31 Jan 2026 12:02:03
Moyes never gave youth a chance?
Rooney, Osman, Anichebe, Vaughan, Rodwell, Armstrong.
He bought a young John Stones and put him in the Everton team.
Not saying all the listed players were amazing, but to say Moyes has never given youth a chance is a tad harsh.
31 Jan 2026 12:13:22
Didn't stones make his debut under brown shoes?
31 Jan 2026 12:29:43
Rooney was a generational talent, Osman was around 23/24 before he got any significant game time, and he never actually gave Stones a game - he made his debut in August 2013, 3 months after Moyes left.
Anichebe, Vaughan and Rodwell are fair enough, but even so, we're talking a very small handful across a VERY long period of time.
There's also players like Barkley who he gave very fleeting cameos to, who was clearly quality (at that moment in time) , but he absolutely refused to start - then he immediately became our most important player under Martinez the next season (alongside Stones) .
I think with Moyes, it's similar to Mourinho - you're right that there's examples of where he has given them a chance, but the story is much more about the players he hasn't given a chance to, and when he is refusing to give them a chance in favour of players you KNOW will put in a terrible performance, that's when i start pulling my hair out. If one of the u21's even has both legs and his boots laced properly, the worst he can be is as bad as Beto. Why doesn't he just give them a chance instead of naming a bench full of goalkeepers.