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16 Jan 2024 20:54:44
Well no doubt we will receive a second points deduction, and this time it will be a larger one as it's a second offence.

So for the first time in my 67 years Everton will be relegated.


1.) 16 Jan 2024 22:43:24
I think there’s a long way to go with this one, and a few twists and turns. The court of public opinion may have an impact yet. Stay strong, support the lads, all we can do.

2.) 17 Jan 2024 09:14:00
We haven’t resolved the first one yet. Let’s just stay positive and see what happens.

3.) 17 Jan 2024 15:38:32
Coming up to 75 Lhr mate so I certainly know how you feel, but I think as Woburn says above we have to keep positive and continue to back Sean and the Team, there will be many ups and downs in the coming months but hey we are Everton so let’s stay positive we can’t do anything with the FFP, so the old saying comes to mind where there’s life there’s hope buddy.

4.) 17 Jan 2024 16:54:55
You lot are just babies. I was 11 when we were relegate. Very dramatic for a young kid. At 84 I don't want to go through that experience again.

5.) 17 Jan 2024 18:07:16
Some going that over 200 years between the three of us, but it’s worth eh.

6.) 17 Jan 2024 19:47:19
Yes GB a lot of happy memories though and hopefully some in the near future.

7.) 18 Jan 2024 12:24:56
we've had good times though :)

8.) 19 Jan 2024 14:36:48
That was BB which is a long time ago, getting on for 30 years.



08 Aug 2022 15:00:45

Any idea of the details of the Juventus loan to buy deal for Kean. I was under the impression they were to buy him at end of last season, but apparently the loan is still active?


{Ed002's Note - They have an option to buy him now so thehy can sell him on or an obligation to buy him at the end of next season.}

1.) 08 Aug 2022 15:55:33
Thanks Ed02, I was under the impression it was only a one season loan then they had to buy.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

2.) 08 Aug 2022 17:34:31
ED02 do you think they will take the option up this summer or wait.

{Ed002's Note - they are looking for a buyer - if they find one they will buy.}

3.) 08 Aug 2022 19:04:23
Shame he's in trouble for his poor discipline again.

4.) 08 Aug 2022 19:00:42
Cheers ED02 hopefully they find a buyer.



27 Jan 2022 22:04:30
Reports now online that Rooney has refused to be involved in any further interview process. Don't know if it's true, but if it is, it's to his credit if he has. Our club is a complete shambles?.


1.) 27 Jan 2022 23:46:40
Or that he has some integrity and that he’s committed to the fans and his colleagues at Derby.

2.) 28 Jan 2022 05:55:40
Wayne Rooney has zero integrity I think the whole world knows that.

3.) 28 Jan 2022 07:40:27
The same rooney that dropped is boyhood club like a hot potato stays at Derby because its the right thing to do? Yes that must be what happened.

More likely he just doesn't want to swap one mess for another, it just be exhausting to be fair.

4.) 28 Jan 2022 08:53:28
Wayne Rooney has no place at our Club.

5.) 28 Jan 2022 09:16:49
Everyone walks away to Man U whether we like it or not. He could have walked away from Derby at any point, and no one would have blamed him.

6.) 28 Jan 2022 09:52:33
Rooney was sold he didn't walk away he was forced to leave as we needed the money and he was the only realistic player that could provide the money we needed. Has Rooney even been interviewed for the Everton post? Papers say he's being considered but not seen anything saying he actually been interviewed. one of the ed's may be able to confirm if he has or not.

7.) 28 Jan 2022 11:16:36
If Rooney came in he would be pulling what’s left of his hair out
Unfortunately we are not an attractive prospect to any manager as it stands
Rafa should have gone before Digne or Brands in my opinion
But our issues are not from this season alone, it’s been there to see, and we are crippled by FFP now.

8.) 28 Jan 2022 12:27:17
Cannot believe people still whinge about Rooney going to United. One they were probably the best club side on the planet at the time and secondly we desperately needed the money. Grow up.

9.) 28 Jan 2022 12:51:44
Windsor we are Evertonians the most of us old ones are bitter and twisted?.

