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15 Sep 2018 00:03:59
ed002 did we tap him up as they call it or did we speak with his agent and put formal bids in for his services? i no we wer very public with our pursuit but was there anything illegal that u no of? from the outside it seems we followed the rules but i bow to your greater knowledge and u understanding of the rules mate.


{Ed002's Note - Everton made an illegal approach for him after Watford rejected a request to talk with him. Nobody is denying that.}

1.) 15 Sep 2018 11:33:54
thanks mate, poor from the club that.

{Ed002's Note - I would agree.}

2.) 18 Sep 2018 14:56:52
Nothing will happen other than slap on risk with fine, if they make an example of us by anything bigger like points deduction then they will open a big can of worms as tapping up has gone on for decades, and I would say most transfers are done with some form of tapping up.

{Ed002's Note - This is not the only tapping up investigation ongoing with Everton and the club has previous history.}



13 Sep 2018 09:58:19
some injury list we have at the minute but i am confident with our current squad we have plenty of cover if you include our 23s who we have available aswell we will still have pickford Kenny zouma holgate dinge, sniderlain Davies siggy Bernard lookman and tosun I would back that team to beat West ham.


1.) 13 Sep 2018 10:39:59
Bernard is injured isn't he?

2.) 13 Sep 2018 14:37:57
play dowell there then if needs be or anthony evans or give hornby a run up top go two up top, we have options in the club.



31 Aug 2018 23:21:39
why do so many people want james mcarthy to leave? once fit he starts every game in this system million percent. i think he is better suited to this system than gana but would play both as j mac can get forward as well.


1.) 01 Sep 2018 13:23:33
Time has passed injuries caught up and taken edge off him much like Besic sadly. Potential but never fully materialised. That said always gave 100% unlike so many of recent seasons.

2.) 01 Sep 2018 14:11:31
Taken edge off? How can people come to such conclusions when neither Besic or McCarthy have played for Everton since there horrific injuries. Fair enough if you want to sell them and you don't think they are valuable to club. Would love to see both given a chance again. Boro are over the moon they got Besic again.

3.) 01 Sep 2018 15:59:58
With you there NBTB very good player, great when we get him back.

4.) 02 Sep 2018 09:44:50
He’ll be first to all these loose balls in the box that are costing us right now, that’s for sure.

5.) 02 Sep 2018 11:34:48
I do love Besic, McCarthy would be ok if we can just keep him away from Ireland .

6.) 10 Sep 2018 19:49:03
nbtb i think if i remember corectly you said you are irish like myself. i think sometimes we might take it to heart when people write of mc carthy or slag of coleman because of this. but i am with you 100% on this one. mc carthy is one of the only players we have that literally put their bodies on the line week in and week out for us. mc carthy unfortunately has become so injury prone its a shame because for me, he was a starter every week for his grit and determination alone.

7.) 13 Sep 2018 09:20:32
I wouldn’t look at this current injury as him being injury prone tbh!
This was a freak injury from putting himself in harms way to clear danger!
I think a 3 in middle of Schneiderlin, McCarthy and Gana
Could be the difference in big games!
Most of the big clubs play 3 cm
All usually technically good but usually only 1 of them up for a fight if it gets physical, that’s why teams like Burnley pull off shocks by being aggressive

I think those 3 all on the pitch at once will cause the likes of Silva and de Bruyne or Pogba an lingard
And especially Henderson and wijnaldum all sorts of problems

So for me McCarthy could be massive for us when fit!



30 Aug 2018 13:21:16
i like lookman but really not fussed if he goes, he is 3rd choice left mid and there talking 25 m for him, let that sink in 25 m for 3rd choice player?!


1.) 30 Aug 2018 16:47:10
Yeah it's great business. Its just that fear He will leave and then go and be an instant star. Then we will feel we lost out big time, on money and a player.

I think if he and Sandro go, we could be a little short too. Its gotten a bit of a joke in recent years to accurately guess what press stuff is true and what is just stirring. If any of its to be believed, our manager wants to keep both.

