Hart and Begovic will be available. Maybe if they are looking it will not be for a first pick? So, apologies, I cannot really help.}

1.) 02 Dec 2016 19:17:46
Cheers Ed.

{Ed002's Note - If I hear anything I will let you know.}



07 Jul 2016 17:27:57
Any truth in Everton being in for FC Utrecht forward Sebastien Haller?


1.) 08 Jul 2016 00:01:55
Seems to have a good strike rate and available at a decent price.




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10 Jan 2017 17:04:17
Let's have a little assessment of the transfer window so far and compare it to our league position.

Let's start with 6th place Manchester United, they are currently 9 points ahead of us and are currently the form side in the league. have they recruited so far in the window? No.

Next let's look at the sides below us from 8th to 11th where we finished last season, West Brom, Bournemouth, Southampton and then Stoke.

Let's start with West Brom, they tabled a bid for Schneiderlein which United rejected and other than that have had no other real movements, are they currently better than us? League table suggests not, so without improving they may not be able to maintain there top 7 push add to that we have to play them at home after already beating them away and I can't see them being a threat.

Bournemouth next, a side we also have to play at home and a side who have just returned a loan player who was one of there better players so far this season. Have they bought anybody yet? No, are they going to catch us? I say probably not.

Southampton next, a side we recently beat 3 nil, have they improved so far this window? No, and in all reality they may get depleted by losting Fonte. So will they catch us? I don't think they will.

Finally Stoke, a side with a few decent players but the flair players they have are inconsistent and other than these players the rest are at best bang average. So have Stoke gone out and improved so far? No, add to that the 6 point gap we hold, so ask yourself honestly do you think they will catch us? I think not.

The point I am making after this long winded post is, we won't catch the top 6 even with incomings as these sides are currently the elite in the league. We are the best of the rest and even if we don't bring in players the fans demand, that will remain the same I believe, so ask yourselves, would I be happy with 7th come May?
I want us to improve of course, but I only want players that want to be part of our project and not mercenaries after a payday.

That's me done with my rant and maybe a few people will realise its a marathon not a sprint.


1.) 10 Jan 2017 17:41:21
Clap, clap, clap. Top post bluegray87 and I agree 100%. Puts things into perspective. People get excited by the thoughts of arrivals and get carried away.

2.) 10 Jan 2017 17:49:56
Blue is spot on, my thoughts exactly.

3.) 10 Jan 2017 18:28:20
Good post and you never know, maybe one of the top 6 will lose a bit of form and make it more interesting, if we can put a string of results together. Looking at the fixtures after the city game there are some winnable games up till the end of Feb, so let's hope we get 2 or 3 in, and a couple back from injury and Gana.

4.) 10 Jan 2017 19:16:56
I agree with most of the post. The only down side I see is that over the last few seasons, the so called top 6 have all strengthened incredibly. Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea have all improved their 1st teams so that not many of our players would get into any of those sides. What is even more frightening is that all those clubs have such strength in depth that their 2nd 11 players would probably mostly play a big part in our 1st team should we sign any. eg Depay and Schneiderline will be signed for 1st team action yet neither make Uniteds 1st team with any regularity. I see a top 6 developing that leaves the rest behind. This is a critical time in the future of Everton FC and we really need sustainable investment from the board and not just one or two season investment. Hopefully we will ensure that a top 7 breaks away from the rest. Fingers crossed.

5.) 10 Jan 2017 19:44:42
Good post Bluegrey. However, we don't want to stagnate as well. Bringing in players in each window is imperative and the more the first choice targets there are the better.

We are in catch up mode from the summer against the top 6 as they all bought well and early. Plus they already had better squads. We can't afford another window where we miss out on our targets.

6.) 10 Jan 2017 19:56:04
Excellent post bluegray, great summary.

Degsy - there was a top 4 not long ago that started to break away, but that's become a top 6 over the last few years through investment and ambition. We now have that investment and ambition, so who's to say we won't be part of a top 7 in the next two seasons? I for one would like to think we can be.

Lots to be positive about as a blue at the moment. More optimism and less impatient pessimism from people wanting us to shell out tens of millions on average players.

7.) 10 Jan 2017 20:13:00
*about being a blue

8.) 10 Jan 2017 20:35:16
Very good post.



07 Jan 2017 17:03:04
So we exit the Fa cup at the first hurdle as we did the league cup and its 22 years and counting now. What this result highlights today is that we need to be patient as the rebuilding work is done.

We will get players in this window and now without the FA Cup the players will get rest periods. not that i want to look at it this way but its happened so we move on.
City next week and if we get behind the lads and have Goodison bouncing we can get a win.

Let's try and keep the feel good factor that we have had on this site lately going and look forward to the good times ahead.

Today was a disappointment and a few posters have probably been waiting for this so they can come on and spread the negativity, but let's remember, the manager said it will take 2 years to be where he wants us to be, and this is only 5 months.




02 Jan 2017 11:07:37
New Year and new sense of optimism for the year ahead.
I feel this calender year we will see are great club transform from a side that frustrates us and seperates us to a team we will all be proud of.
The infrastructure that is in place will see us release the players that do not fit our new model and bring in the players to take us onto the next level.

If for example we look at Tottenham, they have improved from being top 6-8 to now being considered challengers for Top 4 and maybe even title challengers.
We are maybe 2 full seasons not including this one away from being in this bracket.
Manchester City are a perfect example of having a superstar manager (allegedly) and superstar players, yet they do not function as a team.

This is why i don't want us signing players based on name alone if they are not going to function in our team.
The times they are a changing blues, but we need to be patient and support the players and management as each and everyone of them whether you feel are good enough or not, are doing a job in the rebuilding of our great club.
Lets not forget, we were born not manufactured.




