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24 Sep 2024 22:50:13
Suggestion now that Freidkin has his eye on Carley as a possible contender. Would be an interesting option.
1.) 24 Sep 2024 23:09:33
Carsley sorry.
2.) 25 Sep 2024 01:12:37
Prefer him over southgate.
3.) 25 Sep 2024 07:36:35
Could live with that.
08 Sep 2024 18:14:29
Everton takeover bidder John Textor wants to bring in top coach Abel Ferreira if he wins control of the club. Ed002 is this waffle or does it have an element of truth? Seems unprofessional to band it about now.
{Ed002's Note - I have explained that Dyche may be at risk with an new owner but Textor needs to sell his Crystal Palace shares first. Such information being released would be massively disruptive to Everton. And what about the £1B plus debt?}
1.) 08 Sep 2024 19:58:04
Cheers ed. Just one more tune to add to the Everton opera.
2.) 09 Sep 2024 13:24:48
Afternoon Ed02 - are you still in the thinking that we will not complete a takeover before going into administration?
{Ed002's Note - I don’t know. The problem is the club need an income stream that covers the costs on a week by week basis and to pay lawyers to keep those owed money from grabbing the assets - and if that can’t be done the club needs to look to administration for protection.}
3.) 09 Sep 2024 19:32:56
The press haven’t been shy in heaping misery on Everton is recent months. I’m surprised that, if there was a real threat of administration, they haven’t been all over it. You’d like to think that Textor has a plan.
{Ed002's Note - Textor needs to sell his interest in Crystal Palace before he can do anything but stare at Everton from outside.}
4.) 21 Sep 2024 08:39:41
They can grab anyone of the first team players.
08 Sep 2024 18:14:29
Everton takeover bidder John Textor wants to bring in top coach Abel Ferreira if he wins control of the club. Ed002 is this waffle or does it have an element of truth? Seems unprofessional to band it about now.
{Ed002's Note - I think that eventually when a new owner arrives the Dyche will be at risk. Ferreira might be a reasonable option but a significant risk. If the potential new owner is sharing this type of information it could have a huge detrimental effect on Everton. He still has a significant holding in Crystal Palace that he would need to dispose of - and more than £1B of debt to deal with.}
1.) 09 Sep 2024 13:57:52
Just been reading that more financing for Everton is expected this week.
06 Sep 2024 18:33:30
Reading in the internet, Morshiri prepared to waiver £450M debt to sell his shares for £80M to £100M. If this is true, would this be a more attractive offer to rekindle previous interested parties. I know they would have to pay off loans but, would it be more affordable for them. Could ed002 perhaps throw light on this? Cheers.
{Ed002's Note - No, there is a misunderstanding. Moshiri owns more than 90% of the club and is owed £450M in addition. To sell he may hand back the loan - but there is still more than £600M owed to others.}
1.) 06 Sep 2024 19:36:17
£600m owed to people, it’s just unbelievable, the miss management is so extraordinary.
2.) 06 Sep 2024 21:39:27
How else would we build a state of the art stadium?
3.) 06 Sep 2024 21:42:40
I’d imagine it helps the cause for a new owner.
Everton’s value being around £500m, plus the other assets we have such as Goodison, training ground and new stadium.
Someone acquiring 90% shares for£500m, with loans of £600m. All of a sudden it doesn’t look too bad.
Restructure those loans, increase revenue from new stadium and in 3 years, we might be on the road to recovery.
I can’t imagine we will be healthy for a long while, but perhaps fresh out of rehab is a better analogy.
4.) 06 Sep 2024 23:16:40
Think we rent the training ground from the council and Goodison probably isn’t worth as much as we hope.
We’ll probably sell the new stadium to make ends meant.
Oh for someone with buckets of cash to ride to our aid and sort out the mess we are in. Anyone had a look down the side of the sofa and found a spare billion or two?
5.) 07 Sep 2024 17:46:12
Not New news it was reported during the 777 purchase.
Aside from the Rights and media debt the Friedkin loan replaced the MSP money and some to Moshiri and AB. 777s was towards the stadium and some operating capital.