10.) 28 Jan 2022 12:57:49
Totally agree Windsor, we had little cash and that 30mil gave us stability, plus ghe likes of Cahill, Arteta, Lescott, jags, Yak, Baines Howard, Neville came in on the back of that cash and stability over the next couple seasons.

11.) 28 Jan 2022 14:44:02
He likes his windows. Good choice in this toxic era, probably the best decision he's ever made. Hope he keeps Derby up and progresses as a manager. We will undoubtedly be in this circus of fan power again in 12 months or less. And News now and Twitter will push him into contention once again.

12.) 28 Jan 2022 15:39:50
We approached Rooney and he turned us down, there you go Mr Moshri how embarrassing is that, Rooney . Still giving priority to 'advisors' advice after that snub. When are you going to wake up.



12 Jul 2021 12:08:22
Ed 2 Any truth in that we are looking at Koulibally again. I know he is class, but you put that against his age, price and wages, together with the way Naples seem to conduct their business (stringing you along as long as possible in the hope they get a better offer) . Is it really worth the effort considering we are supposed to be reducing wage bill?


{Ed002's Note - Kalidou Koulibaly (CB) Bayern Munich have put in an offer for KK that is much less (about half) than Napoli's valuation of €50M but financial issues may see Napoli reduce their asking price and to ask for offers from elsewhere which is what Napoli have done with his agent. Everton still have an interest even though CA has noved on but the interest of Real Madrid will likely of shifted as they have other targets. The interest of Liverpool, PSG, Manchester City and Manchester United has likely gone due to his age and whilst there is no doubt about how good he is, but €50M for a 30 year old would not seem like good business. Perhaps at half that price he would be a good solution.}

1.) 12 Jul 2021 12:52:43
Thanks ed.



11 Nov 2019 23:12:19
Looking ahead at the fixture list, after the Norwich game, I can't see us winning a game until after Christmas.

We are not creating enough clear chances.
Statistics said we had 24 chances on Saturday, but I was there and most of them were just half chances at best.
We need to attack down the flanks and move the defenders about with better / quicker movement. I know its easier saying than achieving but we haven't got a 20+ goals a season striker, so the more real chances we can create the more we are likely to put away.


1.) 12 Nov 2019 08:38:08
i think we are creating enough chances, our players just aren't finishing them look back at the brighton and burnley games we had chances to kill it off, same on saturday, against manchester city mina should have had a hattrick and against spurs we should have had penalties its difficult.

2.) 12 Nov 2019 09:07:14
As WBlue is saying capitalising on our 'real' chances is the key plus var decisions going in our favour and we could gain more points than perhaps our current PL place suggests .
However we do have company, as there are others in this predicament .
As I have already said December does look a challenge though LHR.

3.) 12 Nov 2019 09:10:14
I don’t think we are quick enough, we mess about with the ball across the back four then into midfield then back to the back four. We need to be like Leicester more direct.

4.) 12 Nov 2019 11:06:46
oh yeah don't get me wrong dollo, sometimes its the worst attacking side in the world going fullback to fullback side to side.

5.) 12 Nov 2019 11:47:09
I can see 15 points by 1st Jan.

6.) 12 Nov 2019 12:55:16
Thats right Nick 'impossible' 😑 just doesn't exist in 'Toffee Vocabulary' does it mate 😜.

7.) 12 Nov 2019 19:39:53
The impossible we can do Blue. Its the miracles that take a little longer 😑.

8.) 12 Nov 2019 21:32:29
Our form is picking up so let's hope we are peaking at the right time.

9.) 13 Nov 2019 10:44:23
@Nick, Lol love it mate 😀 😉.

10.) 13 Nov 2019 16:28:23
Like I have said many times. people miss the point. whilst we are struggling in front of goal, we seem to have say 65% possession, a few shots on goal and then concede after giving away a stupid free kick or a misplaced pass in defence. Then you can see the confidence just drain away. It is no surprise to me that we have not come from behind under Silva to win a game. We need to be more solid in defence before thinking about scoring more. We concede on average a couple of goals a game. So we already need 2 or 3 goals just to get a draw. never mind a win. We had the same last season but by the end we tightened up. I am not sure why we are so panicky and soft at the back but outfield onwards we look ok.

