Everton banter 6

08 Apr 2024 18:05:58
The club are saying the overspend is to do with the stadium and should not be counted. The premier league is saying it is not the stadium and it should be counted. Is the club just making stuff up? Is it written down somewhere for the directors to see what they’ve messed up on?

{Ed025's Note - i wish i knew mate..

08 Apr 2024 19:57:08
BBC radio Five live football finance expert said that the club are doing the same as Spurs did for their new stadium and the premier league allowed it for Spuds but said ours was not clear and hence it should be considered overspend.

What is going on?

{Ed002's Note - infrastructure is not considered. The issue is that Everton counted loans as working capital.}

08 Apr 2024 20:49:10
It just stinks.
You watch the rules will be changed for next season! How you can get fined twice in one season is beyond me.

08 Apr 2024 22:06:25
It appears (may be Everton PR porkies) , that the commission accepted Evertons submission that the first two years of this period have already accrued the 6 points as the last two years of the last period. Ergo the 16.6 overspend only attracting 2 pts. Have no idea what Evertons appeal can be based on.

11 Apr 2024 09:44:23
Because it worked last time, so their thinking might as well have another go :)

08 Apr 2024 17:42:19
We have some very winnable games coming up and our goal difference is better than those below us, its in our own hands so let's get on with it, we get 1 or 2 points back from the panel then it's even better, could have been so much worse.

08 Apr 2024 17:35:56
Given how long they fanny about with these decisions, you can guarantee that our appeal won't be concluded until after the last game.

One thing we can all be certain of is that come the end of the season, if we are 1 or 2 pts from safety, they will not be giving us those points back, like they did with Forest.

I can't wait for the all the media to come out now and tell us how lucky we are that we have had a further deduction so we can gain a sporting advantage due to it galvanising the players!

{Ed025's Note - i hear that the result of any appeal would be concluded by April 20th BN which is obviously after the season has finished, so every club down there will be left in limbo not knowing their fate, its a joke mate...but what do you expect from these cretins..

08 Apr 2024 18:18:55
Think you mean 20th May Ed as read same but yes that's yet another comical farce of a season that's had it's fair share already.

{Ed025's Note - i read April Mocker but it was second hand information mate so you could well be right..

08 Apr 2024 18:38:45
The season finishes May Ed and my understanding is a appeal would take it past this and something the clowns don't want. Think the April is the date they wanted it all resolved by to give a chance for an appeal.

{Ed002's Note - It is difficult to see any grounds for appeal and obviously one result could be an increase in the punishment. There is a drop dead date for appeals to be completed but the Premier League will want them closed out very quickly. The only clowns are Everton.}

08 Apr 2024 19:07:01
Think they are both a set of clowns Ed TBH.

Imo Everton should just accept the charge and move on as much as think we have been somewhat harshly treated we could have easily been dealt with more severely with us being a repeat offender.

Look forward to next season when City finally get dealt with and your Chelsea Ed, that is if the goalposts ain't moved again.

{Ed002's Note - well the Chelsea situation is very different and a large number of the Manchester City charges are simply noise - but there are a handful of very serious charges in there.}

08 Apr 2024 19:20:29
And for the integrity of football let's hope they are dealt with accordingly.

09 Apr 2024 12:21:44
I think the only clowns are the PL. You can't have PSR without having a clear sanction structure in place. Asking for 17 points to be taken off is abhorrent, they are just attempting to show they can self govern and regulate. However they are just making themselves look incompetent.

08 Apr 2024 15:58:22
Maybe instead of being backstreet lawyers we concentrate on Everton football club and the team.
What say we? COYB.

{Ed025's Note - i think its fine to discuss it Chalkie, we have been cheated out of survival possibly by these charlatans mate and i want everyone to know how i feel, you can bet your life that these points deductions will be scrapped after this season which will make my blood boil, City and Chelsea will be rubbing their hands together and laughing at us....we can name BMD the scapegoat stadium now..

08 Apr 2024 16:21:06
Ed025 is spot on. now they're talking about docking us points for interest payments on the new stadium. Why don't they just relegate us if that's the aim.

They will change the rules so Man City, Chelsea and other big clubs who we haven't heard of yet don't get punished. It's a stitch up and a disgrace.

UTFT NSNO.

{Ed025's Note - i think your right WT..

08 Apr 2024 16:27:53
I get that ed025, and understand how much we want to vent our anger, after all this site is very much used for exactly that, however to start to get in to the legal or monetary aspect does us no good as none of us really understand that side.
I’d love to get back to just discussing the football on the pitch.

{Ed025's Note - unfortunately Chalkie its hard to talk about the football we are producing at the moment mate, its abysmal and archaic and we are so hard to watch, bitching about our misfortune is all i have at the moment im afraid.. :)

08 Apr 2024 16:30:50
I understand that over a 100 charges take a long time to prepare for, but how can it be fair that a club with one charge is fast tracked into obliteration whilst the former is free to take advantage of the success gained off the back of ‘clever’ accountancy. Any team charged on the old FFP rules must be held to account in the same way that Everton and Forest have been, not that that’s consistent either.