31 Dec 2016 12:05:51
After Mourinho came out and said Depay will be leaving in January and they have a real offer they will accept, is our club his destination and is he the first signing in the window? Any info?




18 Dec 2016 17:51:17
Mike dean has given more penalties this calender year than clattenburg and moss put together. My money is firmly on one being awarded tomorrow.
The last game of ours he officiated was against Wigan and sent Duncan Ferguson off.

I have my tail up with referees and corruption and biased from F.A to field and the decision to allow a man from the Wirral to officiate a derby will leave them wide open to criticism if a game changing call is made.

This remember is the same man who had the 2006 cup final taken from him because Liverpool were involved, so what's changed?


1.) 18 Dec 2016 18:22:07
Not his biggest fan tbh but I believe he is down as a Tranmere fan. I can see why the final was taken off him as the Wirral is too close when you're playing a team from the capital.
My biggest concern in regards to the ref is that he is a touch card happy, not the best attribute you want a ref to have in a derby game. Think he sent off 9 players last season, the highest tally in comparison to the other refs, and has shown red 3 times this season, joined by one other. Hope he doesn't show a yellow in the opening stages as it will stifle the game.
Anyone know if it is a rumour started on social media that his kids are red season ticket holders? Not sure if that would really mean anything even if it was true.

2.) 18 Dec 2016 20:57:40
Think its social media rumours spud as its down that his son has a season ticket at anfield but then another poster states he has 2 daughters.
With the appointment of Dean as the official it would be best to stick with Barry on the bench.

3.) 19 Dec 2016 00:10:03
Cheers for clarifying BG, I thought it would have originated on twitter or the likes. I think you may be right on keeping Barry on the bench. I think it may be better to play Holgate than Mori, the latter can be rash in the tackle at times, his tackle in a previous derby proves as much. We don't want to be down to ten men against that lot.

4.) 19 Dec 2016 09:50:06
Think Holgate is a good shout especially with the pace and movement of their front 3.

5.) 19 Dec 2016 12:45:00
I'd feel better with him in rather than Mori for this game. MH's composure would edge it, Mori gets involved in the occasion and gets too hyped. Not that bad an attribute to have but, taking into account the ref for the game, I'd rather have the safer option.

6.) 19 Dec 2016 22:18:28
Totally agree spuds. Koeman must be 1 very frustrated man, we need 3 or 4 new players in January to shake it up going forward, we didn't have 1 shot on target in that 2nd half which is pathetic.




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18 Jan 2017 13:56:52
This kid is highly thought of by City supporters who believe he should have been given a chance by now due to there defensive woes.

Apparently we would be getting a very talented young defender if we pull this off.
My personal opinion is city will give him a new deal and loan him out to get valuable experience rather than sell due to the talent he has.




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15 Jan 2017 21:56:59
I see man who cannot adapt his philosophy in real time during games.
When they went 2 down he did nothing to address the way his defence was set up.

I'm not Mourinhos biggest fan but today his United side were creating chances yet were getting closed down by lpools pressing, so what does he do? He changes it so they play more direct to counter the pressing style. That to me is how to manage a game.

City continued to try and walk the ball in against us and didn't change at all.
Some say he is great, I say the Barcelona side was set for him by Rijkaard and by an influx of talented players coming through at once and then at Bayern, well he didn't really have much competition in that league.

Is he faring better than his predecessor? So far I think not and with a defence set up like the way he likes it then City won't keep many clean sheets.
I just don't buy the great manager hype around him.




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06 Jan 2017 13:07:22
I think RK preferred backline is with a back 3 so we need legs at the back so i can see Galloway being given a chance next season on the left side of the 3 with Holgate on the right of the 3. We then need a strong central defender which seems to be Williams this season but he isn't the future.

So i can see why we wouldn't want or need Fonte as we would then have a player approaching 34 next season with no resale value who will not be getting game time.

VVD would be the ideal candidate but can't see that happening personally.
If we did pull it off that would be a good young footballing back 3 that could be the future of our club and the foundation to build upon.




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01 Jan 2017 18:28:17
Are we in for Memphis Depay?




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23 Dec 2016 09:38:58
So looking at that list its no wonder we ain't in it as there would be no point even trying to compete with them clubs, yet.





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20 Jan 2017 23:01:21
Gerry's attitude is just not right and he feels he should be the starman because he came through at Barca.
His attitude was questioned at Sevilla, he was allowed to leave Barcelona and now RK has had enough. Surely it is a problem with him as a person not as a player, although his fitness is woeful.
I don't believe we will see him in a blue shirt again and I for one won't really miss him.




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20 Jan 2017 09:19:02
Top post that Degsy.
Got to say I never used to enjoy reading your posts as they tended to be repetitive, but lately i have enjoyed reading not only posts like this one but also the witty ones.
Keep it up mate.




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17 Jan 2017 05:26:06
Baines replacement is on loan to WBA, Brendon Galloway.
When he played last season when Baines was injured he never put a foot wrong and all that was missing from his game was his crossing ability.
I believe under a better coaching structure he will flourish and become our established LB in 2 seasons time.




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13 Jan 2017 15:19:36
Standing on the stands on Sunday and watching that young lad walk us out will make me even prouder to be an Evertonian.
Hopefully moneybags City will take note and contribute to the cause for this young lad.




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11 Jan 2017 18:20:41
I believe Cleverly, Gibson and McCarthy will be on the move if the offer is right. Morgan is an upgrade on all if these players and will be the partner for Gana, with Barry and Davies as cover