11.) 13 Nov 2019 16:43:13
I have mentioned ''clean sheets'' or solid defence too Degsy, they are the foundations needed to progress, and both Pep and Jurgen learnt that the PL attacking standards called for good defenders and they ''both'' obeyed this demand .

12.) 13 Nov 2019 20:21:00
We create plenty of chances. If we were even moderately clinical this season, we'd be sitting in 5th with a cushion. The league is bang-average and on our day we can play with anyone. I wouldn't be surprised if we won, lost, or drew any individual match.

13.) 14 Nov 2019 15:51:49
We do make a lot of individual errors, which is difficult to blame silva for. I would also say watching Liverpool and city that as an 11 they seem to work harder than us. I have no stats to back this up but just what it seems to my eye. They consistently press harder, and I don't just mean tactics wise. I mean the players when they press go harder than we do, a lot of ours seem to be going through the motions off the ball.

14.) 14 Nov 2019 16:29:50
I agree with you Toffe Dave they do press harder much harder then we do and they all do it the same way and when they don’t think about it they are in with purpose straight away they are obviously trained to do this because they all do it the same way, I mentioned in an early post that Liverpool press so hard and fast they are sometimes an infringement on the opposing player.

15.) 14 Nov 2019 21:34:32
Sorry coyb79, but not confident about winning any match at the moment because our approach play is so slow, we are not making defences work hard enough/ turning defenders often enough to create REAL chances.

If we had a top class finisher to put away the half chances we are getting it could be a different story.
But its a catch 22 situation no top striker is going to come to us until we start winning and looking like European probables.




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18 Jan 2024 20:13:42
R Astley to Dundee Utd looks like we are Going to Give Him Up.


{Ed025's Note - love it Lhr..

1.) 18 Jan 2024 21:06:07
Brilliant ??.

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3.) 19 Jan 2024 22:00:24



17 Jan 2024 19:58:10
Ed 2 Can you confirm the FFP charges against Man City relate to misdeclarations as opposed to overspending.


{Ed001's Note - I had the full list of charges against Man City pinned to the top of the page on the banter page of the Man City rumours site. You can look for yourself.}

1.) 17 Jan 2024 20:29:30
Why are we concerned about City. How does that help Evertons situation. Our Owner and Board were incompetent add to that Moshri wanting to do a runner so does a deal with the dodgiest. I am sorry to go on I am as frustrated the same as everyone else.



02 Dec 2023 20:56:18
Just watching the Newcastle game, we have a toughie coming up on Thursday!


{Ed025's Note - we have a good few hard games over the next few weeks Lhr, thats why today was a very important result mate, i just hope that when we play the barcodes Myko puts Gordon right in the back of the St end.. :)

1.) 02 Dec 2023 21:14:32
They are all going to be tough mate, I would take a scrappy 1-0 all day long we don’t want to be playing fancy footy climb the table then get posh.

{Ed025's Note - i just hope injuries or suspensions dont hamper us GB, we dont have much in the way of back up mate..

2.) 02 Dec 2023 22:15:47
They'll be thinking the same thing about us. We're no longer a soft touch and if you're going to beat you best be bring your A game!

{Ed025's Note - love it John..

3.) 02 Dec 2023 22:20:51
Every game is hard in PL.
But SD gets that and has installed that into our squad!
Before this season 10 points would’ve been a death penalty but now with SD I think it’s ok. Regardless of a lesser penalty on appeal I honestly believe we have a manager and team to not only keep us in prem this year but improve us year on year!

{Ed025's Note - i think Sean is doing an amazing job PHH..

4.) 02 Dec 2023 22:40:29
Our squad is so thin but BETO was bought to replace DCL when needed and we got another win today

5.) 02 Dec 2023 23:05:07
I have had a few drinks but our away support absolutely amazing well done for every single fan that travelled UTFT.

6.) 02 Dec 2023 23:42:31
Was there and still am ??? think we need maupay back he is underestimated as a forward ???????????only kidding iam well pissed but had a cracking day and night in Nottingham.

