Everton Banter 2

11 May 2026 20:23:49
10th or just above finish this season means we have quickly found our level and can prepare to begin moving up this Summer. I echo what others have said a RB/WB is a priority along with at least one quality striker but please not Delap, Parrot or god forbid Wilson.

11 May 2026 20:30:16
After watching our last few games those players in would be the bare minimum, we have several that need replacing.

11 May 2026 21:03:50
We need to play some of those who sit on the bench week after week to see how they perform.

11 May 2026 22:31:32
Fully expect the owners to invest in the summer. My gut feeling is we'll see 4 or 5 come in. We have no attacking threat from our full backs, a couple of ageing, slow centre backs, no decent strikers, and too much reliance on a couple of attackers.

12 May 2026 07:49:17
Spot on, JB.

12 May 2026 08:42:47
We don't know what we have because, barring injuries, we only see the same 11 every week.

12 May 2026 10:14:05
C'mon now, sometimes he swaps Barry and Paul Chuckle about up top.

12 May 2026 13:26:16
We've been in dire straits for years and bizarrely some people are now unhappy with the job Moyes is doing. I personally don't agree with some of his decisions/tactics, but we've had a safe season for the first time in years (apart from him turning last yr into a safe season when he came in) and the club feels on a stable footing for the first time in a decade. We desperately need two quality full backs that are good going forward - but we're rebuilding and need to be patient. Everyone wanted immediate success when Moshiri came in - we spent woefully, chopped and changed managers, and became a mess of a club.


Interesting note on the strikers - I don't think either of them are good enough for where we want to be (but love Beto work rate and attitude) . Between them they've scored 14 in last 17 league games. Given that there's pretty much only ever one of them on the pitch at a time, that seems a pretty good return. Can't be many other strikers in the league that have scored 14 in last 17?

12 May 2026 14:06:53
Agree with what you are saying, Toffee, in particular over RB/LB positions, given that Moyes will not try Aznou, so no one knows his capabilities.
Good stats about strikers!

11 May 2026 19:46:20
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11 May 2026 11:12:41
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10 May 2026 21:28:51
VAR call in Arsenal game: goalkeeper obstructed goal cancelled. Not a word from commentators or VAR/referee about the on VAR/screen double arm around body of West Ham attackers by Arsenal.

10 May 2026 22:32:32
Yep, another case of a player with his back to the cross while grabbing the opposing player. It's an absolute joke now.

11 May 2026 07:22:25
I remember Mike Dean at the start of the season a few years back calling pens for this and it quickly stopped. Shame that, as eventually the players would get the message that it's hurting them and would stop. Refs have no bottle on this, and the whole corner situation is compromised in its integrity.

11 May 2026 09:40:56
In the Palace game, there were also a number of clear dives from their players which went unchallenged.

11 May 2026 11:56:14
I also remember when Mike Dean started that early season, and I am sure he was advised to stop doing it from the powers that be.

11 May 2026 18:27:54
Should just start giving pens, it's like watching judo from most set pieces. Just want consistency. 1 game it's not given, then later in the day a similar foul or handball is given. Shocking, because the refs all interpret it different or don't actually know the rules themselves.

They should wear shirts that have velcro holding it together, so if a player grabs the shirt it will come off in their hands. Simple.

11 May 2026 19:15:24
Read an article saying the 'grappling' incidents were looked at but because they were both doing it, it cancelled each other out. The incident with the keeper was the first one in the order of fouls. The attacking West Ham player who fouled the keeper was also being fouled - if he didn't impede the goalie, it should have been a pen.



Dirty tactics. Takes the fun out of the game. My 7 year old even stated "it's what you have to do these days". Games gone to the dogs.

11 May 2026 20:26:48
Cancels each other out. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

11 May 2026 22:23:47
That's what it said, Dms - daft isn't it?

Fouls a foul. If it's off the ball, go back and book them both. It'd stop them doing it.

