Everton banter 8

19 Apr 2026 20:36:06
Forget today. Look at the price in squads and they should beat us hands down, but I think they would of been happy with a draw, but the jammy feckers get the win. Gutted. And how did Salah get Mom? Anyway West Ham up nxt and they are gonna be fighting with everything for a win.

Seems like all the teams from around 12 to 6th don't want Europe; none of us can get a run going. If Beto is out I would try George up top to Barry. I know he wasn't great wen coming on today but least he can control a ball and McNeil can sit up in the stands for me. Give dibling a run for me.

19 Apr 2026 21:08:11
Agree, wtf Salah motm?
Curtis Jones was their best player, but standout performer on pitch was KDH by a country mile IMO.
Beto was also vg today, but as soon as he left the pitch we were impotent.

Barry needs to be moved on. He didn't look great early season, but after the shenanigans with his mates, he looks more disinterested and can't be arsed than ever.

To be fair, I thought Jones played very well for them at full back, and it was his strong run that eventually led to them winning the corner that won them the game.

19 Apr 2026 20:14:24
New poster, first time etc. Loads of you have summed it up perfectly. We bring Barry on with 20 to go, never going to win us the game, can hardly run, no ball control, no physicality, no threat, says it all, we really really really really need a quality striker. In contrast the reds spent nearly half a billion pounds last summer. Feel very frustrated because we bossed them physically and technically for so long.

They were time wasting an£ moan8ng a5 th3 ref from minute 15. Need to remember we are So much better than the past 4 years, so much better in midfield and going forward, just need to try and find a couple of gems in the summer.
Thought we were really unlucky today and really hope JB is ok.

19 Apr 2026 21:09:49
Ref was totally inept!! First 25 mins, they kept wiping out players with immunity.

19 Apr 2026 19:54:30
We will finish the season 8th.

19 Apr 2026 23:31:01
I reckon 10-12th. It's too close in the middle to call it accurately.

20 Apr 2026 00:37:18
Would that get conference?

19 Apr 2026 19:17:19
Thought Gana was immense first half, but started to fade second half. We had Tim and Rohl on the bench, didn’t use either of them. In fact, out of the three we made, two were forced on us, and bringing Barry on when he is clearly not up to it was baffling.
As for the after match press conference, to say we lost to a team used to winning trophies and gave them a good run for their money.

What the heck does that mean?
If you always see yourself as second best then you will be second best. Sick of being the “well we had a go” team.

19 Apr 2026 19:41:57
Gana and a good few others seem unable to keep their fitness levels for 90 minutes, or, as the case today, 111 minutes. Surprised as you were that other subs went used today, can only assume DM thinks they are not what’s needed to win the game, mate.

19 Apr 2026 19:58:26
That's Moyes's go to comment after a defeat by a top 6 club, "we gave them a run for their money." I'm as bored with that as I am in losing to them.

19 Apr 2026 20:34:18
That is why, under Moyes, we will always be a mid-table team. Compared with previous seasons, that's fine for some, but not for me.
Beto is not the best, but bringing on Barry is baffling, to say the least, and presumably McNeil was playing instead of George because he is better defensively. So McNeil immediately presents them with the first goal opportunity. Neither of these players should be anywhere near the team.
When they got that corner you just knew that they would score and who would head it in.

That's what kills you as an Evertonian, and until we get a manager and a team that is capable of repeatedly reversing this trend, then we will have to put up with mid-table mediocrity.
I was hoping that Moyes would be the man to do it, but his words, tactics and substitutions indicate that he might not be that man.
Europe is still within our reach, but the season could have been so much better.

19 Apr 2026 20:49:39
Chris Sutton said last week on Football Focus if Everton had a decent center forward they would be a couple of places further up league. All the teams around us and above us have 1 or even 2 decent forwards.

Beto would not be a starter for me, yes he runs, yes he tries, I love the guy and wish he was decent, but we need better. And Barry can just go for me, can't stand him, get whatever we can for him.

19 Apr 2026 20:54:57
Word perfect there, Bmd. Word perfect.

19 Apr 2026 20:57:27
Maybe I am in the minority here, but for me McNeil and Kdh should have come off. As Bmd said, we had Tim and Rohl ready to come on. Move Jimmy into the 10. He is a better footballer than anyone in the team and people forget, he had arguably his best season in that position, albeit in the Championship.

Bring Tim or Rohl next to Idrissa.

No imagination to change the team. You see that with the same starting 11 week after week, even though McNeil was shocking away at Brentford.

19 Apr 2026 21:17:09
Moyes baffles me. Could see players were getting leggy, but mo changes. He has stabilised us, made us forget about relegation & seen us through the always difficult task of moving to a new ground. However, I think the Freidkins will be looking at other options come the summer. If they're going to invest to build a squad capable of challenging, then we need a manager who can change tactics & personel mid game.