2.) 30 Aug 2018 20:04:38
Do what Barcalona do, stick a buy back clause in his contract. Just in case.

3.) 31 Aug 2018 09:34:26
I wouldn't let him leave personally. We haven't got the numbers. Keep until january at least.



25 Apr 2018 10:26:04
ed would emery be a realistic option or is he off somewhere bigger?


{Ed001's Note - I believe he is waiting and keeping his options open before deciding, so I guess you never know, but first you have to have a job to offer him. Similar to the situation Arsenal were in until Wenger made his announcement, right now you do not have a job for him to be offered.}

1.) 25 Apr 2018 10:58:54
Spot on Edd001 until their is a vacancy its a non starter unless we go for two managers now that would be a first.

2.) 25 Apr 2018 11:27:45
thanks ed, i suppose am just living in hope that he will be gone haha.

{Ed001's Note - I am sure he will eventually.}

3.) 26 Apr 2018 06:54:22
Ed "eventually" isn't very up lifting sir. Eventually when his contract naturally expires hahaha.

{Ed001's Note - there is always the option of extending it open to the club. Would that be more uplifting for you? ;-)

4.) 26 Apr 2018 10:34:54
Ed001: Oh, you are a card, sir, a veritable comic genius.

{Ed001's Note - I really can't argue with that, it has been said many times before, though only by myself.}

5.) 27 Apr 2018 10:22:44
Has anyone said your very modest too haha.

{Ed001's Note - very regularly. It is up their with my comic genius as one of my many great qualities.}




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16 Sep 2018 20:50:17
some crazy over reactions there, we had something like 10 first team players out today, bring mina into the defense, get Gomes playing in the centre, get richarlison back get bernard upto speed and we have a very good side people need to take into consideration the shocking injury list before they slag a new manager who is tryi g to implement a new system with new players and has yet not been able to play his strongest 11 at once.


1.) 16 Sep 2018 21:51:08
Happen to agree, we weren’t great today but one game doesn’t make a season. I’ll reserve judgement until we don’t have an injury list as long as war and peace and our new guys have actually played more than 5 minutes.

{Ed025's Note - fair point gibbo..

2.) 17 Sep 2018 10:24:56
johny1989 If we had something like 10 first team players out today can you tell me who? As far as I can see we had pretty much most of the first team playing even if it was only badly.

3.) 17 Sep 2018 14:48:24
coleman, keane, jags, mccarthy, mina, gomes, beni, richarlison. there is at least 5 of those who would have started yesterday if fully fit.



11 Sep 2018 23:24:05
big well done to fraser hornby 5 goals in 2 u21 euro qualifiers over last few days. going from strength to strength, well done mate, could make the bench if dom is out for West ham aswell.




18 Aug 2018 12:23:00
av been up since 6 am all excited hahahaha.


1.) 18 Aug 2018 14:23:45
I used to be up at 6 am when Allardyce was in charge.
Only because it was less painful to go to work on a Saturday than watch the game.



14 Aug 2018 18:48:39
question for ed002, hypothetically if usmanov bought the remaining shares available, would he be able to use his wealth at all or are we completely reliant on income? i really am not up on these rules at all so was wondering does having a rich owner make any real difference if we aren't bringing a lot on money into the club.
would usmanov be able to give everton a loan or wpuld that breach ffp?
sorry I no u dnt like talking finance but just a quick, having him would be good or his wealth is irrelevant will do ed cheers in advance.


{Ed002's Note - You are just clutching at straws about wanting a sugar daddy owner - I an not going to get in to the finances as it is simply not worth it on the Everton page.}

1.) 14 Aug 2018 19:38:28
I don’t think his cash can do anything at the moment anyway, transfer window finished to January, stadium won’t be ready for few years so as a club income won’t be much more than what it is, it’s the bigger picture that needs to be looked at new stadium in iconic spot with a complete regeneration around it with huge growth once built, premier league money is only going in one direction up although I think the tv deal here will level out but overseas money tv deal is coming up next year I believe and that will continue to grow at a huge rate, because it is the best league in the world.
I actually think he has interests in us already.
I just don’t see Moshri being able to fund this project alone.
Spurs are not buying cause they have to pay for this stadium and running costs which will be higher, same as Arsenal had to go through.
So I would say the only way we are going to do this project is with Usmanov, just my gut feeling that it’s been the plan all the way unless Usmanov would of got full control at Arsenal.