Rights and media is an old loan used to buy players and keep the lights on.
£600million plus Moshiris bit for EFC and the new stadium isn't too bad a price some might say.
6.) 08 Sep 2024 13:06:23
Agree Smit. Any sensible investors will be looking at the potential income over time, not one season. The worry for supporters should be if someone comes in looking to make a quick profit, and looks to sell the club on.
{Ed002's Note - The thread is full of misinformation. Goodison cannot be sold by Everton as the Rights and Media Funding debt is secured against it.}
7.) 09 Sep 2024 14:49:40
yeah pretty much as Ed says
EFC owe £600m (minimum) in debt to a group collective of Media rights funding, 777 and now the Friedkin group
Farhad Moshiri himself loaned £450m total, but he is willing to write that off, probably as he knows he'd never sell the club for 1billion+
the 777 debt, is a sticking point for many due to the legal complications the group find it in now with a court date said to be heard, A-Cap/ 777 basically have that debt, but as Friedkin found out people don't want to touch that right now due to legality issues.
the Friedkin group essentially bought MSP's previous debt held over EFC, and helped EFC to complete funding payment of the stadium.
essentially EFC are in debt up to their eye balls, and that is what is putting most bidders completely off, as it's essentially valuing EFC as a £700m+ club, not only would they have to pay the £600m debts, it would be £80m on top of that to Moshiri and then they'd need to inject immediate funds themselves in to EFC as a proof
essentially it's a ridiculously high deal for investors for a club not competing at the level of others you could get for smaller costs needing MUCH less body work.
i'd be very surprised if Moshiri found a competent sale at these demands, and given the legality issues surrounding the debt owed to 777/ A-Cap, with that issue possibly not being resolved until next year. they'd need a consortium of billionaires essentially. there's also the question mark of the clubs stance in the PL throughout all of this, obviously.
Textor is very loud, and very much all mouth, which leads me to believe he is not a serious bidder, even before the Palace shares are resolved.
the biggest hope is Moshiri lowers demand further, allowing Friedkin group to come back, writing off their own debt in to equity and finding a way around the 777 issues.
it's a complete mess which offers very slim hope to a club living off player sales, with only one *big* player asset left to sell in Jarrad Branthwaite.
18 Jun 2024 22:35:37
Hi eds
Is it too soon to get excited about the proposed buyout, and should we be concerned if it does? I seem to remember ed002 saying it was not his preferred choice of buyer. Cheers.
{Ed002's Note - It is moving ahead. We are at the start of the process - Friedkin agrees a period of exclusivity with Moshiri > Conducts due diligence > gets PL approval for the takeover ensuring the MSP debt is repaid and wages paid in the interim through loans > talks to creditors about how their debts will be met > all directors go through the whole process to obtain approval from the Premier League, FA and the Financial Conduct Authority.
In the interim, the club need to make sufficient sales by the end of June to avoid a third charge.}
1.) 19 Jun 2024 10:43:27
Hi Ed, nice update hopefully goes through problem free as whilst apparently not the best choice would appear far better than 777 and also has previous experience in football and has done fairly well turning Roma around.
In respect to your comment regarding sales before the end of June and then it being also reported that we’re not keen for Branthwaite to be sold unless a massive offer are you able to shed light on who is likely to be sold before end of June to satisfy PSR issues?
Will the new deal with castore as well as the new deal with the internet company for the stadium also help towards PSR issues or would that be in a different period?
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - I cannot answer about the timings of transfers and certainly any new owner or sponsorship will not help with the historical PSR issues. Selling Branthwaite would be the answer. Selling other ex Academy players would also help. Selling the likes of Onana would help but would not bring in as much in funds as the ex Academy players.}
2.) 19 Jun 2024 20:29:13
Thanks for the reply.
Hoping if we do sell Branthwaite we get a decent price for him as the £35m reported that Utd offered seems way too low for him. Was very impressive last season and as poor as we were he helped to keep the second highest clean sheets in the league and would only expect him to improve.
Just out of interest who are the ex-academy players you mentioned?
Thanks.
3.) 19 Jun 2024 21:32:53
Dobbin.
