17 Aug 2016 16:40:33
Artical saying we would have to pay 20m for docklands site, but if the local aurthority where to grant everton outline planning consent for housing on the goodision site and surroundind land, then this would cover a considerable portion of the 20m if sold to a developer!

1.) 17 Aug 2016
17 Aug 2016 17:04:51
I assume that's 20 mill for the land then a good 300 mill for a new stadium. It takes the pee really, a modern stadium/ retail park, look up the Friends Arena/ Mall of Scandinavia in Stockholm could eclipse the trafford centre and be the retail, dining mecha of the north west.

2.) 17 Aug 2016
17 Aug 2016 18:54:45
Its prime land in Liverpool and one of the most famous waterfronts in the world. I thought it was going to be more, a lot more. This actually makes it more realistic.

The big problem with this area is that we can't have retail. We won't make much money with just bars and restaurants. Retail brings people at most times of the day and 7 days a week which fills the bars and restaurants. More people means higher rents we can charge that feeds the sites business which aids the cost of the stadium and surrounding site. Also, helps massively with commercial enterprises.

We can't have retail because of L1.

It's complicated beyond belief and I don't know anywhere near yhe ins and outs of it but with any development it comes down to maximising the area and creating a consistent and busy area.

Housing and even a hotel could help which peel is looking to do. Whether they think a stadium is going to help this I wouldn't think so as this would devalue the properties if its housing but might help the hotel.

I wonder what protests we may get from the Echo arena if we use it for anything other than football and it treads on their toes. Like L1 we would get similar protests from them on use of it.

Basically only god knows.

{Ed025's Note - but gods an evertonian john so we should be ok mate.. :)

3.) 17 Aug 2016
17 Aug 2016 20:28:35
Tbf John you raise some valid points but the Echo arena has limitations with regards to capacity. Boxing for example can sell massive amounts of tickets and could out sell the capacity the Echo has. Suppose if we throw on an athletics track we open the door for these sorts of events. There are a lot of sporting events we could utilise the stadium for without the need for retail, and therefore still bring in the revenue. The docklands site is what I want as an evertonian as it will be the best stadium in our city and at the heart of the city were the original football side belongs.

4.) 17 Aug 2016
17 Aug 2016 21:03:43
Long time since I've posted. Before we all get excited about the Docks project, ask one question. Will the Council give permission for this, Walton Hall Park or even a re-development of Goodison. I wouldn't hold your breath. Everything we have wanted to do at Goodison has always had to be carried out within the Goodison 'footprint'. Council have fell over themselves time and time again for those across the park, but for Everton nothing. I've even heard that they still haven't given permission to tart up Goodison.

5.) 18 Aug 2016
18 Aug 2016 00:59:16
When both Walton park and redevelopment of Goodison was put on the table our bank account was very different. I for one don't care if the mayor sits in the second row of the park end every home game they are still a politician and they are a*******s and it's all about the money. So now Everton can pay more or less whatever the mayor or whoever it is that decides that stuff the made up price that they think we should pay. Think some parts of this city still want us to be the poor relative that nobody takes seriously but we have got the cash and we have got the man that has the brass balls to push through whatever is put in the way to get it done. I have always be Loud and proud with my support for this club so I suggest to all blues that have not got the memo yet cheer the f up good times are here to stay.