27 Apr 2016 09:53:46
Ed, I know it's highly unlikely but if the players refused to train for martinez or refused to play under him, would the board have to take some action against him? The players don't seem to wanna play for him if we believe what were hearing.
{Ed002's Note - Twitter is this? If the players refuse to train then the board will take action against the players and the reserve or youth players will play for the rest of the season.
I have to say again that a lot of the Everton supporters have little or no grasp on reality.}
27 Apr 2016 09:59:35
No I don't follow twitter,just curiosity that's all.
{Ed002's Note - Clearly if this is what you are "hearing" it is coming from Twitter or some similar social media outlet.}
27 Apr 2016 10:21:14
How about this for logical thinking then. I believe the Club are getting ready to announce that Mr Martinez is staying. My theory is based on the comments from Robles and Unsworth in particular, maybe these are the only two the Club could find to come out in support, I don't know but perhaps.
27 Apr 2016 10:30:35
Ed002 your reply to daneefc was a bit harsh, he just asked a question. Saying that a lot of Everton supporters have little or no grasp on reality is in my opinion wide of the mark.
{Ed002's Note - It was not harsh at all - do you seriously think the players going on strike to force the board to sack the manager is what is going on at the training ground today? But that is what he is "hearing" - and not from Twitter apparently. You should read a lot of the posts of others to decide for yourself about people having a grasp on reality. One simple post on Twitter and suddenly everyone's friends who work for Everton are spreading the word that Martinez left on Saturday night, emptying his desk and taking his stapler with him.}
27 Apr 2016 10:43:17
Ed. it's obvious we don't see eye to eye but everyone is just speculating and even in the days before social media, everyone was still jangling in the pub. All dane did was offer a theoretical point. this is all due to the club neither sacking nor supporting the manager. we have spoken about how you speak to people. Only my opinion but surely just leave it at your explanation of the players being disciplined and youth players playing. No need to insult blue fans. we know you don't like us because you support Chelsea but please be courteous.
{Ed002's Note - Idiotic - I don't dislike you or any other supporters. I would strongly advise you and others who are unable to cope with anything being said in a straightforward manner to simply not read anything I post. Therefore you will be perfectly happy and not needing to write these whining posts.}
27 Apr 2016 10:44:19
Ed002 of course I don't think that the players would even consider not training to try to get rid of the manager.
I just thought the grasp on reality statement was uncalled for, obliviously you don't.
{Ed002's Note - A large number of the fans clearly don't have a grasp on reality - my advice is not to read anything I post.}
27 Apr 2016 10:46:59
There is more to the world than twitter ed. Everton fans are a close knit group so maybe, just maybe I and others hear things off other Everton fans and we go from there. As we're always told this is a rumour site and I was only asking thru curiosity but thanks anyway ed
{Ed002's Note - If this is what the other fans are saying it rather demonstrates my whole point.}
27 Apr 2016 10:59:55
No disrespect ed but I thought the point on this site was rumours and banter, therefore we post rumours and ask questions but u can be rather blunt and harsh and don't have conversation with others. You just say it your way and that's it, maybe that's just your personality though or Chelsea fans in general as u seem to say Everton fans have no grasp on reality, maybe to u Chelsea fans it's your point that matters and no one elses
{Ed002's Note - Firstly, it has nothing to do with Chelsea or "Chelsea fans" - so putting all of that nonsense aside for a moment, I have no problems if you wish to ask me about transfers or how clubs are run and, generally most other things about the game. There will always be a few things I won't answer and I will say so if something arises. As for the "banter", it is very poor on the Everton pages. There is little or no reasonable banter and the pages are generally full of people spewing hate over Mr Kenwright, the manager and many of the players. It is tedious and boring - I get that most people don't want Mr Kenwright at the club, I get that they don't want Mr Martinez at the club and I get that they don't want many of the players at the club. They don't need to say it over and over again, it is tedious and boring - but they do. They are in many cases unable to articulate any meaningful "banter". This is not simply an Everton issue, the Liverpool fans struggle in a similar way, the Chelsea & West Ham pages have little banter and fewer posts, the Manchester United banter degraded in to nonsense in the same way as the Everton banter has. So my advive is when you ask a question, put a little not that you don't want me to answer it and I will find an editor from another page to help you out. Otherwise, when you see "Ed002" written against something, just skip over it.}
27 Apr 2016 11:06:57
Not whining. Just saying you can't tar all Everton fans as losing grip with reality.
We are just speculating. Liverpool did it when Rodgers went, Chelsea after mourhino, etc. because nobody knows what is going on with the club, INCLUDING yourself, we are just guessing.
I don't think anyone has posted that they know 100% what will happen. They are just posting rumours and heresay. This is a rumours site after all.
{Ed002's Note - You are whining and you did not read what I posted. I did not say "all" I said "a lot". Twisting things to suit your own needs is absolutely pitiful and very, very embarrassing. One by one your posts are degrading in to drivel. As I explained, I would strongly advise you to simply not read anything I post.
Your repeated posts about me (particularly the "southern softie" nonsense) are making you look rather stupid.}
27 Apr 2016 11:29:47
I only post about you because the vast majority of people and eds responses on here make it a good read, you just seem to want to show people up, shoot them down and show a complete lack of emotions. in all fairness I can't remember the last time I saw you agree with any post on here.
Football has got where it is because it stirs emotions in us and we display passion and sometimes this does come out in aggressive posts and drivel. But as I have said before all fans of all clubs do this and it is not solely an Everton problem.
{Ed002's Note - The Liverpool supporters suffer exactly the same idiosyncrasy as you - they too have the constant need to deflect and drag other clubs in to everything. You might do best to step back a little and try and understand that the club is not simply about 11 players kicking a ball around on a Saturday afternoon. Their is the academy to consider, the stadium issues, the need to bring in new and fresh sponsorship and a whole bunch of other stuff the Everton fans are simply ignoring. They are screaming for knee-jerk reactions to be as disruptive as they can be. Perhaps it is the "passion" you mention, but simply looking at this one part of the club will all end in tears.}
27 Apr 2016 12:46:44
Although Ed002 and I have had some disagreements, I think his point is spot on.
I have seen very few posts on here that have critised the players for the results and yet there is only so much a manager can get the players to do once they are on the pitch and yet because this is our best squad for 30 years they seem to be exempt from being blamed.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and yet when you hear the same arguements over and over again that have very little substance and are usually hearsay and not based on facts it becomes tedious, so I can understand why he says things the way he does and why he says we should be more realistic.
27 Apr 2016 13:00:35
Si going off on a slight tangent there are a number of posts questioning squad and martinez' methods/ tactics, formations. etc. What we have to remember is that every have played very well sometimes this season and blown games away in final moments, e. g. Norwich, Bournemouth, west ham to name but a few. Yes the players are accountable. they play their part. I think the reason most fans are jaded is because its the same mistakes over and over again. a lot of which is due to formation and tactics. e. g. Putting on john stones at half time when losing 2-0 at home. perfect opportunity to play another striker with rom. etc. If Martinez is our manager ill keep supporting and if he just tries something different ill b delighted. good luck to him. if he pulls a sir Alex brilliant. as a fan u just need to see something. some attempt to changing it. nit the same old thing and the same old excuses. just try somethingronerto. it may pay off.