Everton Banter

19 Jan 2025 07:39:08
{Ed's Note - Shappy has posted a new article entitled, Manchester United midfield and inside forward positions

18 Jan 2025 18:34:33
See that's Leicester's 7th loss in a row. I wonder if they would sack RVN so soon after appointing him, and apoint someone who knows the nuts and bolts of the premier league.

18 Jan 2025 20:14:15
And or the championship.

18 Jan 2025 21:09:32
It’s like Leeds the other year…. Big Sam must be rubbing his hands together waiting.

18 Jan 2025 22:02:17
Let them sign Dyche… could give us a better chance.

18 Jan 2025 22:23:10
Better than his once a month £500 for a Talk Sport phone in.

19 Jan 2025 06:49:58
Far more concerned about us and the here and now.

18 Jan 2025 18:01:23
Have we got this wrong! Most pundits media I read have Harrison and Decoure' in their sides.

18 Jan 2025 19:49:07
That's why they aren't managers.

18 Jan 2025 20:50:28
Is it what they think will happen, or what they think want to happen? No fan that’s seen a few games this season would have either in the team.

18 Jan 2025 23:50:05
No we definitely haven't got it wrong. Replace these two with two good signings and the team will improve massively.

18 Jan 2025 18:00:52
Beto to lead the line tomorrow and bully their 2 cb's. He is much better suited to how Moyes plays than Dyche. No more playing it long and running in the channels. We saw a lovely ball through the lines from young Armstrong and an easy finish from Beto. More of the same please.

If he played midweek v Villa, he bags at least 1 of those 3 opportunities.

Dcl is utter dross. Yet people still defend him. Whilst Beto may not be easy on the eye or a talent football player, he is effective and will only get more effective when he gets a run of games/ minutes and we play to his strengths.

He might turn out dross as well but at least give him a chance. Dom has had his for the whole of the season.

You've got my backing son and I am thick enough skinned to take the dogs abuse on here for the above ^^.

3 pts tomorrow courtesy of a Beto unshackled!

18 Jan 2025 18:35:33
I hope he scores but he still needs to be sold mate, he's atrocious at this level.

18 Jan 2025 19:35:32
Beto is absolute dross mate - he can’t finish, control or pass.
He’s a championship standard player like all of our forwards - and joins a long list with Sandro, Kean, Toson, Naisse as total flops.

18 Jan 2025 20:20:06
He's like an oil tanker in reverse, he takes an age to get up to top speed, he's actually pretty quick when at full tilt but he just doesn't have any acceleration. DCL is twice the player. I'd be surprised if Beto starts unless DCL is injured or has fallen out with DM. Beto would do better in a 442 but that's not happening.

18 Jan 2025 20:24:31
Like most of our team available at the moment I’m afraid. Complete clear out needed in the summer.

18 Jan 2025 20:31:44
Beto = Bamby on ice.

18 Jan 2025 20:51:34
Scored in his last start didn’t he? Has to be worth a punt until we get someone better.

18 Jan 2025 21:05:51
I'd start Keane up front before either DCL or Beto.

18 Jan 2025 21:58:59
Always dreamed of someone bringing back the big man, little man up front. Unfortunately coaching school doesn't agree, the simple game being made over complicated. Beto isn't the big man but could he be with Ndiaye alongside.

18 Jan 2025 23:51:47
Stop it. Beto and DCL are not good enough. Get rid and bring in a proper striker.

18 Jan 2025 14:08:04
Watching Bournemouth and the Bar Codes is like watching real, entertaining football. Not the dross we’ve endured the last 5 years.

18 Jan 2025 14:55:15
Go on then.

18 Jan 2025 15:04:45
It’s more of a “why can Bournemouth look decent” while we are staggering season after season in Relegation fodder quicksand.

What can we learn from the Forest and Bournemouth teams? Not Newcastle, they do not count.

18 Jan 2025 15:53:44
Good recruitment and a good manager for a start.

18 Jan 2025 16:59:30
2 really good young CB's v a good young CB that has had the life sucked out of him and a carthorse who treads treacle.

Young attacking fullbacks that put every ounce of effort into a match

Workhorse CDM's

Pace out on the wings.

A manager that has a clear way of playing and has them all working cohesively.

Night and day.

18 Jan 2025 18:38:14
Justin klivert great example watched that match today he was absolutely phenomenal but semedo an there center half aswell think he's left back just shows you can recruit well on a budget that's what we havnt done but that doesn't mean we can't do it always potential out there just got to find them but areola he will go big club good manager.

18 Jan 2025 20:34:54
We have to remember that for the past 3 years our spending and recruitment has been suppressed as the Premier league have been determined to see us relegated.
PSR has stopped us in our tracks 🤬.

18 Jan 2025 12:42:30
Question, are Lyon any good?
Because we seem to be getting linked with half their team. Already have O'Brien, now looks like Nuamah's on his way, and latest rumour is Cherki being looked at too.

