03 Aug 2025 16:40:42
Tyrique George from Chelsea now being linked to us.
03 Aug 2025 17:15:32
Would prefer this lad over dibling all day.
03 Aug 2025 18:18:12
Really?
03 Aug 2025 19:40:19
Why would you prefer him over Dibling?
03 Aug 2025 19:49:54
George is class.
03 Aug 2025 19:52:09
Thought Dibling was a very good prospect mate.
03 Aug 2025 21:29:01
George has an end product and not just a show pony. With youngsters you never know but if price is less with George would take him over dibling but just personal opinion George has excelled at pretty much every age group and other players have nothing but good things to say about him.
03 Aug 2025 23:00:24
I would hardly call Diblng a show pony. Have you ever seen him play? Only asking because I’ve never seen George play, but I have seen Dibling play and for his age the lad is a monster. definitely no show pony.
04 Aug 2025 01:27:41
BMD is spot on. Dibling is not a show pony. He works his bollocks off and wins fouls. He drives at defences with power and pace, close control, not by doing tricks.
Whilst I am not calling George a show pony, he is the one who does the fancy flick passes round the corner and step overs to beat a man.
Not sure what you mean about George excelling at every level. That reads as though he has put up crazy numbers and played through the age groups more than Dibling has, which just isn't true.
Dibling played U23 football at the age of 16 and bagged a hattrick of strikes from outside the box away at St James Park. He has played U18's, U21's, U23's with 33 PL games compared to George at U18's, U21's, and then 8 cameos in the PL. Diblings entire career games from U18's or above, 35% of them have been PL games. George has 12.5% of his games as PL games.
Dibling has amassed 1874 minutes of PL football to George's 177 for context.
League football aside. Dibling has played 8 games in the Domestic cups and scored 2 goals and 2 assists. George has played 3 with 0 goals and 2 assists.
Club international cups are incomparable as Dibling hasn't been fortunate enough to be at a club that gets in the likes of the Conference league etc.
International numbers still don't fall in Georges favour. They have both played from U16's through to U21's and Dibling has 5 goals and 3 assists to Georges 3 goals and 0 assists.
Hardly "excelled a pretty much every level". Or have they both excelled at the same levels?
Fair enough if you prefer the look of George as a player but to incorrectly label Dibling a show pony and imply that George is some clinical player with more experience is just nonsense.
Dibling has shown far more up to this point of his career just from the season in the PL alone.
04 Aug 2025 06:55:44
The real question is: can he play on the right wing? If they do, I’d take either of them right now. We really need someone on the right of attack who can emulate Ndaiye and make us more than one dimensional when going forward.
04 Aug 2025 09:11:15
Great response that Bluenose. I love me some facts and figures. I very rarely watch or follow any teams/ players that aren't Everton so when these youngsters get mention I know nothing about them. Literally never heard the name dibling until we were linked with him. I saw 40mil for a youngster and thought it was crazy high but when you compare him against others like that it really puts it into perspective.
04 Aug 2025 10:53:50
We need to get this lad Chris, he will very quickly become a fan favourite.
04 Aug 2025 12:12:22
Don't know much about this lad but feels like we're more likely to sign Gabby George at this rate.
04 Aug 2025 13:41:51
Pleasure Chris mate.
I understand everyone has their preferred taste in players but I am not a fan of when falsehoods are just projected as facts.
The lad is 19 and has an 81.3% pass completion rate in the PL, playing in a part of the pitch where it is notoriously harder than sitting in a backline and playing crab passes. To me that shows he looks after the ball well and makes the correct decisions.
There are even more stats that you can look into to disprove the show pony statement when you look at his defensive numbers too.
34 tackles to Georges 2.
27 touches in defensive pen area to Georges 1.
129 touches in defensive 3rd to Georges 11.
390 in mid 3rd to Georges 21.
369 in the attacking 3rd to Georges 39.
41 in oppo pen area to Georges 9.
110 take on attempts to Georges 5.
Tackled 39.1% of the time to Georges 40.
69 progressive carries to Georges 9. 50 into final 3rd to Georges 1. 26 into pen area to Georges 5.
30 fouls committed to Georges 3.
50 times fouled by oppo to Georges 0.
Tackles won 20 to Georges 0.
