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21 Jan 2017 07:50:03
As we enter thr final 2 weeks of the transfer window and the rumours get stronger, I'm happier having Koeman and Walsh at the helm than Martinez. How many Martinez signings would have been deemed good enough for a transfer to the Roysl Blue Jersey these days?
Oumar Niasse (£13.5m)
Aiden McGeady (Undisclosed)
Antolin Alcaraz (Free)
Arouna Kone (£6m)
Jindrich Stanek (Undisclosed)
Leandro Rodriguez (£500k)
Sam Byrne (Free)
Samuel Eto'o (Free)
Joel Robles (£2m)
Tom Cleverley (Free)
Mason Holgate (£2m)
James McCarthy (£13m)
Muhamed Besic (£4.8m)
Gerard Deulofeu (£4.3m)
Aaron Lennon (£4m)
Brendan Galloway (Undisclosed)
Ramiro Funes Mori (£9.5m)
Gareth Barry (Free)
Romelu Lukaku (£28m)

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21 Jan 2017 08:09:35
It's hard to compare Ozzie as Koeman is shopping on a different budget now. No matter who you buy at the prices at the lower end they usually are what you get.

With the exception of Niasse the ones he did buy that cost big money have been excellent signings in McCarthy, Mori and Lukaku and if sold would make a huge profit.

Add to Holgate who has a bright future ahead of him and Brendan will have one too plus Besic when fit could also have a future at our club.

Barry has been a great player for us and is a shame we got him later in his footballing life and Ged has the makings of a star but with too many question marks over him.

All in all his buys weren't bad from Poundland. Let's see how well we do at Harrods.

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20 Jan 2017 21:06:16
Hi Eds 3 targets gone mate Fonte to west ham, Berahino to Stoke, and Depay to Lyon, who's next

{Ed025's Note - i dont think fonte or berahino were ever serious targets AB, and im happy we never got depay so i dont think we are any worse off than when those 3 were available mate..

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20 Jan 2017 22:53:21
Agree with Ed here. Can't for a second believe we would let a brilliant servant who is also club captain leave because he is getting on, to replace him with a different defender who is getting on. As for berahino. we all have a go when the press announce that rom has pushed for a move, so do we really want a player who has spent more time trying to force an exit from his club that playing for them? Personally I'd have liked depay on loan but fully understand the reasoning behind not stumping up the fee they wanted.

{Ed025's Note - great minds think alike cropper mate.. :)

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20 Jan 2017 23:03:52
And fool's seldom differ Ed025! Personally not bothered we didn't get any of them.

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20 Jan 2017 21:09:33
Without being disrespectful to Stoke and I mean that, but all that carry on from Berahino and he ends signing for a club who are on the same level as West brom, you could understand if it was Real Madrid or someone on them lines without condoling it. He will probably start crying to leave Stoke after 12 months feel sorry for West brom, rant over.

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20 Jan 2017 22:14:32
No mate. Stoke have . well they are trying to. well West Brom were behind them because. oh yeah, you're right. Sorry.

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20 Jan 2017 19:16:42
Bit disappointed about Gerry leaving even if it is on loan. A player with great potential that definitely wanted to play for us. If this is the billionaire overhaul taking effect then I suppose we have to swallow it. Who am I to argue with Ronald Koeman? I think he seems happy to alternate Kev and Azza at the moment. With Depay gone (happy about that) are we going to try to fill the gap do you think Ed? The gaffer said he won't settle for plan b targets after all.

{Ed025's Note - he knows the caibre of player he wants matt and that suits me just fine mate..

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20 Jan 2017 19:52:14
Thanks Ed

{Ed025's Note - anytime matt..

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20 Jan 2017 19:57:37
He has only gone on loan. It's really up to him now to convince RK that he has what it takes.

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20 Jan 2017 21:44:19
Rk is passionate and a born winner. He wants to take everton to the elite and knows who he can or can't take with him. Let's all trust in him to build a team to achieve this.

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20 Jan 2017 22:16:17
Mirallas is a much better player in my view. But like you say the manager lives and dies by his decisions.

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20 Jan 2017 23:01:21
Gerry's attitude is just not right and he feels he should be the starman because he came through at Barca.
His attitude was questioned at Sevilla, he was allowed to leave Barcelona and now RK has had enough. Surely it is a problem with him as a person not as a player, although his fitness is woeful.
I don't believe we will see him in a blue shirt again and I for one won't really miss him.

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20 Jan 2017 15:20:18
I see a lot of midfielders being linked with us, but I don't see any striker, surely we are more in need of a striker than more midfielders, lukaku gets injured who do we have to play up front

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20 Jan 2017 16:24:45
Linked is the key word. We don't know who is being talked to.

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19 Jan 2017 23:27:36
I miss Yarmolenko lol.

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20 Jan 2017 07:18:12
I think he having coffee in the Wetherspoons with riquelme and manny Fernandes.

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20 Jan 2017 11:50:26
Moutinho and veloso have been seen trying to convince witsel to get out of his recent move and join them 2 at everton as well.

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19 Jan 2017 21:16:19
Question for Ed002 - are football players registered as individuals for tax purposes, i. e. paid PAYE, or are they registered as limited companies?

I was listening to a debate on TalkSport earlier about the money footballers earn and it made me think about how much tax they pay. In theory the enormous money from abroad that's pumped into the PL through broadcasting rights and therefore into players' pockets could actually be a huge benefit for the economy, if they are paid PAYE?

