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25 May 2017 12:21:45
Hi Ed, surely this Ross lark is not going to do his England chances much good let alone his Everton one, i reckon he is being wrongly advised by his agent to hold out for bigger bucks, he could come down to Earth with a big bump if he's not careful, cheers GuernseyBlue.

{Ed002's Note - There is nothing going on with Barkley that isn't simply business as usual for clubs and players. It is nothing to do with his England career nor any "coming down to earth". He is available for transfer and Everton has set a price on him above what most clubs would likely look to pay. Either someone pays more or Everton has to change their stance. It is all simple and the norm - and no big deal. As I have previously explained, Ronald Koeman has already backed Everton in to a very difficult place now with his unprofessional "washing the laundry in public" attitude.}

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25 May 2017 10:26:08
Ed, I wondered if could pick your brains over a transfer query I have, I was just wondering, is it a lot more expensive to bring a player in than sell one. For example say we sold Barkley for 30m and bought Sigurdsson for 30m, it wouldn't be as black and white as breaking even? . Taking wages out of the equation, there would be signing on fee's, agent fee's etc for the incoming transfer. Are there any additional incomes generated from an outgoing transfer? . Or is it a case of 30m and that's it.

{Ed002's Note - It depends on various factors Gibbo, particularly whether the player is under 24 and was developed by the club but it would be a saving rather than an expenditure in the case of RB. Typically selling a player brings in a fee but it does incur costs as well.

In simple terms:
what would be paid by the buying club (Everton) for Sigurdsson would typically include:
(a) Transfer fee - the big number.
(b) Any levy applied by the local FA – 5% for the EPL.
(c) Tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(d) Agent fees – this may be to one or more agents (this will be several million pounds).
(e) Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(f) Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches (what do you mean you have a super agent?) .
(g) Tax due on the Intermediary fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(h) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered).
(i) Legal fees.
(j) VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable.
(k) Moving/relocation costs for the player.
(l) VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable.
(m) Paying up insurance costs to the selling club (sometimes waived).

What is paid by the selling club (Everton) for Barkley) would typically include:
(a) If the player is under 24 and moving between different football associations, a Solidarity contribution paid to his previous clubs responsible for his training - this is 5% of the transfer fee received (apportioned 5% of the contribution for each year from the season of his 12th birthday to the season of his 15th birthday and 10% of the contribution for each season from his 16th to 23rd birthdays). So for RB this is zero.
(b) If the player moves to a higher category club (all clubs being categorised 1 to 4) then Training Compensation is due for the period of age 12 to 21. Compensation is due to all clubs when the player turns from amateur to professional and thereafter only when he moves from his final training club to another club. The initial training compensation is levied at the training costs associated with Category 4 clubs. The subsequent figure is agreed between the sides or tribuneral if necessary. Zero in the case of RB.
(c) Any monies owed to the player if he did not request a transfer – again this is 5% of the transfer fee received.
(d) Any monies owed to the player in terms of his contract (typically outstanding owed wages (not future wages) and bonuses).
(e) Any money contractually due to a previous club as the result of a sell-on clause. Zero for RB.

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25 May 2017 11:24:58
Thanks ed, great insight.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome Gibbo.}

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25 May 2017 11:56:26
I don’t get it I thought Ross wanted 100k and Sigurdsson wants 120k so are we saying Sigurdsson is worth 20k per annum more? Bringing age into account its a little bit strange to me .

{Ed002's Note - That would be per week not per year. My advice is not to worry about the wages at all.}

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24 May 2017 21:58:27
I didn't like the look of any ajax player and please tell me how they made the final.

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24 May 2017 22:41:09
They were poor but They are young and came up against a great manager in mourinho. He knows how to grind finals out. Was a poor game from both sides.
One bad game doesn't make you poor just like one good game doesn't make you maradona. Rk and sw will have scouted our targets thoroughly and I hope players are brought in pretty quickly to gel with current squad.

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24 May 2017 23:06:39
On tonight's showing I will have to agree.
They all looked technically gifted but light weight as can he expected for there age. All-in-all if koeman says he wants them, then that's good enough for me.

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24 May 2017 23:12:47
Just didn't perform, reminded me of the Martinez era, loads of possession but doing nothing with it. They absolutely teared lyon to shreds in the semi final first leg. There is talent there, just didn't show tonight.

