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18 Sep 2018 11:48:50
As the post mortem on Saturday seems to be continuing I thought I would add the simple truth: TOO MANY CHANGES! Yes it is complicated, but the facts are simple. We have changed too many things in such a short time. I am not blaming the manager because I feel he is taking us in the right direction. But we have been a victim of: 2 sending offs. and thus suspensions. Injuries to 7 1st team players. Players coming back from injury who the manager feels should start. Young players trying to force their way into the team. Tactical changes. All of this adds up and the team that played Saturday did not look like the previous weeks team and that one did not look like the one before that etc. We need to get our players all back and let the manager pick the same team for a few weeks running. Then we will know what our squad is really like. We have been very unfortunate on a number of issues, but compare it with last season and the run of games that bored us all to death. We are a WORK IN PROGRESS. Anyone who expects instant success is just being silly in my view!


1.) 18 Sep 2018 14:52:29
Well said work in progress the summer was good business but people have to remember it was his first window and we probably shifted a lot more out than I though we woul be able to and made signings I didn’t think we could get.
A lot of Silva/ Brands signings have not played much yet and some not at all, I just hope Mina can be are powerhouse at the back as I think it will help Keane, holgate and zouma better we need a leader back there, we got bullied on Sunday.

2.) 18 Sep 2018 17:06:25
What is worrying though is Zouma and Gomes are on loan, while Mina has a buy back clause in his contract, that’s three players we have no control over.

{Ed002's Note - There is control over Yerry Mina - "buy back" clauses do not m,ean that Barcelona can simply pay Everton and they have to send him back. Plus, given the outrageous price Everton paid for him I don't see any chance of him going back in the short to medium term.}

3.) 18 Sep 2018 17:53:10
Excellent post degsy mate, too many managers on here, once we get the injured and suspended and settled in with the newbies we will climb the table, give the guy a chance this won't be fixed in 6 months.

4.) 18 Sep 2018 18:48:21
I'm sure ed will correct me but isn't the buy back clause about twice what we paid for him so something about 70 mil I for 1 hope Barcelona wish to try to use it because if he's playing good enough to warrant that fee it will be good for us.

{Ed002's Note - It is rather less than 70M in whatever currency you are thinking, but it is nothing to worry about, nor nothing to even think about. I would not think they would be interested when Everton come to sell the player on.}

5.) 18 Sep 2018 18:53:37
Cheers ed.

6.) 18 Sep 2018 21:45:06
On Gomes, I believe Barcelona wanted permanent deal before agreeing to loan, so even if he is successful we probably will be able to sign him. Problem is if other teams come in for him. Zouma may seek permanent transfer after seasons end. Depends what Chelsea can off in terms of 1st team football.



08 Aug 2018 13:40:50
Drinkwater now linked. Would be great for us.


1.) 08 Aug 2018 13:54:37
He's slower than a slug. Do we need another slow midfielder?

2.) 08 Aug 2018 14:49:18
Not exactly the powerhouse box to box midfielder that typically plays in Silva’s systems is he?

3.) 08 Aug 2018 15:32:09
He can do the Shnieds job much better great sighning.

4.) 08 Aug 2018 17:20:38
He's been terrible for Chelsea when he's managed to get on the pitch.

5.) 08 Aug 2018 21:13:56
Had one good season next to Kante but nothing since.

I would like him to do well being an English player and this is the sort of player that we could attract but I don’t think this wasn’t another case of Chelsea ruining an English player, he just wasn’t good enough in the first place, not for us and certainly not for champs league and title contender team.



08 Aug 2018 13:39:32
One bit of banter that seems to have escaped us is there are rumours that Kenwright is about to quit. That would allow the 2 ex Arsenal money men take over completely. I would like to thank Kenwright for always putting the club first and being the best Chairman in the Premier League by a country mile!