{Ed002's Note - Actually a really good question but a generally boring answer in the modern day. Back in the fairly recent day (a) all EPL clubs have returned the Revenue's questionnaire regarding the use of trusts and the payments of expenses; (b) a number of EPL clubs were already negotiating a financial resolution; (c) at least one EPL club had already settled with the Revenue was now in discussion with them over some rather more trivial issues that will require a number of players to make settlements; (d) at least one Championship club settled a small amount; (e) at least one EPL club cancelled additional perks (free tickets to games etc.) following some discussions with the Revenue over another issue; (f) There are a number of clubs that made payments in to Trusts; (g) two EPL clubs have settled a separate matter related to the payment of money related to the image rights of a player who has represented both side; (h) that the Revenue are not simply looking at trusts, but at all payments made to and on behalf of players.

There have been instances in the past where players have been paid via offshore trusts, limited companies for services rendered to the club and in tax-exempt oil paintings and cars. These were referred to as “loopholes” and they have pretty much all gone by the board now, although I know of one now ex-EPL player who was until not too long being paid via his residency of Monaco.

The clubs all realise that there was a need to resolve these issues and to settle because the consequences of litigation are potentially very harsh. It won't be perfect, but it won't be that bad. Other counties are ahead or behind England on this but the days of yore have pretty much moved on with respect to abuse.}

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20 Jan 2017 07:52:12
Sounds like a mess to me Ed. Also sounds like some were sailing pretty close to the wind. I am surprised there have not been any cases as per Spain and Messi. Perhaps our tax collectors are more reasonable? lol

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19 Jan 2017 21:49:45
Thanks Ed. I know in Trent years HMRC has moved to close many loopholes such as giving employees gift vouchers as perks etc, and I guess tickets for friends and family given to players would fall into that bracket.

Similarly the ability to pay a company's named directors in dividends at solely 20% corporation tax has been almost completely abolished.

Surely the 'right of substitution' definition on a limited company would also come into effect here, because there is now way you could argue that that would be the case for a professional footballer setting themselves up as a limited company.

That said, it could explain Oumar Niasse.

{Ed002's Note - Much of the limited company, trust type approaches are behind us now.}

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19 Jan 2017 22:36:38
I hadn't thought about the clubs' positions but of course they would have avoided paying statutory levies such as employer's NI, pension, death in service etc if players were registered as limited companies. They would only have paid VAT on invoice values and that could have been reclaimed if the club was VAT registered.

Frightening to think how much players and clubs would have avoided paying given that the legislative changes and loophole closures were so recent.

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19 Jan 2017 20:35:20
Tell you what it's never boring supporting efc, we are never happy or some aren't. People see managers interviews and we all have different interpretations, media say we are after a player who we have never heard and when they don't sign we go mad haha

Deepay in my opinion has done nothing for Utd, and I don't think he will make us any better. He has been in prem for years and what has he done, not much yet some fans moaning we never got him, some happy we never spent 21 mill.

For the first time in years we got a manager that has no loyalties to players and has told them the truth. I am glad as this proves we are going in the right way, some players deserve a good send off some don't.

Let's all get behind the club and rk, see this season out and I think we will finish well. Rk will get his players and ship moyes and rm players out. So let's just watch and enjoy the rest of the season and see what rk does with his players and team next season

Coyb

{Ed025's Note - im all for that pb mate..

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19 Jan 2017 20:52:38
My sentiments exactly Pb shame not everybody on here don't feel the same because this is going to be good, GuernseyBlue

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19 Jan 2017 20:54:20
I for one am over the moon we never got him.

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20 Jan 2017 08:02:22
I think we have all been through a real torrid time. Supporters have done what they could to remain positive, but under Martinez, decisions made were just so plainly wrong and the club/ team took such a big backwards step. Some fans could see it happening early on. Others were ever optomistic and carried on hoping that things were going to improve. Eventually we went into a rapid spiral that got just about everyone down.

When Moshiri came in and things really started to improve again, some fans could see it. Others (myself included) were a little more sceptical. We had seen it all before. But looking at what was happening with the club, particularly with Koeman and Walsh coming in. that has slowly opened our eyes. Some are still in the "negative" mode. but us positive ones should not be giving them a hard time. I can remember exactly how easy it is to get in the cynical mode. And how hard it is to get out of it. As true football CLUB supporters, we need to just gently show them that progress is being made.

Point out the good things. Eventually they will see that they are stuck in a time loop. I have said it before. we are a traditional FOOTBALL CLUB. We are not Everton PLC nor do we evert want to be. We have millionaire players of course. But the board do make us remember our history and do the odd thing that makes us different to all the PLC businesses that are the so called top 4. In my view there has only ever been a top 1!

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20 Jan 2017 09:19:02
Top post that Degsy.
Got to say I never used to enjoy reading your posts as they tended to be repetitive, but lately i have enjoyed reading not only posts like this one but also the witty ones.
Keep it up mate.

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20 Jan 2017 10:21:36
Thanks mate. Like I said. it's hard to get out of the negative mode. when you truly believe bad decisions keep getting made. But I can at last see progress. Mirallas is a classic example. He looked pretty rubbish for 2 years. but he is getting his mogo back. Baines and Coleman too. I can see some players are looking their age and need replacing, but those 3 are still young and good enough to grace most teams. They did not becomee bad players overnight. Something within the club is better. probably Koeman talking straight. Now we just need to make sure signings are the right ones. Then bring through some more youth. and with a bit of luck. to be continued.

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19 Jan 2017 20:01:18
Also just wanna say good luck to Antony Evans, who has joined Morecambe on loan and all the other young lads on loan. Hopefully some of them may come back better players and make moves towards the first team.

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19 Jan 2017 19:58:24
Completely messed that up.

Makes me wonder if people actually watch games. First hull sign niasse on loan and now Swansea linked with kone. If I was a manager I would not even think about buying these players. I would rather play kids or look at the lower leagues for a younger player.

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