10 May 2026 17:39:37
Know we are vertually done on Europe qualification, but please, please, please, can we put O'Brien in as c/back, Keane as an bench player, at best, I'm sure some Sunday league would love him, but sold as see, in case anyone takes him, then comes for their money back.


PS. Not just his goal, Betto was having a fine game, why take him off for Barry, made no seance.

10 May 2026 18:44:31
Certainly made no sense when it was clear both Ndiaye and KDH were off it today.

10 May 2026 18:54:08
Made no sense to bring Alcaraz on in the 94th minute either. Daft subs today. Team should have won it, but Moyes made his usual substitutes.

Should have buried that game in the first half.

10 May 2026 19:26:12
Agree BMD about Ndiaye and Dewsbury Hall. Both have been guilty of extremely poor finishing in past few games. Hopefully, they get their shooting boots back on for last couple of games. Also, I thought Tim was our best player today. Didn't stop running and put himself about. But knowing Moyes, he will put Gueye back in once fit.

10 May 2026 19:59:05
It seems certain players just get a free pass. KDH and N'Diaye were well off it, yet they don't get taken off, whereas you'll probably see Rohl dropped after today. Keane and Tarks should not be starting together, but they do every week, leaving our best (fit) CB at right back. Also, Patterson never gets a look in.

10 May 2026 20:39:09
The signing of a RB is a must this summer, as OBrien is badly needed in centre of defence, in particular, as we don't yet know the full extent of Branthwaite injury, or his long term situation.
It may also mean the signing of another CB to avoid long term use of Tarkowski and Keane.

But not Stones (no doubting been a classy player) as he will be expensive in terms of wages, and is proven to be unreliable in terms of fitness over many years.

11 May 2026 03:23:12
I think that Europe is beyond us now & the dust should be allowed to settle.
I thank David for his service, but we need a more progressive manager to take us to the next level.
Definitely has to be O'Brien with Branthwaite at centre half next season. Tim & Merlin should be playing when fit.
I think we need a right back (surprise) & a striker (no way) .

Bet you didn't see that coming, & I'm always available if TFG want to give me a bell.
Overall though, I'm happy to have been worry free in April/May, but we have so much potential that a good positive coach could easily take us top 6 or higher.

NSNO UTFT.

11 May 2026 13:35:10
I worry that Branthwaite is going to be another DCL.

{Ed025's Note - i would not be giving up on him just yet DMS..

10 May 2026 16:22:00
Disappointed again with our performance and result. Missed chances, poor defensively and Moyes' refusal to make changes have cost us another 3pts.

The defensive problems are well known, Keane and Tarkowski can’t play together as they’re too slow and not sharp at all. We have to score 3-4 goals to win a game.

We created enough chances today to score 3+ goals, but KDH and Ndiaye let their teammates down with their poor finishing.



As for Moyes in-game tactics or lack of them, why bring Alcaraz on in 93rd minute? It was blatantly obvious we needed fresh legs and KDH was struggling in all departments. A blind man can see how poor we are defensively, so why sit back and invite crosses?

10 May 2026 16:49:33
It is mystifying, Joe.

10 May 2026 18:20:17
It's inevitable. We know, the team knows, and the opposition knows that we can't retain a winning position at the end of a game.

{Ed025's Note - its a flawed mentality for me Mike especially with the defenders who seem to panic when the pressure is on mate..

10 May 2026 19:31:00
Agree Ed025. We go to pieces in last few mins when under pressure. It just seems instilled to the team to be nervous and make mistakes from 85+ mins. But that's where Tarks should be willing them on. Can't fault Tim, Garner or Beto on today's performance. They put everything into it. Thought Rohl had another decent game considering he's not a right winger

10 May 2026 16:07:15
It's a funny old game.

Probably playing the most constantly good football we have in a long time and getting very little to show for it. Such a competitive league right now, but I guess at least we are now competing.

