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09 Aug 2022 14:07:55
Any substance to the Daniel jebbison from Sheffield United rumours?

Not sure how much he is, but would seem to fit the profile of young player with sell on value - however not sure if he’s better than simms and broadhead who we’ve loaned out.

Gingerdan

{Ed002's Note - Daniel Jebbison (S) Everton had an offer rejected last summer but could return with another. Brighton and Union Berlin have a declared interest in the Canadian.}


1.) 09 Aug 2022 15:36:02
Cheers Ed, thanks for the reply.
Would prefer him over Batshuyai.


2.) 09 Aug 2022 16:43:01
I would love Jebbison, think he has something about him that could be developed

Do you all feel we will only add one attacking option?
I am sure Ed said we were looking to add before Richy went so would we be looking at two?
Unless McNeill was one

Still more to come I feel.


3.) 09 Aug 2022 17:46:37
Not sure why we would loan simms and broadhead and buy jebbison. He definitely isn’t as good as simms and not sure he’s even as good as broadhead. Surely we need proven premier league ability like batshuayi considering our predicament?


4.) 09 Aug 2022 20:12:35
GD why would you prefer him over Batshuayi? The latter has a fairly average record in the premier League, jebbison has a fairly average record in the lower leagues!


5.) 09 Aug 2022 22:06:31
Batshuyai 28yrs old with 15 goals in 77 premier league games. Hasn’t set the world alight, can’t get into the Chelsea team - Werner kept him out! Didn’t do amazing at palace on loan.
Think if he was going to be an amazing striker at 28yrs old having played as many games as he has he would have been snapped up already or atleast managed to get a start at Chelsea.

Jebbison 19yrs old with 1 goal in 4 premier league games. 7 goals in 20 games in league one last season when on loan at burton. Didn’t feature much for Sheffield Utd when returned from loan but that was because the manager didn’t want to put too much pressure on him as he was only 18 and wanted to bring him along slowly. Has the potential to develop into a top striker.

As Jebbison is 9yrs younger and has the potential to improve compared to batshuyai who at.


6.) 09 Aug 2022 22:08:28
28yrs old has not really kicked on. I would prefer chancing the younger of the two.
He would also probably cost a similar if not smaller amount and would be on lower wages.

Jebbison of the two i’d imagine is the least expensive and less risky proposition.

That’s just my opinion though.


 

 

07 Aug 2022 21:33:46
Bold move from us using our last loan space for Coady - whilst think he’ll be a great addition and definitely makes our defence a whole lot stronger still leaves us light up top.

Would have thought striker may have been the priority - be interesting to see if we look to make a purchase for a striker now with no loan option available.

Also leaves Gilmour at Chelsea in a bit of a pickle having being heavily linked with us most of the summer can’t see that now happening as can’t imagine we’d buy him - particularly after he’s only just signed a 2yr extension at Chelsea so price will have increased.

Gingerdan

1.) 07 Aug 2022 21:50:40
A striker or two will come in before the window closes.


2.) 07 Aug 2022 23:11:32
Haven't seen anything to say Coady is definate nor Gueye.


3.) 07 Aug 2022 23:51:55
Gueye is waiting for the second part of his medical to be given the green light and waiting for his visa to come through ducks have some faith bud your terribly negative.


4.) 08 Aug 2022 08:15:47
I am a pro-active opposed to reactive person. Plan/ be ready for the worse hope/ accept the best. Taught and served me well.


 

 

07 Aug 2022 12:53:05
If rumours are to be believed looks like Connor Coady for £12m with some add ons. Could be done this week apparently.

Gingerdan

1.) 07 Aug 2022 13:10:50
Would take that all day long mate imagine our defence would be one ot the best in the Premiership brin it on.

{Ed025's Note - I like him as a player GB but he said some nasty things about our club when we were in danger of going down. That’s not to say I wouldn’t take him though mate..


2.) 07 Aug 2022 13:12:42
Great signing if comes off

Leaders all over the pitch

Got to wonder who is going to leave as we are going to end up with huge squad

Hollgate and Kean probs have a life line with Mina / Godfrey injured but surely they are top of a list to go at some point this season

Rondon - probs saved by injury to DCL

Midfield - some are going to be moved on surely - gbamin, davies, gomes for a start.


3.) 07 Aug 2022 14:32:02
Frank surely have most of them lined up for the exit mate.


4.) 07 Aug 2022 14:55:59
Surely Gomes and JPG are off, probs Allen too. Not sure about Davies though, think he may stay.


5.) 07 Aug 2022 15:03:14
that's my issue with him that Instagram message to a kopite saying hopefully that's put a nail in their relegation coffin and how poor we are and then tweeting has anyone seen Richarlison oh there he is in my back pocket all to play up to the kopite fanbase who lap that stuff up.