4.) 19 Jun 2024 21:33:36
Jarrad’s scope for improvement is frightening. People forget he came into the game late and was schooled at Carlisle.
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02 Oct 2024 10:01:29
Do fans have any particular ideas for a name for our new stadium? I quite like "The Vauxhall Stadium" or "The Vauxhall" but it could clash with Freidkins idea of using Toyota as a naming sponsor. Other than that "Bramley Moor Stadium" sounds ok.
{Ed025's Note - the people’s stadium for me Nick..
1.) 02 Oct 2024 10:45:06
As long as it has a Kenwright and Moshiri end.
2.) 02 Oct 2024 11:50:27
The Big Reg arena has a good ring to it.
3.) 02 Oct 2024 11:59:16
"The School Of Hoofball"
4.) 02 Oct 2024 12:03:41
I believe they have named a toilet in Moshiris honour.
5.) 02 Oct 2024 12:41:27
How about "The Moshwright Stadium" DFS.
{Ed025's Note - or "Kenshiri"..
6.) 02 Oct 2024 13:10:16
Ha ha.
7.) 02 Oct 2024 18:36:42
How about the New Goodison, although I hear there’s a number of Banks interested so at least they’ve got lots of money.
I’d vote for us all calling it the new Goodison no matter who sponsors it.
8.) 02 Oct 2024 19:24:51
How about the young lady ?.
9.) 02 Oct 2024 19:28:21
Get Mr Kipling to sponsor us. It can be The Bramley Apple Stadium. ;)
10.) 02 Oct 2024 20:51:45
Everton Arena or Everton Stadium. Let's keep the name Everton, that's who we are!
11.) 03 Oct 2024 08:23:46
Hopefully Toffifee put a bid in.
12.) 03 Oct 2024 11:45:29
How about the NSNO stadium. Then they have no choice but to live up to the motto.
13.) 03 Oct 2024 13:04:16
Minus 10 stadium.
14.) 03 Oct 2024 13:39:00
The St Domingo’s Stadium.
15.) 03 Oct 2024 17:32:14
Footy McBallface ? let's put it to the vote ???.
16.) 03 Oct 2024 18:21:42
Sounds good that Toffee Ace.
17.) 03 Oct 2024 18:55:14
Up till last last game we’d had more stadiums than points.
18.) 03 Oct 2024 20:46:17
The premier leagues corrupt stadium. Imagine sky trying to get out of saying it.
{Ed025's Note - i like that Cookie..
19.) 04 Oct 2024 19:57:22
If DCL stays we could call it the ROYAL Blue stadium. Spent most of his time in Hozzie.
28 Sep 2024 20:51:45
Rumours that Southampton might sack Martin. One of their targets could be Potter. Do you think Everton might jump quickly to get Potter? If they did get Potter it worries me that Moyes could make a comeback!
1.) 28 Sep 2024 21:28:06
Dyche has to go.
2.) 28 Sep 2024 22:59:19
Would Potter take on Southampton? Likely good is they will be another Luton this season.
23 Sep 2024 21:39:11
Assuming all goes well, how soon would the sale go through so Freidkin can start changing staff?
1.) 24 Sep 2024 07:38:43
Looks like Southgate is interested in the Everton job?
2.) 24 Sep 2024 08:40:10
they hope for a completion before Xmas (latest)
3.) 24 Sep 2024 09:09:52
Of course he is interested. Heck of a difference between National and Club level Management though.
4.) 24 Sep 2024 09:27:07
So long as it's in time for the winter window.
23 Sep 2024 16:30:43
Christ it's starting already. New owner not yet in and criticism of who he might bring in. Let's get behind this guy and whoever he appoints and give them all a chance. Let's make Everton great again. COYB.
1.) 23 Sep 2024 16:47:37
For sure Nick was reading the same thing, next will be all the problems with Freidkin, can’t win ‘em all Buddy, really chuffed myself long awaited and hope he is the guy to lead us out of this mire.
2.) 23 Sep 2024 16:55:23
It's a banter site Nick. So people can have a view on who the manager might be. It's called having a debate mate.