Unfortunately, DM isn't that man.

On the upside, it's a lot nicer moaning about not qualifying for Europe over praying we get enough points to stay up.

NSNO UTFT.

19 Apr 2026 21:47:38
Thought Idrissa looked knackered as well, tbh, and what's happened to young Armstrong?

20 Apr 2026 00:39:11
Move Moyes upstairs and get the Bournemouth manager Iroalo, or however you spell it.

19 Apr 2026 17:50:53
Can’t blame Barry for the loss today, but he will never make in the Premiership. As for Beto, he has stepped up and his game and is far better these days. Can’t understand why our fitness levels are so poor; most of the team looked knackered after 60 minutes.

Definitely took a hit today to get into Europe, but next up West Ham, so cmon you Blues.

19 Apr 2026 18:19:41
It is worrying that the players looked so spent. It's not like we are playing too many games.

19 Apr 2026 18:56:18
Barry was awful, gb, and needs binning in the next window. But so does his competition. Beto is not much better despite scoring today. That shot in the 1st half would have changed the landscape of the game if it had gone in, but no, it almost went out for a throw ffs.

We can blame the manager, the tactics, the subs, etc, but if our forwards are wasting so many chances to get us a lead then we are basically p*ssing into the wind. Sick of it in all honesty.

It's not the end of the world but it still stings! Their fans are some of the worst away fans I've seen at our new ground. Only heard them 2 or 3 times, twice when they scored!

It's been mentioned many times, but our home form hasn't been good enough and I put that down to both the fans and players finding their feet at a new stadium.

We have to make it into the same kind of fortress that Goodison was and we will get there in the end.

A few games left but it has been a better season than we all expected before a ball was kicked. Improve the squad, finally fill the positions that we need to strengthen in and I think we will be sound for the coming season.

Hard to take that defeat today but we have to move on and concentrate on the Hammers game next up.

UTFT.

19 Apr 2026 19:07:17
I've slammed Beto in the past, but he is miles better now than he was. Yeah, that shot was embarrassing, but his touch and his link up play is almost there. Hope he's ok after that smack in the face. Looked like he'd fractured his eye socket. ? ??

19 Apr 2026 19:20:33
Actually, thought we were best team today, which I can't remember in a Derby for a long time. KDH was great. Once Beto went off, as I thought he had a great game, our chance was over. Let's move on and get 3 points from West Ham - COYB! UTFT!

19 Apr 2026 19:25:04
That's the problem though, BM, because he's the best out of the two we give him a pass. I've lost count of the times his glaring misses have cost us this and last season. Nice fella, works hard, but just isn't good enough.

We need to make a statement signing this summer with a forward who can take us to the next level.

Sadly, Beto just isn't the man to do that. I'm not blaming him for today's defeat, but it could have been a different game if he buried that first half chance rather than trouble the corner flag.

19 Apr 2026 19:52:01
Barry's control is worse than his awareness. That first touch is criminal. Beto has heart, but the scouting team needs to look at themselves. Neither player has a great first touch. But Barry leaves me scratching my head, he's not in control of his motor functions.

19 Apr 2026 21:28:08
Chris Sutton made comment after comment about Barry and his lack of awareness, movement and touch. It was hard to disagree with any of the negativity he had regarding Barry.

Absolutely gutted with that result today as we did play well in periods, but our weakness with both full backs and in attack need addressing and have done for a few years now.

19 Apr 2026 22:13:30
Barry's first touch is equivalent to a clearance by opposition defence. He has no interest, physicality, or skill. He's a waste of a sub and a position on the bench.

19 Apr 2026 16:45:23
Keane, O’Brien and Tarkowski all giants, and we can’t win a header in our own box. He was literally the only player they needed to mark. ??.

19 Apr 2026 17:20:05
So disappointing to lose a goal that way. Tarks was out-muscled.

19 Apr 2026 17:20:08
Tarkowski wanted to fight two of them trying to be the big man as per BMD. Can't believe Pickford didn't come and punch it either tbh.

19 Apr 2026 17:46:44
Fed up of losing to them in the dying moments of a match.

19 Apr 2026 17:57:19
You're right there, BMD, mate.

19 Apr 2026 18:05:21
Get a couple of fullbacks that can overlap and attack, and with Ndiaye on the left and Dibling on the right, we will be a totally different team nxt season. Plus a forward who can finish. Love Beto's enthusiasm, but he isn't good enough. Plus I would also play KDH in the middle with Garner, and use Idrissa sparingly if we decide to keep him.

19 Apr 2026 18:22:59
If you look at it again, Tarks looks like he's playing for the foul, while both Keane and O'Brien are behind VVD. Nobody is really marking the bloke.