2.) 14 Aug 2018 19:40:31
I think too many people are getting carried away with this whole Usmanov thing. He invested in Arsenal as he felt football was on the verge of becoming a profitable venture. Yes he wanted more say in the club, but that doesn't mean he wanted to throw money at it.
Yes he has said he could potentially hypothetically buy into Everton - if he see's potential for investment profit - he will not be throwing money at us.

3.) 14 Aug 2018 20:03:45
Steering clear of anything technical FFP

The thing about top end sports clubs (regardless of sport) is they attract very rich Man, who see them as something of a play thing or a passion. I'm not saying that these aren't ran correctly but they are certainly ran in a very unfamiliar way to any other business model.

Of course profits count, I'm not trying to say they don't but there is something else that marries an owner and a football club.

Sure this Uzbekki fella will want to be assured he can't lose money but he will want to win! He said countless times at Arsenal, he'd bank roll em to the top. (Leave me alone ed 02)

I think it was always a plan between the 2 of em. If he couldn't wrestle AFC away for himself, he would go somewhere else. FM has assured that another hot pie is ready to go.

And I don't care what rules, 2 billionaires are surely better than 1?

4.) 14 Aug 2018 20:09:43
Im sure his credit file is better than mine. That's got to count for something when brokering a deal?

5.) 14 Aug 2018 20:50:11
I wernt clutching at straws ed, just a question mate, if he was to come could we spend his money or not is pretty much alls I wanted to no.

6.) 14 Aug 2018 23:55:10
We must be close to our FFP limit for the last couple of years and from what I gather it is based over 3 consecutive years.
Usmanov can't simply come in and throw an amount of cash in the pot, well, he can for other things in the club if he wishes, but transfers, wages, bonuses have to be balanced from incomings.
USM could sponsor us again like finch farm but we only have one finch farm.
If he wants to waste his money USM could sponsor the stadium or rename Goodison, USM Goodison park. Is he going to? No.
If he comes in and buys the rest of kenwrights shares, brilliant, but he won't be majority shareholder and Moshiri would still have control.
And he isn't, correction can't just spend his hard earned money buying us players, paying wages or bonuses.

Essentially we need more money from sponsors, ticket prices, selling players, tv money, success and merchandise to be able spend more.

The man city and Chelsea bank roll days are done.

7.) 15 Aug 2018 09:28:48
Agree with you ed, everyone getting overjoyed with the usmanov rumours, doesn't really mean anything at this moment as sure we'll possible have funds but to compete with top six also needs a football side of it, we currently aren't in the position where if we matched money offered by others a big player would come to us, so slow it all down, if we came fourth one year and had usmanov then maybe you think about it, also with usmanov joining now most of his wealth input would be on the stadium and finances etc.

8.) 15 Aug 2018 14:48:59
I feel a couple of Ed’s bar Ed25 are getting twitchy bums with the thought of money being pumped into our club and the new stadium gaining momentum.

{Ed002's Note - Another embarrassing post. The stadium is happening regardless. None of the Eds care about any money being "pumped" in to Everton - don't forget that when Moshiri arrived Everton fans were convinced he was putting in £200M in to each transfer window - it was never true, never going to happen. Now you all seem convinced that Usmanov is goining to be gifting Everton a stadium, and vast sums of money. It won't happen. He will look to buy back in to a club going forward - but he won't be buying Everton, perhaps he will look at Newcastle - but he has a far better option in mind already. You seem to live in a bizarre fantasy world.}

9.) 15 Aug 2018 15:53:42
Funny you should mention Newcastle Ed002 because I was thinking exactly the same, he can have full control there and other than the team which he can invest in, they have everything on place with regards to stadium etc and they are also a one team city.