1.) 08 Aug 2018 15:00:29
Agree wholeheartedly mate, never has there been a truer Blue than Bill, I thank him from the bottom of my heart for what he done for our Club,

2.) 08 Aug 2018 18:51:27
Defo. He (along with Moyes) turned round the fortunes of our club. I dread to think where we'd be now if he hadn't taken on the job. (I say "job", it's clearly always been a passion project for Bill! )



20 Jun 2018 21:36:00
Ok to try and put a realistic view on it some facts: World Cup Final is 15th July. The transfer window closes early this season on August 9th. That is just over 3 weeks. Although we may sign players from teams knocked out, it is unlikely that we will be signing players still involved until after 16th July. In fact any negotiations with players are likely to start on or after 16th July. That leaves 23 days to make signings. I expect that is when Everton will start things really moving and why I have posted previous posts. Remember that other teams might also be waiting to see if they can get certain players in the same way as we are, so the first few days after the world cup is likely to be a scramble with players having a few choices of clubs. Some in Europe and some not. That's when I expect us to start making announcements. probably around 20th July and onwards.


1.) 20 Jun 2018 22:49:54
Nothing to stop clubs granting permission before agents thrashing out the initial part of negotiations and then some teams will probably allow discussions on rest days whereas others may not
Just have to see what can be done.

2.) 21 Jun 2018 08:08:41
There's also plenty of good players who are not at the world cup for us to look at too. Probably best to hold on for a bumpy ride until the window closes.

3.) 21 Jun 2018 09:22:06
It's worth noting that 16 teams can do business from the 28th June. 8 more on the 3rd July. 4 more on the 7th July and 2 more on the 14th July.
We can also buy an English player after the final.

4.) 21 Jun 2018 15:38:03
Very droll smit. We actually look good so far while big teams struggle. Who know how far we can go.
Also fred has just completed his move to man Utd so we can sign players who are active at world cup. Seatbelts on for roller coaster couple of months.



20 Jun 2018 14:13:40
I wonder if ED002 can help with a question that relates to some of my banter posts. I don't wish to appear a know it all, but some posters on here have been talking about getting rid of 11 or 12 players and signing of many players. I did a couple of posts saying that it would be highly unlikely that we offloaded more than 2 or 3 senior players due to lucrative contracts and players unwillingness to take salary reductions. Added to which, after the world cup there is less than 2 weeks to tie up deals with the transfer window closing 2 days earlier this year. My question to Ed is, "Do you know if there are any senior players likely to leave and are there any players in current discussion with Everton at an advanced stage? " and I think I can guess the answuer to part 2 of my question.


{Ed002's Note - This lust of players that are available is the same as I gave acouple of days or so ago. You are right about the mine, as the club will be paying up to $75k for Rooney and £xM for having three managers on the books still.}

1.) 20 Jun 2018 14:30:03
Sorry didn't see your other post Ed002. Wow we are still paying Rooney that much? And 2 previous manager salaries! Plus which players would be happy to take a step down and a salary reduction? I think Everton have had too much turnover of staff in recent years and tied themselves up in contracts galore! I will have a look for your previous post. Suffice it to say, I expect little change in the staff at Everton.

2.) 20 Jun 2018 23:27:03
You don’t get to be a billionaire by making daft business decisions. If Moshiri has made mistakes, he’ll have learnt from them. Give the new set up a chance. Some players will leave. Even if we are paying a percentage of their wage, it still reduces the overall wage bill. Rushing into signings is what got us into trouble last season.

3.) 21 Jun 2018 12:28:36
but the 75k I take will only be for one year? As it makes no sense to pay that amount for the 3 years reported as it would cost us less to keep him for 1 year on his full salary.




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16 Sep 2018 22:51:29
I said I would wait until 5 games in before commenting on our progress. I expect some of you will be expecting me to be highly critical. well actually, I feel we have made progress to the point that we are lacking in a few areas but are not far off being a decent team. Re todays performance and result. it was always going to happen. West Ham lost opening 4 but we know they are not terrible and have some decent players. We had players suspended for errors of judgment that seem to have gone unpunished with players of other teams. We had loads out injured and a midfielder who's Dad died last week and tried to perform but just couldn't. The bottom line is we keep conceding 2 or 3 goals and no matter how hard the players try, we won't win many games when the defence is so leaky. Someone else mentioned that the kids of Holgate, Kenny and Calvert-Lewin are not yet ready. I tend to agree that to have all 3 in is asking too much. But my worry is that we still seem to also be lacking a center forward who can score goals. Tosun had a few chances again without ever looking like he would score. I am not sure what has happened to the player we signed, but the Besiktas supporters loved him? All I can say, is that when we get Richarlison back and some of the others out injured, we will hopefully tighten up. I have to say that Schneiderlin's continued presence in the team baffles me. especially ahead of the hard working Tom Davies. although I guess his maturity was a reason? But like Leon Osman has just said on MOTD we are lacking the center forward. let's hope we can tighten up and stop conceding and Tosun or Niasse can start banging them in. We had 16 shots today, that's more than in 16 games last season!