18 Jan 2025 13:06:34
Has Thelwell got a holiday home there?

18 Jan 2025 13:17:07
Probably better than us.

18 Jan 2025 13:39:54
If Cherki is available, I would pay double what we are for Nuamah. The lad is pure class.

18 Jan 2025 14:03:45
Absolutely BlueNose. Far better equipped teams linked to him. Class.

18 Jan 2025 14:05:50
Depserate for us to sign someone, but i'm scared of this nuamah transfer, purely because its Thelwells signing. I really hope he is actually decent, fulham wanted him in the summer so maybe that's a good sign.

18 Jan 2025 15:23:58
Seems all bark and no bite to me ST. Much better that we could go after imo.

18 Jan 2025 15:29:55
I actually would take any of their attacking mid/ wing players over him gents.

Cherki
Mikautadze
Fofana

All better.

18 Jan 2025 15:54:09
Linked with their players because they have to sell players.

18 Jan 2025 16:40:47
Sadly lyon are crap, they have been in decline for a number of seasons. Bit like efc!

18 Jan 2025 17:05:46
I would definitely love Cherki and Mikautadze, there are reports circling Cherki has £18.6m release clause! Problem is convincing some of these into the project
John Textor had a rant the other day because at present Lyon are relegated due to their financials so people are dropping low bids
Cherki is definitely the sort of player I would want as a number 10 pulling the strings.

18 Jan 2025 17:44:27
Yeah i am worried when Thelwell has anything to do with it. Cherki would certainly fit the bill.

18 Jan 2025 18:43:54
Ryan cherki would be a perfect example to buy good player but cause lyon are struggling that doesn't mean there players are bad to buy i always think there's gems out there an listen am not going to say were going to buy him but if he came to prem an ripped it up be bigger clubs will buy him from us but long they perform put shifts just part an parcel of football but if he does job for us or anyone else and they think are club are not reaching expectations that they deem were not reaching ie europe league champions league trophies then long that player has performed week in week out an wants join club that are doing that an we make profit then happy days in my opinion.

18 Jan 2025 21:22:12
I would be happy with that as well Andy, I would want to make loads of sales every summer but if we build a model of acquiring players who are young and can develop to then sell on firstly we become more financially sound and secondly players will see us as a team giving opportunities and development but don’t stifle their ambitions
I would hope we are actually back up challenging though as part of this so most might want to stay as we are matching their ambitions, that’s what we need to build towards 💙.

18 Jan 2025 09:13:38
Day 18 and still not a sniff of an imminent signing. I'm hoping it's because Moyesy isn't allowing any old rubbish to join, rather than no one wants to sign for us. I'm getting nervous though.

18 Jan 2025 09:16:47
How many transfers have all the EPL clubs signed?

18 Jan 2025 11:07:55
Wolves, Ipswich and Southampron have all made signings, we are still the same side.

{Ed025's Note - we are working on that Dev..

18 Jan 2025 12:55:13
Im sure theirs plenty going on behind the scenes, moyes has already stated we will only sign players who improve the current set up and that’s right. Pointless just bringing in new faces if they don’t significantly upgrade the team. Looks like we are working on Nuamah, Willian and Kyle Walker Peters, These 3 would instantly upgrade the team. We have to get this window bang on otherwise we are in serious trouble with the current crop.

18 Jan 2025 15:09:31
So 3 out of 20? Seems time to panic about then obviously.

18 Jan 2025 15:32:11
We could bring in non league players that are better than Harrison and Doucoure.

18 Jan 2025 15:34:55
Willian, Cherki and Walker-Peters would be massive upgrades on what we have atm.

UTFT NSNO IMWT.

18 Jan 2025 18:45:10
Walker peters be a bargain 5 min can play left back an right back good player definitely upgrade mate seen him. at Southampton an Tottenham good player.

18 Jan 2025 07:50:03
Hey Ed mate now that Davey is our manager, if we scour the lower leagues for young talent at a reasonable price and get them in, is Davey likely not to play them as was the case with our previous manager, surely cash will be available and PSR seems finished, but loads of money is out of the question, I can see maybe two or three from overseas who can come straight into our Team and improve it pronto but the clock is running mate does he even has a choice mate.

{Ed025's Note - PSR is still a big worry GB so lets not expect big names on massive wages mate, maybe expect a mid range player or two and possibly a young gun, but you are right the future has to be young players from lower leagues and DM has to take that on board, i just dont know if i trust Thelwell and his band of merry men to deliver..

18 Jan 2025 08:21:21
Maybe the time is right to bin Thelwel mate and bring in David Weir to join Bainsey and Seamus, can’t do any worse surely, we are starting with a new broom here mate let’s sweep all the old regime away.

18 Jan 2025 08:29:46
I’d like to see what Thelwel does this window with Moyes influence. We will find out if the poor signings are down to SD rather that Thelwel failing the club. Then if no improvement we know we have to change our DoF.