 

 

03 Aug 2022 23:36:03
Random one tonight from Fabrizio Romano:

West Ham have full agreement with Lille for Amadou Omana on £33m fee but there’s no agreement on personal terms.

Been told Onana prefers Everton as destination, as of now - this is why West Ham deal is stalling.

As we’re apparently skint not sure how this would happen - but have read that we’ve submitted a similar bid for him this evening.

Whilst could be a decent addition to midfield would have thought striker more pressing.

Gingerdan

1.) 04 Aug 2022 00:51:57
Lille aren't skint at the minute, sold bitma, renato sanches to name 2 . possibly we've offered a structured deal that they'll accept that matches west ham. and offered more wages.
Wonder if lampard has spiken to the player?
Anyway if we pull it, Thelwall deserves a lot of praise.


2.) 04 Aug 2022 01:30:21
Offer Gbamin in the deal and Gomes. Bit cash too and everything's golden ?.


3.) 04 Aug 2022 10:19:07
Dentie we’d have to pay £50m if we were to include them two ?.


 

 

30 Jul 2022 11:59:41
If rumours are to believed we’re in for quite a few players and all supposedly on loan - gueye, gilmour, batshyuai, Barkley, Broja,
Colwill, Cornet.
I’m sure there are even more.

As we’re only permitted 1 more loan signing who would anyone want out of the players we’re supposedly linked with?

I’d personally like Gilmour on loan with an option to buy.

Whilst he didn’t have the best loan at Norwich last season, he’s been outstanding for Scotland and would do a good job in the centre of the park for us and is better than we currently have.

Having just signed a contract extension at Chelsea think he’d be too expensive to purchase this window.

Whereas the likes of gueye and Barkley two players their clubs seem desperate to move on may be cheaper to purchase - however personally wouldn’t want Barkley back.

Gingerdan

{Ed002's Note - I expect you will be getting Barkley back.}


1.) 30 Jul 2022 13:00:41
There’s reasons everyone doesn’t want Ross back but looking at Franks and thelwalls transfer dealings at present look sensible and planned so I couldn’t argue with them if they want Barkley just got to back them and let them do there jobs rather than moaning and being negative straight away.


2.) 30 Jul 2022 13:04:48
Ed you’ve just ruined my weekend ?‍♂️
Will he be a purchase a loan or a freebie?

{Ed002's Note - I expect Everton will buy him.}


3.) 30 Jul 2022 13:21:57
I'd predict barkley will be a permanent transfer with a very small fee if not free. I'll be honest I think he makes us stronger. Like it or not.


4.) 30 Jul 2022 13:47:44
ED02 I'm guessing FL has given in to the people at the top pushing for him. To me it shows that they have learnt nothing from past mistakes and I'm now fully behind the 27 campaign to get this board out of our club.

{Ed002's Note - It is possible he has been pesuaded to give him another chance.}


5.) 30 Jul 2022 13:54:18
ED02 I'm disgusted at how our club is run they have clearly learnt nothing from the past 5/ 6 seasons and still want to interfere in the managers plans.

{Ed002's Note - Few clubs let the manager's run the show - they are part of the input to the process with the DoF, scouting team, etc..}


6.) 30 Jul 2022 14:25:47
I get the DOF and scouting teams but I will never agree with people like Moshiri and BK ect telling managers who to sign which is the feeling I'm getting from the Barkley deal. ED02 Can I ask does he think he will just be able to walk in the door and it's all going to be fine do you think he seen how we reacted to Rooney and feels that's what will happen to him as I can tell you now that's not going to happen this will split the fanbase and for me ruins everything Frank has done by uniting us.

{Ed002's Note - Firstly, Moshiri is advised by a couple of people outside the club - thi is not uncommon. If Barkley returns he should be given a chance.}


7.) 30 Jul 2022 14:27:33
Batshuayi, Gueye, Gilmour, Cornet.


8.) 30 Jul 2022 15:05:35
If Barkley signs up then support him. No point booing him or giving him jip even while warming up on sidelines. He should have 40k inside goodison cheering him on. No player plays well with no confidence, and booing him wi leave him like that. Past is the past, move on and don't harass a player for his past aggressions. We have no or little money. A team is being put together which is going to be stronger. Albeit, frees or loans. Barkley can pick up ball and drive at defenders. we haven't had that for few seasons, it's just sideways and backwards passes. We not going to be making big money signings for a while so to strengthen through loans or frees is fine by me. Save what we have money wise for a player that's needed. Batshuia too could be an astute signing for little (ish) outlay. Good international record and has been playing, but 3 out of 4 seasons on loan were abroad. Good back up to DCL, as is Rondon. New season coming up and I personally don't think it's going to be as bad as we are making out. Tarkowski already made huge difference to the team. Upwards and onwards my fellow blues COYB.