10 May 2026 16:58:21
Hmmmm?

10 May 2026 16:06:38
No coincidence that since Branthwaites been out we’ve been conceding sloppy goals at the back leading to dropped points… Would of been in 6th place right now with out the sloppiness at the back!

10 May 2026 16:51:33
Or look at it another way. We would have won those games if our forwards could actually put the ball in the net.

10 May 2026 16:59:23
Hit the nail on the head there, BMD, so many chances in our last few games.

10 May 2026 17:48:13
I reckon Beto and Barry cost us quite a few points this season. I am talking about couple of fistful of chances that were easier to score than miss. I would add, though, that teams are not going to roll over for us and scores such as this 2-2 result against a good side away is pretty darned acceptable.

10 May 2026 18:23:12
Yes, we should convert more chances, but we are set up to be a defensive team, and we are crap at that, especially at the end of the game.

10 May 2026 18:48:43
We have an awful lot of ball watchers in our defence. Palace realised that all they had to do was put the ball into the box and chances would come.

10 May 2026 16:05:44
Can anyone explain to me why a side who have made a Euro final and allegedly been on the piss for 3 days, at 2-2 75' show more desire to win the game than Everton who must win.

I don't think it's the players, I personally think it's the negative donkey in the dugout who actively refuses to have a go.

Everton start great, get the opener today. Then sit back and wait to concede. Good tactic considering the 2 donuts at CB. Again something the manager could adjust considering our 2nd best CB in the squad is at RB.

Everton score again, and surely every blue knew once again: okay, we'll try and defend the 2-1 rather than get 3-1. Inevitable, once again, mistakes from the CBs.



It's the same story every game, Everton are directed to contain when in a desired position no matter who the opponent is.

Glasner, a manager whose only desire is to win. Absolutely proper. I'd kill to watch my team play with that desire. Sure we'd lose plenty, but for me I'm sick to death of our safety first style. Where does it get us? Absolutely nowhere because we're still a bottom half team in probably the easiest season in memory to make Europe.

Glad we have a £42m winger on the bench that was last seen before Christmas. No other manager on the planet would refuse to give him 10 mins in our position. Suppose at least Charly Alcaraz got 90 seconds today.

10 May 2026 16:53:41
Once Palace realised we couldn't defend crosses we were f***ed.

10 May 2026 17:33:11
If the players could convert their chances, then we wouldn't be having a dig at the manager. Be interesting to see how many points we've dropped due to missed chances this season. The Premier League is unforgivable. If you don't score goals when the chances arise, then you invite pressure from the opposition and, without JB at the back, we are prone to conceding stupid goals.



Every fan has a right to bitch and moan about the manager, players etc. I'd say we have improved this season despite not having a class forward up top. Address that this summer and we will be in a better position again this time next year.

10 May 2026 19:23:02
I agree, blue potato, but if a player is having a bad day/game I firmly believe it's down to the manager to make changes. KDH had a stinker today. He's a quality player but he had an off day. Alcaraz was on the bench. He tormented Palace last season and nabbed an assist and goal. He brings him on in the dying stages of injury time.

That was possibly the worst decision I have seen Moyes make. Less than two minutes to change a game. What does that tell Alcaraz bar "I don't think you are good enough"? The decision baffles me. It was pointless. We weren't killing time, we were supposed to be out to win it.

10 May 2026 21:28:12
I think the worst decision was to bring subs on in extra time against City (excluding the injury) . I said to my son at the time, why bring on subs now, when all it does is give the ref the opportunity to add on time? Sadly, we know how that worked out!

10 May 2026 15:57:06
Well simply have to win our last two games.

10 May 2026 16:22:30
Can't see us beating either of them, GB. We should of been out of sight today. But I felt every time Palace attacked they was gonna get 1. Sunderland game will be a draw, and Spurs will beat us if they need to stay up.

Glad we are all pist off about missing out on European football (I know it's still possible) than s***ting areselfs about relegation.