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24 May 2017 17:59:39
It's not really our call what constitutes success for them. Lescott, Arteta and Fellaini all made a lot more money, played in the champs league and won at least one major trophy. Arteta captained Arsenal when they won the FA Cup. John Stones hasn't won a trophy yet but he has made the cash and played in the CL. He's also, let's face it, better place to win a trophy. Whatever we think, I doubt any of them would look back and think, "Wish I'd stayed put. "

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24 May 2017 19:02:08
Great point. I thank these players for their service and look forward to the next season.

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24 May 2017 21:16:34
I'm guessing this is referring to the thread on the rumours page coyb. I agree it is not 'our call' on what is success but everyone is entitlef to there opinion. Arteta at least stayed with Arsenal for a proper length of time. I did say his success was debatable. Meaning 50/ 50, 60/ 40, whatever.

But Lescott? Really? First of all when I talk about success I don't talk about an individual players bank balance. I talk about his performances on the pitch. Which imho is reflected on how much their club wants them to stay. City let Lescotts contract run down as far as I'm aware at the age of 31. A centre backs peak time of his career. Look Terry what age is he after winning the League. Now that is success.

Lescott was with City for 4 or 5 years and individually was he successful? We all know City were successful. Lescott imho was not one of the main players during his brief period at a successful City squad. He was a squad player. They didn't want to keep him. Would City say 'There is a big return on our investment. ' Imho No but its not for me to say.

Who wanted him after City didn't? WBA, Aston Villa and AEK in Greece, o yea and Sunderland. Desperate signing by them. 2 appearances all year. It has to be a record getting relegated 2 seasons in a row from the premiership but Lescott being successful managed that one. Last season after posting a picture of his motor at Villa. Showed how he measures success.

This season after 2 appearances with Sunderland. At 34 now still now too old to play on for a centre back where will he go? Who will have him. Distin played on until nearly 40. Imho he was a far better player.

Would Everton look at Lescott now and say 'Pity we didn't still have Lescott' I'd doubt it but its not for me to call.

Fellaini can't be properly seen as success or not imho. Not many Utd fans seem delighted he was bought. For the record imho he is undervalued by the Utd supporters but is appreciated by Mourinho. I hope he wins plenty of medals and is a success at Utd. Not like Djemba Djemba who probably has plenty of medals at a successful Utd squad. Was he a success?

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24 May 2017 21:28:26
Exactly New Blue in the U. The only players I'd like to see at Everton are players who want to play for Everton. Not mercenaries or self righteous players. For example Coleman, Baines and Jagielka.

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25 May 2017 06:39:34
Yeah it was supposed to go on the rumours page NBTB:-)
Lescott may not have been one of City's stars and Fellaini isn't liked by Utd fans, you're right. I still suspect they both feel they made the right decision moving. Others didn't, of course - Pienaar, Rodwell, etc. And I suspect Ross may actually be in this latter category if he goes. I can't see him as a success at that level. Lescott was a good defender in his day, Arteta was class, Fellaini. has been lucky, I think, but at least he's a physical presence in a team. Ross is not leaving Everton for glory with anyone else, whatever he thinks.

{Ed025's Note - i agree with all that coyb mate..

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25 May 2017 08:22:15
I never said any of these players were in any way bad players just that their success after leaving Everton was not achieved to where it would of been thought before they leave. I agree totally Arteta was class. He spent a long time at Arsenal. Lescott was a good defender at Everton. With City not so good. Fellaini like I said imho is underrated by the Utd supporters and was probably our best player while he was with Everton.

Who knows why Ross is leaving Everton? Say what you want about him at least he did / is keeping quiet about it. Not like Rom who is not shy about his personal ambitions.

If Ross and Rom do decide to go Everton will cope without them. Just like Everton always has when players leave.

The only true 100% success story after a player left Everton for success is Wayne Rooney. He done it all. Utd played him well because they wanted to keep and he broke all sorts of records. Arteta and Fellaini have some certain amount of individual success. As for the rest imho it is very limited.

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25 May 2017 09:31:28
This is all subjective, in my opinion: Arteta, Fellani and Lescott made successful moves. Rodwell and Gosling didnt. Who knows how Ross will get on. He is not the finished article so if he goes to the right team with a coaching staff that can get the best out of him then good luck to the lad. Just can't see that happening at any of the top 6 English teams.

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24 May 2017 09:39:36
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Sunderland Season Review

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24 May 2017 10:09:24
good post ed are you starting from the bottom and working up or just picking a team at random?

{Ed001's Note - from the bottom and working my way up. Thank you sa90.}

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24 May 2017 07:18:24
On this Barkley non-announcement, it will happen in due course either way and don't forget England play Scotland on June 10th. The lad will have to keep training in and around the club until then before he has a holiday.
Also, if we starting our Europa campaign early, as I think we do, we any new need players in and pre-season handy to get the fitness level spot on for start of the season.