2 Penalties won. 1 at Old Trafford that Archer missed to Georges 0.
Ball recoveries 80 to Georges 4.
Aerial duels 35 to Georges 4.
George may turn out to be a decent player but if we were being calculated and picking between the 2, we should be going after Dibling every day of the week, even if he isn't coming cheap. It is not what we want to hear of course, as we want to keep our best players but the sell-on value for this kid will be through the roof. We would quickly double our initial outlay within a season or 2 in the PL imo.
04 Aug 2025 13:58:35
I will happily be proved wrong but hardly pulled up trees last season and £40m with no proven history is a massive risk. Clubs have bought proven quality in different positions for a lot less. I hope you all prove me wrong will happily eat my words but from what I seen of him very underwhelming. And the stats for George are a little misleading when the lad plays in a much better setup. Like comparing to a player form the championship if you are half decent you are getting a game at Southampton!
04 Aug 2025 15:07:49
Anthony Gordon cost Newcastle 45 million at 22 years of age with a season and a half in the PL and 7 goals and 2 assists and now he is one of the best wingers in the league. Were his numbers considered "pulling up trees"? or did Howe/ Newcastle identify his attributes and realise that he would be a much better player if he was placed around better players in a better system?
The stats aren't misleading in the slightest. The stats are per minutes played in each competition that they have played in.
Yes, Dibling has played more PL football than George so the numbers will be bigger but the percentage numbers per 90 are still apparent and that in itself gives more proof of his ability to perform in the Prem than George. The other stats are all for the youth levels for their respective clubs and the national team.
You say that George plays in a better setup which is absolutely correct, meaning that it should be much easier for him to look better and get goals/ assists in the minutes he plays, especially with the likes of Palmer, Neto, Jackson being on the end of things/ providing, compared to the likes of Armstrong, Archer and others. Dibling plays with fodder, in the worst team in the hardest league in the world.
04 Aug 2025 16:09:36
Like I say happy to be proved wrong. But everyone throwing stats at me fail to mention his lack of goals or assists after playing 30+ games. All you seem to have scouted him thoroughly so will hope you are all right. I was wrong about Gordon so could well be wrong again. Difference is other clubs wanted Gordon didn’t they? If this lad was that good why isn’t one other team in for him? If his stats are as good as everyone is making out every team in the top 6 plus utd and spurs would be looking but no one is interested! But like I say, I hope I am wrong! George also had same number of goal contributions in less than a quarter of the games in the prem.
04 Aug 2025 17:31:26
No one has mentioned that his goals and assists numbers are great. You called him a show pony and said that George had "excelled" at every level he had played at and had an end product.
I simply compared Diblings numbers to George's and he out performed him on almost every metric.
The lad is 19 and played in one of the worst PL sides in history. He played on the RW, the 10 and as a false 9 which I think goes someway to showing just how short on quality they were.
I drew comparisons to Gordon because he had similar numbers and was playing in an equally poor team. A club identified his talents and were prepared to pay the price. Everyone laughed at Newcastle and implied we had their pants down. That certainly doesn't look to be the case now does it.
It is worth bearing in mind that Dibling is 3 years younger than Gordon was, so has 3 years breathing room to reach the same level.
Other clubs were interested in Dibling but Southamptons initial price of £100m whilst they were still in the Prem put them off.
Most of the big clubs have spent heavily in this window and are buying players that are already at the peak of their powers or performing at a seriously good level e. g. Wirtz, Gyokeres, Ekitike, Mbuemo, Cunha, Pedro.
They are obviously not willing to spend £40m on a young lad with bags of potential when they can go and sign players that can deliver proven goals and assists in the PL for double the price, in some cases treble the price.
That leaves clubs like your Spurs, Newcastle, Villa, Brighton etc that are above us. Spurs already have Kudus, Maddison, Kulu, Johnson, Tel, Oderbert. Newcastle and Villa are walking a fine line with spending. Brighton have Mitoma, Rutter, Minteh etc.
Other clubs are fully aware of what a talent this lad is. It just so happens that this is very good timing. Southampton relegated, dire need for attacking reinforcements, new stadium, Moyes (ish) pull.