I will start it, I definitely don't want Southgate. Their you go you can now agree or disagree. Banter mate.
3.) 23 Sep 2024 17:00:53
What are we all drones now? Nice to have something different to talk about for a change.
Watched what Southgate did with England, and think if we brought him in then not a lot is going to change.
4.) 23 Sep 2024 17:05:34
I know it is. Potter is my choice but if it's not to be then I will back whoever is picked.
5.) 23 Sep 2024 17:18:17
I’d rather we swerved Southgate, another one who doesn’t know how to make a sub or play on the front foot. Hoping the net would be spread a bit wider than the couple mentioned.
6.) 23 Sep 2024 18:01:56
I believe he wants Ralph Rangnick. You heard it here first ??.
7.) 23 Sep 2024 18:26:57
It's unlikely to be De Rossi that's all I know ?.
8.) 23 Sep 2024 18:40:52
Hopefully Dycheball just for a few more weeks. Wonder what Dyche is thinking now? Would love to be a fly on the wall when he meets Freidkin and gives him his jive on how well he's done and how he saved us.
9.) 23 Sep 2024 19:34:48
Southgate a definite no for me for me if i had the chance i would sack thelwell get david weir and get potter as manager we need to start top from bottom get foundations in place get high wages down get fans onside doesn't have to be attacking philosophy but passion and desire an effort woudnt go a miss sell the likes of Keane holgate alli maupay beto young an go for younger hungrier players not bothered if they use are club as a stepping stone but sick of buying over hyped overpriced and certainly over aged players in the past we need to be sensible get a new ceo in place get someone inside the club who can talk to fans to give feedback to the new board if successful not expecting miracles overnight but i'm hoping there a 5 year plan in place to address the club from top to bottom.
03 Sep 2024 12:13:05
On a lighter note. Whilst laying on my sun lounger by the pool in Turkey, I've been running my eyes over some figures By eck there's some cracking lasses with stand out figures here by the pool. Football figures! Hell no! Not given it a thought. In my mind I've scored more times this afternoon then our shambles have this season!
1.) 03 Sep 2024 13:43:26
That reminds me Nick, we need go two up top ?. Enjoy your holiday ??? ?.
2.) 03 Sep 2024 13:55:30
Bit chauvinistic that Nick. Hope there’s an equal amount of mental scoring going the other way otherwise best to stick to football figures mate.
10 Oct 2024 22:27:04
He has some pedigree but not sure how he would do in the EPL. Better than what we've got that's for sure. I still fancy Potter.
09 Oct 2024 18:04:23
I certainly wouldn't throw any money at him to try and improve him. You can polish a diamond but you can't polish a t. d.
09 Oct 2024 17:06:42
I did read they planned to beef up the management team to support Dyche, gulp!
06 Oct 2024 13:35:00
We play so much hoof ball I think we could do with a farrier when fitting players with boots.
05 Oct 2024 15:27:09
Let him go if that's his loyalty to Everton. Invested time and money on him and won't get anything in return.
12 Oct 2024 13:32:11
I'm guilty too. Followed Alan Ball from Blackpool to Everton as he was my favourite player. Such a shame we should revert to tribalism in football. Will I be classed as a migrant if I come to watch Everton in future? In all the towns I have lived, I have made efforts to watch the local team when possible. Perhaps I shouldn't as the locals might consider me alien. I thought football was for everyone and we were the peoples club. I did read once that only 60% of fans come from the area. If that's the case how will you fill BMD each week if only 20+ locals turn up. Thank god i'm not black, LBGTQ, disabled, or from Mars.
11 Oct 2024 16:16:58
I wonder if he will be dropped.
11 Oct 2024 13:20:40
As long as it's not our bench Tomtom. He might be having a poor spell but he pulls us out of it time and time again. I agree, drop him for England for a few games, but I don't think we can risk it at club level. Just my thoughts.
10 Oct 2024 00:27:28
I used to live in Bispham and there were loads of Evertonians in and around the area.
08 Oct 2024 12:47:09
Get rid asap. Today would be a day too late. Tomorrow would be long overdue.