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23 May 2017 07:38:11
Just wanna start by sending our thoughts and prayers to everyone affected by the Manchester incident last night. I'm sure there will be aome blues fans involved and we are thinking about you and your families.

Onto football matters (insignificant, I know. I see the rags are saying we going to miss out on sandro and gylfi wants 120k a week to sign for us (I'd pay him it) .

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23 May 2017 08:41:26
I can't even think about football at the moment mate that's shocking what happened in Manchester God love them and there family's can't even go to a concert now with these sick animals out there. RIP.

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23 May 2017 09:47:54
Agreed stef. Makes me wanna lock my doors and keep my kids safe but then the rats will win. Just vermin.

Also wanna praise the many Scousers who shot up in taxis, minibuses and cars to help get people safely home for free. Makes you realise there is good people out there.

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23 May 2017 12:35:16
As a father of two daughters aged 10 and 7 who love Ariana Grande as much as I love Everton it is such a terrible terrible act. My daughters desperately wanted to go when she was coming here in September and I bought tickets for us three to go. Football becomes secondary at this moment. Our thoughts are with you guys.

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23 May 2017 06:56:29
The England under 20 game v Guinea will be shown live today on Eurosport 1 uk time 8.45 am for those wanting to catch the Everton youngsters in action.

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23 May 2017 08:30:21
Lookman to start in place of Calvert-Lewin, Kenny and Connally start with Dowell dropping down to the bench.

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22 May 2017 22:22:23
For Ross Barkley see Jack Rodwell. When are these boys realise they are at a great club with great support, and pretty decent wages. The best thing Ross could do is ring Jack and say so how did things work out for you mate.

{Ed025's Note - another good example woburn of why the grass is not always greener mate..

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24 May 2017 01:07:39
England managers spotted Ross’s flaws before we did, I would love him to stay and prove us wrong, but every point dropped could mean a Champions league place next season, his time has run out sadly, Koeman wanted him to up his game with goals etc it hasn’t happened . not Koemans fault, I think he gave him more than a chance.

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22 May 2017 18:56:46
Not Nevilles biggest fan but do agree with his comments on Koeman seeming to want to get rid of Ross, never a word about Lukaku but never stops putting pressure on Ross.
That said I wouldn't be to fussed if he went just think this should be done in house.

{Ed025's Note - i think koeman has done it as a warning to the other players mate, the club wont be trifled with and for that i applaud them..

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22 May 2017 20:13:10
Ross is in his last year but Rom isn't.

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22 May 2017 20:47:18
I don't really think it's RK who keeps going on about Barkley after all he is only answering media questions. Neville should keep out of this, unless that is, someone asks him questions regarding the matter. :-)

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22 May 2017 21:40:18
I'm all for RK speaking his mind when asked about players. Rom has scored 25 goals this season and if you watch RK's press conferences, he does state that Lukaku does still need to improve. Ross is not a child and he gets paid very well for his job. If he can't handle the criticism. He'll be getting ten fold at a bigger club.

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22 May 2017 22:30:23
Rom has always said he wants CL so have no issue with that. Ross has said nothing so hasn't helped himself. He's been poor most of the season yet we don't know what his intentions are. If he goes I won't lose any sleep over it. I personally think he's being driven by his agent.

{Ed025's Note - lets hope he drives him miles away windsor.. :)

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23 May 2017 17:37:57
Said over a season ago Ross needs support and not hounded at a stray pass, he is one of the players that has been made a scapegoat over the years, some fair some not many have supported Ross many have been quick to jump on his back, I have seen Ross dropped, hung out by Ronnie but never once have I seen Ronnie take simular action to Rom, he's started nearly every game he has been fit for, the fans have applauded Rom in the ground while some have booed at the slightest bad pass by Ross, now there's fair and unfair and for me I would not blame Ross one bit if he left and wish him all the best if he goes.

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23 May 2017 18:09:31
I tend to get a lot of stick re my criticism of EFC particulatray in regards to communication.
Be it the ground or transfers always on last minute
But when EFC said they would be shortly issuing a statement re Barclay I laughed my head off
When have EFC ever done anything remotely quickly
Sorry but they getting a reputation for it .
Someone is getting a lot of money to sort these things out and no doubt it will be the same with transfers
We will end up scraping about on deadline day as per usual
The days of Jim Greenwood and Harry Caterick are long gone!

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