7.) 03 Dec 2023 00:22:47
Well done ron mac and listen everyone on here we all have different opinions but we all love are club every opinion an suggestion is each to there own 3 points today well done lads big shout out to. away fans bloody amazing COYB.

8.) 03 Dec 2023 08:33:45
Plenty on here questioning whether SD was the man for the job again last week. We’re not going to win every game, but he does appear to have galvanised the squad, something Lampard couldn’t do.
Newcastle’s bench was paper thin yesterday too, and Pope will be out for a while. Be tough, but not a bad day to play them imo.

9.) 03 Dec 2023 11:36:32
He is doing a good job. My view if not already needs to now work very very closely with Thelwell and coaches to rapidly identify and bring through our youth. Our position is now as such that these lads need blooding. All Managers have their favourites, for me Youngs' experience is useful in the dressing room and/ or on the bench. He was let off yesterday as Cooper couldn't see what most of us could.



12 Nov 2023 00:16:12
Good win today. But are we better away from home as we put them under too much pressure at home?

The Burnley cup game there was no atmosphere until we went two up, are the supporters nerves getting through to the team?

Again against Brighton the poor refereeing and VAR or lack of it put the support on edge.




29 Oct 2023 16:22:31
This is probably going to upset a few people, but kudos to Moshri for attending in honour of Kenwright.


1.) 30 Oct 2023 05:48:01
Can't see how that would upset anyone. It can be argued that BK may have over stayed, but no one can deny what he did for the club in its hour of need. I hope he gets a minutes applause at the next home game. And all the board should be there to show their support.

2.) 30 Oct 2023 08:28:11
I read an article that BK wasnt always in agreement with the chairman and wasnt happy with some of the things our chairman did, especially Benitez being manager, so maybe he's been getting a lot of flack that shouldn't of been thrown at him, saying that nobody will really know who's at fault, all I do know is the west ham game is showing we are improving and even with a points deduction, I think we are still to good to go down, considering the teams below us.

3.) 30 Oct 2023 09:34:42
100% BP- been saying for years it was of if not the best run club until Moshiri took over. He had the ultimate sign off on any decision and others have paid for his ineptitude. But now is a time to set aside the pain and argument and salute as 1 a great evertonian.

4.) 30 Oct 2023 11:47:42
Well said, BP. I think things could be even worse right now if BK had left when FM rocked up.
With little money under BK's reign, we finished in the top 8 something like 12 times in 19 years. The story changed drastically when FM came in throwing his cash around and we look a million miles away from those top 8 finishes. Two things have changed in that time; a new chairman and the board deciding to go with a DoF.
If he was making the major decisions at the club, as FM has tried to allude to a few times, then would Rafa have got through the door? I seriously doubt it is my opinion on the matter.
I think FM has pulled a blinder by getting him to stay on the board and deflect the rubbish show away from himself. RIP Bill.




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21 Jan 2024 20:06:25
I understand the financial sense however we don't look like scoring if he is not playing behind our lone striker.




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04 Jan 2024 12:46:16
Its just "careless whispers" from "bad boys", just "wake me up before they go go"




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26 Dec 2023 21:04:55
Obviously 19th + 20th.




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26 Dec 2023 20:54:11
Ed 2 Yes it maybe a loss of income. But we can only be relegated once every year. Therefore only one club 18th placed (9th and 20th went down on own merit) has any right to possible compensation.




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25 Aug 2023 11:51:20
Reckon we will end up paying part of his £72g a week.





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25 Feb 2024 12:34:49
They think the halfway line is the dead ball line?.




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21 Jan 2024 20:03:42
He is never a lone striker, he has played well in a two, we never gave him that luxury.




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04 Jan 2024 22:35:13
The refs have no balls they accept everything Stockley Park tell them no exceptions.




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01 Jan 2024 12:39:49
Trouble is dentie, Stockley Park don't use GMT, they use MTET (Mean to Everton Time) .




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08 Dec 2023 14:27:35
30 Beto passed into the net?.




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