1.) 17 Sep 2018 07:12:16
first 5 games looked easy Osman was right we've not replaced Luka.

2.) 17 Sep 2018 07:26:57
Agree with most of that Degsy. Maybe Tosun needs a couple of games out and try richarlison in the middle.

3.) 17 Sep 2018 11:22:51
Liverpool fan here

Why not try Walcott up top? He is a striker after all!

4.) 17 Sep 2018 19:31:17
He's our only right sided winger perception.



11 Sep 2018 09:41:27
This is rather a delicate post that I have to be careful how I write this and how it might be percieved. I have always been one of those "bitter blues" as we are sometimes called by our friends across the park. However, I was pleased when as a club we offered our full support over the Hillsborough tragedy. Something that surpassed the importance of football. Yet I also struggle with "our" European ban in the mid 80's caused by the Heysel disaster and subsequent failure as a club to rebuild. Well, my Grandson recently went to a club visit and did the tour at Goodison. He was told that when we achieved our 100 years of top flight football, we wrote to all the clubs of the league asking for a momentum or something relevant for our history to display in our trophy room. Apparently every club in the league responded and sent us something to display except for one club! I don't think I need to name this club, but it left yet another bitter taste in my mouth. I wonder how some of our neighbours feel if this is true?


1.) 11 Sep 2018 10:19:45
This is true I did the tour and was told the same by ex player Mark Higgins. This is why they will win more trophies than us but will never have our class!

2.) 11 Sep 2018 10:37:01
Very poor from Liverpool. Why has it got anything to do with Hillsborough or Heysal? The things aren’t related I have seen various things between clubs throughout the years such as ticket allocation being unfair.
We can not compare these things.
Hillsborough was a disaster for the city. We all supported each other throughout.
Heysal is in the past and UEFA banned all clubs. We have got to be bigger than that and live in the hope that we will have our day soon. We still have a great history and can still be proud of the team from the 80’s.
Can’t live life saying what may have been, let’s look to the future with promise.

3.) 11 Sep 2018 12:04:45
Hysel and Hillsborough are two different situations. One caused by hooligans on both sides and another caused by corrupt and inadequate police force.

All clubs around Europe in the 80s had a high level of persons associated with them including us. We blame Liverpool but really every club who allowed these people to attend matches contributed. I remember some games at Everton and it was almost a battlefield. A game against Middlesbrough saw one of their supporters coaches on fire on Stanley Road. Middlesborough!

As for not sending us anything, it's their choice but I'm just grateful they keep cementing our position as the people's club of the city. What we do and what they do don't compare when it comes to community service and remembering the people who pay into the club's coffers.

4.) 11 Sep 2018 12:07:07
Heysel affected our club more than anyone including them and for that reason I for one will never forgive them.

5.) 11 Sep 2018 16:14:43
Bluejohn, you may also remember a final just a short while before Heysel in Rotterdam, just a very short time before nothing but praise from the Dutch Police, welcoming Everton fans anytime.

As they say a week is a long time in politics.

6.) 11 Sep 2018 17:25:26
It is bignev and I'm not saying Liverpool are innocent I'm just pointing out neither were we and we've had our moments.

I'm old enough to remember the persons we've had at our club as well. Gladly these days all of our clubs are much better behaved and have outstanding members of public like all of us on here. 😁😇 although, there is still minorities no matter what club it is.

7.) 11 Sep 2018 18:11:58
Not wrong there Bluejohn, some horrible scenes in the seventies and eighties, thankfully cctv and seater stadiums make it harder for someone to hide in a crowd.