Ndiaye is by far and a way our best attacking player. He didn't get one assist last year and scored 3 penalties. That would put him on 6 goals. Do we hammer him for that or do we realise what else he brings to the team in his overall play and ball carrying ability? We also realise he is playing with sub-par attackers in the team. Put him off the left for Chelsea, City, Arsenal or Liverpool and see what happens to his numbers. He is certainly good enough imo to play for any of those teams as LW's are notoriously difficult to come by.
Dibling will offer similar, although a different type of threat on the opposite flank or through the middle, depending where Moyes decides to play him.
Give me Dibling over Lindstrom or Harrison any day of the week.
We would be stupid not to get this lad in if we have the chance.
04 Aug 2025 21:18:26
Fair enough blue nose I hope you are right. It’s a game of opinions and I think you are wrong he is a massive risk at that price. With our FFP position I don’t think you can take that risk gambling he will turn into a £100m player because he won’t. Will happily come on here and give you your kudos if he tears it up. My guess is though you won’t do the same if completely wrong. KDH did it in the prem and tore it up in the championship and is only costing 25 so why on earth does 40 feel like fair value?
05 Aug 2025 02:25:29
We haven't got an FFP position anymore. We have suffered enough and although need to be smart, we can now begin to spend money but spend it wisely. Take the squad age down and get young exciting players in that have the potential to do very well for Everton club on the pitch, where their value simultaneously goes up.
We have bought a 22, 23 and 19 year old. This model clearly has a long term plan which was severely lacking from the last lot.
He is not a risk, his ability is too great. What he offers from his overall presence on the pitch for us will supersede plain numbers. The willingness to work hard, the thirst to track back and help his team. His ball-carrying abilities, getting us all off our seats as he bursts into the final 3rd with Ndiaye and KDH as options.
Go and watch some of the howlers from Armstrong and Archer last year. Pen missed, 1 v 1's.
Whilst you stay obsessed with unreasonably defining a 19 year old signings success by instant elite numbers in goals and assists, I trust that most fans will be of the opinion that even if he got modest numbers, say 5 goals and 5 assists (Ndiaye 9 goals 0 assists) , they would be made up with him and you can be sure that his value increases as a result.
Has he got the ability to reach similar numbers as the top young midfielders in this league, absolutely. But even if he becomes half the player that a Saka or a Palmer are for us, 40m would represent smart business.
That guess would be correct. Whilst I would have no issue with accepting that I called it wrong with Dibling and admitting that very fact to yourself, in person, without flinching, whilst shaking your hand. In no world or lifetime, would that mean I expect you to come on here to say well done to me for calling it right. I couldn't care less of being right, other than the fact of watching Everton FC benefit from it.
It is a pointless statement to make because our interpretation of what constitutes him being determined a successful signing differs too much.
I want a hungry, talented, and exciting right winger that will stay at us for years and play in Europe for us, even if only scoring 8 goals and assists for the year.
I don't get your point about KDH. Him and DIbling are 2 completely different players and have little to no parallels.
I can go into a little bit of why £40 may be fair value.
One of them is 27 a month tomorrow and when he was the others age he was playing Premier League 2. He didn't get his PL debut until 23 and has never got more than 5 goals AND assists in a single season. Dibling actually equalled his best scoring season.
There is no point talking about 12 goals and 15 assists for Leicester in the Championship because it may as well be a different sport to the PL. Cameron Jerome got 16-18 goals in the Championship a few times and other than 2 seasons bagging 7 goals he never managed more than 4 goals a season in about 8 attempts at PL football.
Chelsea are happy to sell him because they are literally stock piling players and they can turn a decent profit on a talented footballer. Southampton don't want to sell their best player, who is 19! Comparing the two transfers is again pointless.
At 19, KDH was promoted from the under-18 squad to the under-23's and 2 years later went on to win the development squad player of the year. Dibling was scoring PL goals, although not many, for one of the worst PL teams in history. He was putting the best defenders in the hardest league in the world to the sword most weeks. Some simply unable to keep up with his pace, power and close ball control. He was winning penalties at OT and against Liverpool.
So, do I think getting a 19 year old burgeoning talent, a clubs biggest asset for around 40m, represents fair value in comparison to getting a 27 year old solid player, out of a talent-ridden European and PL powerhouse by paying (by the time of add-ons) approx.12 million less. Absolutely I do.