18 Jan 2025 09:17:36
Can we afford to wait another season Toffee ace mate.

18 Jan 2025 09:18:33
When do the new spending rules kick in, is it the 25-26 season, based on revenue?
I guess we can still get into trouble this season if we try throwing money about.
Need a big sponsorship deal on the ground and BMD to be full every game to get our revenue up.
BMD is a fantastic arena and should be called that, an arena!
Get the big music stars playing through the summer to get that money rolling in.
Also charge the FA a small fortune to host the Euros.
Just desperately need to cling on to premiership survival.

18 Jan 2025 12:44:18
Definitely not GB but this window without Dyche is almost a free hit at finding out Thelwels true value. Might as well let it run its course as it’s too late to change with less than half the month remaining.

18 Jan 2025 12:51:52
I’m with you on this Toffee Ace. I’d like to see who Thelwell brings in this window. If we only bring in three then two of them have to be a winger and a CF.

Hoping Chermiti is back in the team soon as well.

18 Jan 2025 15:39:21
Thelwell should be let go this summer whatever happens this window. We have a disastrous record with DOF, why can't we just let the manager decide who he wants?

18 Jan 2025 13:14:22
Ed I red an article saying psr for the stadium loans is now finished an not a concern anymore surely that makes way for extra funds.

{Ed025's Note - you would certainly think so Shakey..

17 Jan 2025 23:40:11
We are, if rumours are correct, looking at several, very promising young players, however, in our present situation surely we should be looking to bring in players who are ready to hit the ground running.
If we manage to save our neck, and are still a premiership side come summer, surely that's the time to be recruiting promising young talent.
A premiership club, with a new state of the art stadium, and a wealth owner willing to build a new team, the young talent will come, but only to a premiership club.

18 Jan 2025 09:51:17
At the moment we are a club that bring in players who just run around.

18 Jan 2025 12:21:06
Can't beat hard yards and hard work Brassington. No talent needed if you run around like a daft a*se.

17 Jan 2025 21:48:20
Hope the lad from Lyon works out if that is who we have set our eyes on. but I admit to feeling more upbeat when we go looking at those shining and making a mark in the championship like Fellows from West Brom. rather than someone whose stats in France have hardly set the world alight, yet does not come cheaply. just my gut instinct. may be totally wrong.

18 Jan 2025 07:36:03
If they are to be believed, some reports stated that DM would have the final say. I'd trust him when it comes to evaluating possible players, he's done ok for us in the past and he also bought quite well at the hammers. If anything, having final say will keep KT in check, he's brought in some disastrous players so far.

18 Jan 2025 12:45:30
Only seen Fellows a couple of times on the telebob, but looks a very good young player. Certainly doesn't lack confidence on the ball.

17 Jan 2025 21:03:00
How one or two say we played Dychey tactics on Wed is simply not true, no hoofball some good passing and generally better footy, reckon Davey was appraising the whole lot in match play and will have seen enough to bin half of em, and oh if it wasn't a bent ref that pen was a stone wall, I not having that we played Dyche tactics.

17 Jan 2025 21:42:34
Kick off Ndiaye played the ball straight back to Pickford who launched it up the pitch towards DCL. 🤷‍♂️.

17 Jan 2025 22:06:23
It's been a long time since I've agreed with everything you've said GB. Welcome to the light side.

17 Jan 2025 22:18:29
It’s often easy to blame the ref GB, but you’re right it did seem like everything went Villa’s way. I agree too, we were trying to be more positive and had several chances (compared or Dyche’s Everton)

17 Jan 2025 22:28:12
Agreed GB.

Ithought it was an improvement on what's been served up under SD. Got my fingers and toes crossed for some pace on the wings and a decent striker being added.

I’m still optimistic, that if we play like that for the rest of the season then we’ll be alright.

17 Jan 2025 23:22:40
That first ball from Ndiaye to Jordan could have been for any number of reasons, one or two balls like that does not represent hoofball,
think we could even accuse the Villa goalie of that, I still maintain we were better against Villa with Davey than with Dyche the previous game, everyone at the Club needs to support David Moyes, my opinion as ever.

{Ed025's Note - i think 90% are behind him GB but its a 2 way street mate, he has to prove that we can play better football and get better results..

18 Jan 2025 00:49:54
To me it was a game of 2 halves

First half very similar to Dyche in terms of only 40% possession at home, sitting back and letting Villa dictate, our only chances on the break which wasn't effective. Then they scored at the end of the half - another defensive mistake

Second half more of the possession but was that because Villa very comfortable when they are in front and weren't too worried about us. The crowd got behind us. A couple (only a couple) of chances but not taken or and didn't trouble the keeper. Harrison and Lindstrom did nothing again. No creativity from the midfield or full backs. DCL and Beto ineffective, Ndiaye a fairly quiet game. Substitutions late and made little difference, Not Moyes fault - its the team/ squad he's got

Some new manager bounce but nothing significant

Unlike GB I wasn't shouting and noooooooooing for Moyes NOT to come back. Anyone will struggle with this squad and its injuries. Early days but a glimmer (only a glimmer) of hope. We need to roar this side onto safety and worry about how to fix it next season.