9.) 30 Jul 2022 15:25:13
I won't boo him but I won't clap him either bud for me he should never be allowed anywhere near our club again.


10.) 30 Jul 2022 15:36:32
Seeing reports PSG want almost full salary paid for Gueye.

Does this mean it’s a loan and we’re having to pick those wages up or is it a purchase and we have to pay remaining part of his contract up?


11.) 30 Jul 2022 18:00:34
Hes probably not on much more than he was with us GD.
His transfer was more about him wanting CL rather than for the wages.

Regards Barkley. Let him come back and blow us away with his effort and determination otherwise he's going to be sat on the bench getting some right stick.


12.) 30 Jul 2022 21:04:52
Wind up merchant 02:)


13.) 30 Jul 2022 22:34:25
Does anyone think there’s been a misunderstanding with recruitment due to the wording, “We need a RB and have done for the last few seasons…”

I think Chelsea shouldn’t give up on him yet and keep giving him a chance….


14.) 30 Jul 2022 21:45:04
I heard kenwright is livid at the thought of barkley coming back. Any truth ed02?

{Ed002's Note - I guess he won't be then.}


15.) 31 Jul 2022 06:08:04
And I heard it was BK pushing for him back. If Frank is being persuaded to have Barkley back!


16.) 31 Jul 2022 09:39:25
Interesting comment there from Ed002 in response to Pauly - does that suggest it’s now unlikely Barkley coming back?

{Ed002's Note - Lampard is still resisting apparently. I expect Idrissa Gueye to be the initial priority and then talk to Chelsea again about others.}


17.) 31 Jul 2022 10:14:16
Fair play to Frank. I’d be interested to hear if Thelwell was backing it or not.


18.) 31 Jul 2022 10:19:35
Cheers Ed. Nice to see Lampard standing up to those who want Barkley back.

Ultimately at the end of the day it’ll be Lampard that gets sacked if he doesn’t get results, so makes sense for him to want players he thinks can get those results.

Be quite bad if Barkley signs, does nothing and Lampard gets sacked because of a player he didn’t want.

{Ed002's Note - There is a decent player in Barkley somewhere but he needs to have his head in the right place.}


19.) 31 Jul 2022 11:18:00
Thought he was a knuckle dragging Neanderthal?

{Ed002's Note - It does not preclude that.}


20.) 31 Jul 2022 11:29:29
I'm not supporting Barkley if he comes. Signing him is a terrible idea.


21.) 31 Jul 2022 17:28:50
I find it quite laughable how there are so many people ready to line up outside the club with pitchforks at the ready if we sign Barkley, but they are seemingly desperate to bring back Gueye. Yes Gueye was a great player for us but his recent homophobic escapades leave a very nasty stink that will follow him and lead to a hell of a lot of bad publicity. If you can forgive Gueye, you should be able to forgive Barkley.
Do i personally want to see Barkley return? - no. But he gives us more strength in depth and options to tinker with our formation. He has talent, he showed that when with us, and clearly Chelsea thought so too initially, so as long as the deal is within our very limited present structure then I'm ready to move on and just hope he improves us.


22.) 31 Jul 2022 18:56:03
I do find it laughable that a person is not allowed to support or believe what he wants do I agree with Gueye over his stance no will he agree with mine probably not but it's a very sad day when people are not allowed an opinion or to think for themselves and to compare his beliefs to Barkley costing the club money to line his own pockets is pathetic sorry Worcester but I respect your view on it but I disagree with it.


23.) 31 Jul 2022 23:14:04
Gingerdan we can only make 2 loan signings from the Premier league and only 1 from any one club but we can sign 2 loan signings from foreign countries which we have used 1 up in the signing of vinagre so in theory we could sign gana on loan for the season and still have 2 more loans we could take advantage of in the Premier league.

As of barkley I'm not his biggest fan like most evertonians but think I'd have him back because we are limited financially and barkley offers us something diffrent to anything we have in the squad he can run with the ball create and offers a goal threat so on that basis he's I resign him on a free if possible and I would definitely sign gana.


24.) 01 Aug 2022 08:15:53
David75 I thought it was 2 loans at any one time I'm sure ED explained it that way.

{Ed002's Note - That is correct.}


25.) 01 Aug 2022 15:13:27
There's a good player in Barkley. he ate 3 of them before he went to Villa. He's coming in just to make Dele look better :P
j/ k. love all our players. honest.


 

 

 

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11 Aug 2022 08:01:11
Bamba Dieng being linked with a move to the premier league with 2 teams apparently interested in him.

Personally never heard of him but appears to be a young striker which would fit with our current recruitment.