10.) 15 Aug 2018 18:50:02
Any prospective buyer (Usmanov) could buy shares into Everton. Maybe even Moshiris shares and become the majority share holder, I think it was their long term plan overall. I think most understand that due to FFP now owner can just say there’s £300m next transfer window. They would see it as a long term investment. Not just a new football ground and attend games on a Saturday. It will be a mini village just outside the city centre. A stadium to hold many different events such as concerts, Hotels, casinos and a top tourist attraction for all who visit Liverpool. Tours from cruise vessels etc.

We WILL be successful on the pitch and be a global brand and once we take this step very much like Man City are now there isn’t much expenditure on players as there was in the early days. One or two signings a season. This is the vision and one that is achievable.

11.) 15 Aug 2018 21:28:00
Love it when you get a bite, hence banter page.

12.) 15 Aug 2018 21:46:36
No question the Stadium is going ahead regardless, seems strange though just after selling his shares, Everton stated that they will not be needing to borrow a loan from the local council, unless I have missed something and Moshi is stumping up all the money.

Whether this has anything to do with a gift to get around the FFP with naming rights to the new stadium just like Finch farm, an investment from Usmanov whether coming in or not, rich owners will always find a way around the ffp.

In regards to transfer fees, another way around this is staggering the payments over 5 seasons instead of the full amount to the selling club.

Right or wrong, clubs with rich owners will always find a way around the ffp.

Whether Usmanov has any impact, whether buying into the club, or simply helping his friend Moshi, I think there is a possibility he will have some interest in Everton Football aclub.

{Ed002's Note - Everton have found a way to cheat and get around FFP - stunning stuff.}

13.) 15 Aug 2018 22:30:47
I see where you’re coming from about blues getting carried away when Moshiri came in, believing he would bank roll us every transfer window, and now with this Usmanov proposal. But I will say this, after decades of false promises and 0 investestment are Everton fans not allowed to get excited carried away with themselves? We’re new to this whole “having money” thing. Additionally, it’s not all Everton fans who think like this so to tar us all with the same brush is a bit narrow minded.

In response to you pinning Newcastle as a club “moving forward” and perhaps being a more attractive investment, in what capacity are Everton not “moving forward”? New stadium, new headquarters in Liverpool’s business district and landmark, restructured our corporate and management team and bought in some highly respected individuals in their given fields, as well as an exciting young manager and a glut of promising players. All seems very investable to me.

{Ed002's Note - I did not say Newcastle were “moving forward” or anything like that. Perhaps you can find a half wit to read what I wrote to you slowly.}

14.) 15 Aug 2018 22:45:57
“He will look to buy into a club that is going forward. perhaps he will buy Newcastle”. Am I missing something here? If Newcastle aren’t going forward then why buy into them like you said?

{Ed002's Note - As in “in the future”. You are probably wasting your time trying to interpret what I write - maybe we could do a pop up version of the Everton page for you.}

15.) 15 Aug 2018 23:43:51
I am with you bitter blue with the club going forward, perhaps he will buy Newcastle, so I am as miffed as you with your reply trying to interpret it other than how it reads in the response.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware that he has any interest in Newcastle at all, but it is available and won’t be sold at a knock down price. Everton is Moshiri’s. Maybe you should await the pop-up version of the web site - or maybe the long awaited finger puppy version. I could write in Polari, which I would expect most Everton supporters to be hip to, and you still wouldn’t get it.}

16.) 16 Aug 2018 00:35:47
So if Newcastle is not available at a knock down price, you then look into the £83Million Moshi paid for 49% of shares in Everton.

However you look at it, Usmanov received 505 Million for his shares, taking into account more coprerate and revenue at the Emirates, he could look to buy shares at Everton, even at a slightly more inflated price, he could buy 50% and still have well over 400 Million left from his money from the sale of his shares from Arsenal.

Even pumping the 200 Million towards Everton’s cost in part towards the new stadium would still leave him a nice 200 Million.