19 Apr 2026 16:06:24
How did we lose that.

19 Apr 2026 16:22:32
They scored more (legal) goals than us.

19 Apr 2026 16:22:41
Moyes, Mykolenko, Tarkowski, McNeil, George KDH and Barry. That's how GB.

It's the hope that kills you.

Worst part is that it is so predictable.

When that goal was chalked off, you just knew they would go and score from some stupid mistake.



Then that corner at the end. Knew they would score before it was even kicked.

Couldn't have been a worse player to score either.

Just sick to the back teeth with it mate.

Said it plenty of times. We have 5 good players and the rest need gutting.

19 Apr 2026 16:31:21
Gutted we were the better team for long periods of the game. JB injury is very worrying, the lad was in tears. Wish him well.

19 Apr 2026 16:34:29
I actually thought KDH had a good game, pal.

19 Apr 2026 16:40:47
Who are the 5? Apart from Barry (not a footballer) . Only 1 I saw today, and it is the same player I watch at most home games. I have seen him have maybe one good half a season. The Squad will be strengthened in the Summer.

1st 11 we need a RB/RWB, RW and Striker. We may need another CB (or two) . Branthwaite, only 23, but hamstrings will be scarred and weak going forward.

19 Apr 2026 16:44:03
Ron, want to make it unequivocally clear here, not firing back at you here, mate, but how did he have a good game? He lost the ball more times than he retained it and got leggy as soon as it hit 70mins.

The assist bailed him out, like his goal against Brentford did.



Lad seems a great character and he has his fair share of goals and assists this season, but I think he is bang average with his overall play. He loses possession consistently and his passing is absolutely shambolic.

Will get pelters for this, but I just say what I see.

19 Apr 2026 16:54:59
I don't get the KDH criticism. He is an excellent player, and if you give him runners in front of him, he will always find them.
One of the reasons we lost is because our two forwards are absolutely rubbish. I don't care whether they try, they are woeful.

19 Apr 2026 16:55:39
Fair shout, BN, but I disagree. Thought he was 1 of our better players today. Each to their own.

19 Apr 2026 17:01:41
He was RonMac.

19 Apr 2026 17:08:51
Moyes's fault? Really?

19 Apr 2026 17:15:03
Same old for me, JB. As soon as we had that goal chalked off, you could sense that something would happen.

How did McNeil stay on the pitch as long as he did.

KDH was visibly tired and we looked leggy in the middle. Trust the squad, Tim, Merlin. No changes.

They were happy with the draw.

You could see that by how they were draining the clock.

Game was there for the taking today and we had no impetus to take all 3 pts.

Manager and players lack of desire to win that cost us today.

Losing Beto and having him replaced by that stroppy mard arse didn't help us at all either.

19 Apr 2026 17:16:17
Pickford, JB, Garner, KDH and Ndiaye are the 5 Dms.

19 Apr 2026 17:21:22
We can play better than that, and didn't. Our better players didn't perform. Having the goal chalked off seemed to rattle us. Gutted.

19 Apr 2026 17:43:50
I have no rational way of explaining this, but I always expect us to lose against the top teams with Moyes as manager. As grateful as I am that he is a safe choice, he just isn't good enough beyond that.


Our manager is a safe choice, not a winning choice.

Moyes hater? No. But if you want to win against the top teams you'll need a different manager.
If you look at his record the wins are very few and far between.

19 Apr 2026 18:10:45
How do you explain us beating Utd and Chelsea this season? Does he get credit for that or do we just fuel the narrative?

19 Apr 2026 18:38:22
Agree with JB, we can lose to bottom teams just as easy, and we can win against so called Top teams.

19 Apr 2026 21:39:05
BN, I thought KDH had a decent game today as well. He did give the ball away a few times and looked leggy for periods, but he did make things happen for us.

I do agree with you. In regards to our players, we carry too many passengers far too often.

Yes, sometimes Keane, Mykolenko, McNeill etc. have a good game, but all too often, they are not at the level we need to push up the EPL. Hopefully we do get replacements this summer, and if we don't bring in a right back, the recruitment team should be sacked.

20 Apr 2026 10:47:08
The explanation is in the post, JB. Yes, we beat those two, but the wins are indeed few and far between. As I say in the post. The narrative of him being replaced? Yeah, I'm for that if it means we're more competitive, and we win stuff. Wouldn't you be?

19 Apr 2026 16:00:24
Aye, they'll be afraid to play us. Stop drinking.

19 Apr 2026 14:58:01
McNeil didn't even look. Useless.

19 Apr 2026 12:34:59
Good stuff cookie we are in the driving seat today 3 points it is mate.

19 Apr 2026 14:57:53
The ref's in the driving seat GB, and he's having a stinker.