Gingerdan

 

 

07 Aug 2022 00:38:29
Gonçalo Guedes Valencia forward apparently had a decent offer from a premier league club.

Having previously been interested in him, Thelwell liking signing Portuguese players and our need for a striker I wonder if it’s us?

Gingerdan

1.) 07 Aug 2022 08:18:32
Wolves, apparently, Dan. We do desperately need a striker or two and rondon ain't the answer.


2.) 07 Aug 2022 08:54:10
Good if we could shift Rondon out to China/ Middle East and get in a replacement replacement striker. The move just didn’t work out.


3.) 07 Aug 2022 11:24:11
Guedes is not a striker and certainly not the striker that we would need.


 

 

04 Aug 2022 19:21:35
Wonder which one or ones of the following Chelsea players we may sign before the window closes:

Ampadu, Kenedy, Gilmour, Barkley and Batshuayi

Apparently none of them have been given squad numbers suggesting all surplus to requirements.

Gingerdan

1.) 04 Aug 2022 21:06:03
Batshuayi only wants a loan, out of contract next summer so likely looking at a big payout as a free agent next summer
If we are seriously interested in Bats maybe we should drop in a low transfer offer and only give a 1 year deal let him play for that big sign on somewhere

Gilmour might be worth a loan with an option to buy if Chelsea would accept

Not sure on the others.


2.) 04 Aug 2022 21:32:31
Personally I'm more interested in getting shut of players, still to many here from last season.


3.) 04 Aug 2022 22:12:27
Broja please keep the rest.


 

 

03 Aug 2022 11:17:02
With DCL potentially facing a while out I wonder if we will go back in for Broja?

Chelsea apparently don’t want to sell and he wants first team football.

Wonder with our finances if we go in for a loan for him.

A loan may be beneficial for all parties, Chelsea get to keep player, we get a striker for the season, Broja gets first team football whilst DCL injured.

Gingerdan

1.) 03 Aug 2022 11:47:22
Hope so I mentioned a couple of weeks ago we were interested in him we could do with him and another if DCL is injured.

{Ed002's Note - Everton have spoken to Chelsea about others - not Broja.}


2.) 03 Aug 2022 15:58:36
But dlc wasn't injured Ed002. Could we possibly try for a buy of Broja if finance's let us? Kid want 1st team football, which we can definitely offer.

{Ed002's Note - No, that is not seen as an option.}


 

 

01 Aug 2022 00:48:43
Looking like Idrissa Gueye coming back on a permanent deal according to Fabrizio Romano - will be interesting to see how much the fee is.

Also be interesting to see who the final loan space may be used on.

Gingerdan

1.) 01 Aug 2022 14:16:02
I think Gueye and Batshuyai permanent deals and Gilmour on loan for me that would be a fantastic transfer window.


 

 

 

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12 Aug 2022 10:38:22
Calm down Bobby. I imagine majority know it’s not a rumour site as such but a website where the majority of rumours doing the rounds can be accessed.

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12 Aug 2022 10:11:55
Interest in Gomes! Unbelievable.

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11 Aug 2022 16:16:22
From that it’s 2 as it clearly states that in the first.

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11 Aug 2022 15:07:27
GB totally agree it’s a rumour site however some rumours have more credence than others.

When it’s stating a loan to buy yet we’ve already used our allocation of loans this window then you’d think it was more nonsense than a rumour.

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11 Aug 2022 12:55:29
Take it with a pinch of salt as it’s on Transfer Tavern and newsnow.

It may be true, however usually wait for Fabrizio Romano or elbobble to update as they’re usually on the money with their info.

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12 Aug 2022 09:43:18
Rondon available at 40/ 1 to score 2 and 400/ 1 to score a hatrick - let’s hope the wingers give him a good supply of crosses and he leaps like Salmon Rondon to bag a few.

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11 Aug 2022 10:54:22
Indeed Brass.
With our injury record too much of a risk to loan a defender out unless we could have a clause in there that we could recall at anytime but that wouldn’t suit the team loaning player.

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11 Aug 2022 10:09:24
I can see this two ways:

If he wants to leave then why should he get a pay off as he’s moving to a different employer. None of us would expect a pay off if we chose to move jobs.

If he’s being made to leave then he should get a severance package as employer is choosing to move him on.

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11 Aug 2022 08:28:08
Keane, mina, Allan, gbamin and Gomes could all go for me - however cannot see us getting many if any offers for any of them.
Keane - regressing
Mina - too injury prone
Allan - age against him
Gbamin - injuries and off field antics
Gomes - was poor and poorer since injury.

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10 Aug 2022 20:32:40
Ed002 I know you’ve posted the rules before but are you able to clarify once and for all of now we’ve loaned 2 players that’s all we can loan for this window?
Thanks.

Gingerdan

{Ed002's Note - I have answered this.}