Now we know Moshi has just over 50% per cent of the shares a deal could be struck to give Usmanov and Moshi equal 50%

That’s why I think it is possible Usmanov will think long and hard with a view to investing in Everton Football Club.



07 Aug 2018 10:59:16
been on the Chelsea page to ask how Ross is getting on and I am quite shocked at the hate towards us and the view that they think us and West ham are on the same level, am I delusional or are we a step up from west ham?


1.) 07 Aug 2018 11:05:01
Chelsea fans hate everyone johny. Just look at the league standings for the last few years and that’ll tell you where we and West Ham sit in relation to who’s the better club.

2.) 07 Aug 2018 11:20:23
Not talking about size or history of club here, but ability and quality of current squad.

But yes I think we are a similar level to West Ham. I think we need to be realistic about our current situation and position at the moment. I see us, West Ham and Leicester as the teams who should be fighting for 7th. That's where we are right now in my eyes - and that's the size of our current challenge to get close to top 6.

But I believe now we have the right owner and structure in place to build and improve - if MS sticks around longer than his previous clubs!

3.) 07 Aug 2018 11:21:16
That is the response I gave mate.

4.) 07 Aug 2018 11:34:32
I live down south and there are loads of West Ham fans and friends of mine who have always openly said that Everton are a better club than West Ham and of course love it when they beat us 3-0!

That said, this season there is a lot of optimism surrounding west have with their new signings. We discussed this a couple of weeks ago though and agree that it’s only a matter of time before the owners piss pellegrini off and he leaves the club my mutual consent.

5.) 07 Aug 2018 12:15:55
I don't hate Everton boys I just don't think you're that big of a club anymore. Obviously have huge history like West Ham do but right now you're competing with them to finish as the best of the rest outside the top 6. You've been very poor for a number of seasons now along with West Ham but both making decent signings and will be interesting to see how you do.

6.) 07 Aug 2018 15:22:50
I suppose it depends on what length of time you look back at. A couple of years, then we are miles ahead.
10 years, then we are miles ahead, 30 years, then we are miles ahead.

Ok, I'm struggling to find a time period that they consistently did anything better than us.




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18 Sep 2018 06:44:29
kids aren't good enough yet kenny was one of best on the pitch, morgan not good enough yet we have fell apart every time he hasn't been on the pitch.
you talk about getting sucked into the plan then proceed to waffle about statements to be made? is that not the same thing, suck it up mate and either support or go follow city if you just want an easy ride.




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15 Sep 2018 11:33:54
thanks mate, poor from the club that.


{Ed002's Note - I would agree.}



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13 Sep 2018 14:37:57
play dowell there then if needs be or anthony evans or give hornby a run up top go two up top, we have options in the club.




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07 Sep 2018 10:12:21
don't have to apologise mate, he could be a massive flop but if Marco and marcel fancy him then get him in I say.




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06 Sep 2018 15:51:04
37 in 58 in italy isn't a bad record before america. 84 goals in last 105 games ad say he knows how to put the ball past the keeper.





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18 Sep 2018 06:45:22
well said true blue!




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17 Sep 2018 14:48:24
coleman, keane, jags, mccarthy, mina, gomes, beni, richarlison. there is at least 5 of those who would have started yesterday if fully fit.




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17 Sep 2018 14:45:28
behave alan the lads isolated up there but never stops running some fans really are pathetically fickle. kane hasn't scored in what 4 games is he a poor striker who gives everything for england and nothing for spurs, get a grip man and support the team.




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15 Sep 2018 00:01:45
Evans is top draw mate, big strong lad so physically wouldn't be out of place in the prem, not ready yet but would do a job if called upon knows how to put ball in back of the net, can cross a ball and isn't afraid to run at players, I watch a far bit of the 23s and honestly am. excited by Evans Hornby Sambou Gibson and the young Aussie lad who's name I can't spell hahaha he plays at the back looks solid mate.




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30 Aug 2018 23:21:22
I hope he goes 25m in the bank thank u.