{Ed025's Note - its a stitch up for me JB, this City case goes back almost 15 years mate and they have not been brought to book yet so im calling foul, i know i might sound like Kevin from Kevin and Perry...but "its so unfair".. :)

08 Apr 2024 15:56:48
Will be some great news if we this 2 point deduction reduced on appeal, but what a to do.

08 Apr 2024 14:29:07
Looking at our remaining fixtures I've got us down for 5 wins 1st of which will be at Chelsea.

08 Apr 2024 15:45:22
5 wins?
No offence but can I have some of whatever you’re on?
Our survival is in our own hands but struggling to see us getting many wins - got to hope we just manage to finish 4pts clear of Forest and out of the bottom 3 if even only on goal difference.

08 Apr 2024 15:55:32
I think we will struggle to get 3 wins. Forest Luton and Brentford will definitely be up for a fight. And I'll be pleasantly surprised if we get 4 to 6 points from those 3 games! Arsenal Chelsea Liverpool I see zero wins. Just my opinion. But who knows!

08 Apr 2024 16:14:30
Just have to hope we are up for it as well mate.

08 Apr 2024 16:34:34
Easy on those Monday meds son.

08 Apr 2024 14:05:50
2 point deduction if rumours are true board absolutely should be ashamed of themselves but now its up 2 our players are management to pick up many points between now end season and stay up i'm not going to lie i was expecting more points but we have game in hand its on us to finish season in prem and start from scratch from the top to bottom.

08 Apr 2024 14:03:52
2 points deducted. Better than I expected. Now at least we're not in the bottom 3 and we have a game in hand. Hopefully we can now put some points on the board!

08 Apr 2024 14:02:32
So, in their wisdom, the league have deducted another two points from us. Do the club take this on the chin or appeal the decision again?

08 Apr 2024 14:23:05
They have said they are going to appeal in a club statement.

08 Apr 2024 14:42:37
Surprised they have released a statement so fast, BR, usually takes them at least a day! Will have a read now, ta mate.

08 Apr 2024 15:37:18
It's no secret that we've been in a financial mess for years as Ed002 has mentioned many times we've spent beyond our means. We however have no option but to appeal because that would now be 8 points in total taken off us. Even if they win the appeal and can get it to 1 point it's something to celebrate.

I really have massive doubts about us staying in the league this year because we simply don't score enough goals. Obviously without the points deductions we would be doing relatively ok. I admit we are boring to watch. I really hate the hoofball style of play. We need to stop wasting chances because time and games are running out. Really important games coming up soon that are games we simply cannot afford to drop points in.

08 Apr 2024 07:38:54
Pure speculation with the charge against us to be delivered this week maybe today hopefully, but I reckon we will get a slapped wrist which would be brill we can then move on finally from this awful period.

{Ed025's Note - yeah that would be great GB...but dont hold your breath mate..

08 Apr 2024 08:20:06
We can live in hope mate, we are duesome good news eh.

{Ed025's Note - this is Everton mate..

08 Apr 2024 08:45:37
Whats you're thoughts on the points deduction ed 025 can you see us maybe getting a slap on the wrist or you reckon it will be point deduction and if we do how many in you're opinion or even ed 002 would we likely to receive mate.

{Ed025's Note - im thinking...nay hoping..that its a small points deduction andy, maybe 2 points, that will at least still give us a fighting chance i would say mate, any more and i think our days will be numbered..

08 Apr 2024 08:47:33
Slap on the wrist would be good but I think we'll get 4 points like Forest, the more I think about it.

08 Apr 2024 09:10:21
Well if we get 4 points will we get 2 back for being helpful chaps.

08 Apr 2024 09:51:57
Love it Woburn mate.

08 Apr 2024 10:08:27
?? love it woburn.

08 Apr 2024 11:43:10
I'm hoping that someone has the sense to realise that no matter what our transgression, 2 points deductions in the same season is grossly unfair and we either get them deferred to next season or get a fine instead.

{Ed002's Note - It is far from unfair. And as I have explained, I expect there will be a third charge to deal with for next season.}

08 Apr 2024 12:34:21
Ed002 - What do you think would be a reasonable punishment for this second breach?

Wouldn’t be surprised if was another points deduction but seems very harsh to get 2 points deductions in the same season.

{Ed002's Note - Typically repeat offenders would get an increased punishment each time. I would expect a further points deduction (maybe four points reduced from six for not hindering matters) to be informed to the club - perhaps even today. There will be a further charge if the club cannot make significant sales by June 30 to offset further losses. If that were the case then a transfer ban may be put in place.}

08 Apr 2024 13:56:14
If, as reported, they change the rules to financial penalty from next season, would that prevent possible points deduction and/ or firesales?

{Ed025's Note - thats a good point TL..

07 Apr 2024 19:26:58
Cmon you Spurs.