Whilst on the subject I had a good think about the lack of item our neighbours did not send.

So let suppose they sent a memento of the first all Merseyside cup final-the milk cup, or the first all Merseyside fa cup final, any item they sent could be looked at as rubbing our noses in the item they sent.

I agree it was poor not sending a momentum but in the same breath it could have been received as having a pop at us, so I am sitting on the fence with this one.

8.) 11 Sep 2018 20:14:46
We lived in Liege at the time and I went to the game. My perspective is somewhat different to the bias reporting of the European Press at the time. Yes of course Liverpool (as most of our Clubs do) had their hooligans and yes there were some that instigated but there were far more either trying to stay out of it or trying to defend others. What I saw in an awful lot of black and white stripes hands were iron bars, knives and being used.

9.) 11 Sep 2018 20:31:55
ok that post started a discussion pretty well. I will only add that they were the ONLY club not to send anything out of the whole Football League and they were the only team who we supported after going through the most traumatic of events ever in football. So I can see why we should rise above it. but feel myself that sometimes there is one club with class on Merseyside and if the roles were reversed I would be terribly embarassed to be an Evertonian!

10.) 11 Sep 2018 20:55:56
Totally Agree Degsy. 👍.

11.) 12 Sep 2018 10:21:47
I did wonder if any of our neighbours would comment on this one as they sometimes do. I think if I was a red, I would be feeling quite uneasy about it and maybe even suggesting that LFC look at this "omission" and rectify it if it is not too late?



09 Sep 2018 16:20:50
Here's my take on the Ushmanov or whatever his name is story. Evertonians have been starved of success in recent years and will therefore grab hold of any rumour, story or idea that will maybe, possibly lead us back into the top 4 and thereafter hopefully a bit of silverware. The 2nd part of my view is that poor ED002 is completely fed up of Evertonians running over the various possible scenarios based on guesswork. People used to say I went on and on about Osman and other subjects. but I think even I have been surpassed on this one!


1.) 09 Sep 2018 17:15:01
There wouldn't be a link if there was no business partnership between him and our owner. There's nothing wrong with fans getting excited by the prospect of him coming in and helping out, fans at every club get carried away by rumours and speculation. But it is only a rumour and something to fill the news columns at this moment with nothing to give it any substance. Let the fans dream it may happen, there's no harm in that.

2.) 09 Sep 2018 18:10:08
There is no need for conjecture or conspiracy theories. Mr Moshri is not the owner but majority share holder. Mr Usmanov is already invested in Everton via Finch and Mr Moshri himself. Mr Usmanov as pointed out over and over again has far bigger fish to fry than us at this point in his investment acquisition. That is all I will say on this.

3.) 09 Sep 2018 19:15:41
Ktf u seem to know a lot about usmanov r u his love child or tell us how u know so much.

4.) 09 Sep 2018 19:28:07
I really don't understand why anyone really cares if Usmanov buys into Everton or not. I think that Moshiri is doing pretty well by himself, although with a rocky start. We have a new stadium on the horizon and the makings of a good management team and squad. Let's just enjoy what we have which is a lot better than the recent past.

5.) 10 Sep 2018 12:02:17
Exactly Mike some are just not satisfied with what we have some might even say it’s disrespectful to Moshiri
If Usmanov ever invests further then great but right now I’m enjoying what we have and looking forward to seeing the other new players getting on the pitch.

6.) 10 Sep 2018 16:07:52
It might be the 12 billion pounds moor he has.

7.) 10 Sep 2018 18:59:07
Degsyp you never were or never will be surpassed by your rambling on other subjects! Surprised no one else commented on that :-)

8.) 11 Sep 2018 21:01:58
Bluemike take a bow son! 👍.



29 Aug 2018 09:02:42
Message to all the guys and gals on here who have discussed a pint on previous posts. I have tickets for me and my lady for tonights game and am up in Llanberis for a few days. Plan a pint or two with the Plymouth branch in the Springfield down the road if get there early enough. Any of you guys/ gals welcome to join me. I don't have wifi on my phone but happy to meet randomly in the Springfield. Just look around for me. Black Everton tee shirt with club badge. Short and blond with blond lady. In my 60's now! Will be glad to say hello to any posters on here!




18 Aug 2018 14:41:54
Evertonians getting upset at Paul Merson for his comments on Richarlison. I am not sure why? Paul Merson's managerial career was laced with success wasn't it? What no? Guy talks absolute b******ks.


1.) 18 Aug 2018 14:49:50
That same Merson who had to wear a Gonzo suit last season because he bet Huddersfield would go down.

Let's not trust too much he says.




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09 Aug 2018 07:35:41
Yes sell once a replacement is sorted. Should have learnt that after the Lukaku and 5 number 10's episode!




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06 Aug 2018 10:02:21
Holgate will become a fine player. He is still much too young to be a commanding CH as yet though. 2 more years will show what he is capable of becoming.




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21 Jul 2018 18:31:03
Like I said in the banter post. it appears all the comments about Lookman being unhappy are coming from the Leipzig boss. I can only think he is trying to unsettle Lookman and Everton.


{Ed002's Note - Lookman wanted assurances and is now having to watch Everton hunt around for players in his position - the likes of Rebic, Malcom, Brahimi and Richarlison all being mentioned. He knows he can get first team football in Germany and certainly Trimboli has spoken to the likes of Southampton, Arsenal, Spartak and Crystal Palace as well as RBL.}



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20 Jun 2018 14:30:03
Sorry didn't see your other post Ed002. Wow we are still paying Rooney that much? And 2 previous manager salaries! Plus which players would be happy to take a step down and a salary reduction? I think Everton have had too much turnover of staff in recent years and tied themselves up in contracts galore! I will have a look for your previous post. Suffice it to say, I expect little change in the staff at Everton.




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27 Jan 2018 08:21:43
I think the club were shocked at Barkley's determination to leave. Especially as it coincided with Lukaku. That's are 2 top scorers and there was and obvious need to replace them both. We were then caught up in the shock of extra TV money causing an instant increase intop players values. so the likes of Sigurdson's fee of £45 million cames as a shock. Add into that Giroud mucking about. signing/ not signing and then the availability of Rooney and Klaasen. (Klaasen's fee being somewhat lower) . The whole lot was messy and poor. then Baines got injured. it is just all messy. but the dice didn't fall in the best way for us.





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13 Sep 2018 09:02:02
It seems some clubs have players that can collide with JCB's and be ok. Ours seem to bump into another player and instantly get injured? WTF is that all about?




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12 Sep 2018 10:21:47
I did wonder if any of our neighbours would comment on this one as they sometimes do. I think if I was a red, I would be feeling quite uneasy about it and maybe even suggesting that LFC look at this "omission" and rectify it if it is not too late?




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11 Sep 2018 20:31:55
ok that post started a discussion pretty well. I will only add that they were the ONLY club not to send anything out of the whole Football League and they were the only team who we supported after going through the most traumatic of events ever in football. So I can see why we should rise above it. but feel myself that sometimes there is one club with class on Merseyside and if the roles were reversed I would be terribly embarassed to be an Evertonian!




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09 Sep 2018 16:27:40
Davies is 20 years old for goodness sake! He broke into the team before his ears had dried out, scored a wonder goal and looked a very accomplished player. The team then struggled and he became part of a bigger problem at Everton FC. I struggle when I read such things. This is how to drive players away from Everton coming out with comments like this about a child! No wonder Rooney, Barkley etc wanted away as quickly as they could. How about thinking about such comments about a Blue who is working as hard as he can to get a regular place in the side rather than making crass statements like this. I can assure you the club are treating our youngsters in the right way by nurturing them through to 1st team football. Becausr he has not hit the headlines every game does not mean he is not good enough. certainly at 20 years old! Rant over!




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07 Sep 2018 08:03:41
All I was saying is that looking at league positions after 5 games can give you an idea of where you are but actually stating that we were in "X" position last season and we are "X+1" position this year is much too simplistic a deduction to make to prove improvement. But I agree you would have to be pretty thick not to see the obvious improvement in the squad. We are creating chances. We aew pressing. We are just a little untidy at defending set pieces so far.