Everton Rumours

17 Jun 2024 07:49:14
At last it has been revealed we need to raise £25 million by the end of June for FFP, definatenly no need to sell JB then.

17 Jun 2024 08:51:47
Has it GB? Can’t see this anywhere.

17 Jun 2024 09:00:21
It all sounds good, but this is the media and how would they even know, surely a statement on selling players and how much we need to raise would help everyone, also if we only need to raise 25 million do you think this puts us in a stronger position when it comes to selling players on the cheap, I read godfrey could be off so if we could get close to 10 for him then It reducesses it abit more, or are we still in a week position.

17 Jun 2024 09:00:46
If reports you have seen are accurate GB, did we not raise £20m last week with the new Castor deal? Is this included in the reported shortfall?

17 Jun 2024 09:12:11
It's in Daily Express/ Daily mirror and also on news now.

This nonsense Ed002? As try not believe the media and their guesswork nowadays.

16 Jun 2024 20:02:40
Onana to Villa we keep JB like it.

16 Jun 2024 22:45:29
Thought Villa needed to sell players to prevent falling foul of PSR. Not sure this will happen GB.

17 Jun 2024 11:30:04
Probably based on the Douglas Luiz exit but I read they needed to sell so not sure how this benefits 🤷🏻‍♂️.

16 Jun 2024 17:01:52
Everton lining up Jacob Greaves If United meet their valuation. Seen a bit of him and very good player.

16 Jun 2024 21:30:09
There's gems in the championship. Jude Bellingham was Birmingham and look at him now. The desire to succeed usually beats skill and flair.

16 Jun 2024 22:01:33
His brother Jobe decent aswell think palace looking at him.

17 Jun 2024 08:52:29
Should be looking at young talent that aren’t already in high wages.

17 Jun 2024 14:17:46
Prefer Greaves as the Godfrey replacement if he’s not signing a new contract
And he can offer cover for Mykolenko as well.

16 Jun 2024 16:02:20
New owner Dan Freidkin signed and sealed.

{Ed025's Note - but not yet delivered GB, has to pass the right and proper owners test yet mate which hopefully he will, but it could take a while..

16 Jun 2024 19:33:16
Saying 4-6 weeks Ed as no, problems like 777.

{Ed025's Note - that would be fine GB. But reports are saying it could be up to 3 months mate. I suppose we will have to see..

16 Jun 2024 22:25:00
Nothing goes smooth for us does it ed.

{Ed025's Note - i does seem that way nick, im hoping it all turns out in our favour mate because lets be honest...we deserve a bit of good fortune..

17 Jun 2024 14:21:02
Still not convinced this is the best move for the club although looks better than 777
Is there now exclusivity for Friendkin Ed?

{Ed025's Note - i read that it was being discussed over the weekend ST..

16 Jun 2024 13:42:53
Player plus cash deals rarely happen but I would be testing the waters with Arsenal if their interest in Onana is legitimate.

Nketiah, Zinchenko, Nelson could all be deemed surplus to requirements and would all represent improvements on our squad.

16 Jun 2024 14:35:52
And how do you propose we pay their 100k plus wages?

16 Jun 2024 23:20:25
Yeah agree with OD, wages would be a problem but I'd expect them to pursue European football rather than join a club in a bit of turmoil and that has been fighting relegation for the last few seasons.

16 Jun 2024 23:36:10
Gomes, Dele, Onana were/ are all on 100k plus a week.

2 are gone and if the above scenario played out, 3 would be. that's how I propose we would pay the wages :)

17 Jun 2024 14:59:47
All well and good, BN, but they have to be prepared to take well less than those you mentioned that have left. Can't see Zinchencho accepting anything less than 100k, he's reported to be on about 120k.
Nketiah is on around 77k, Nelson 88k. Can we afford, or should we be committing to, such high wages?
What do we all think is a decent wage for playing for us? Obviously, there are numerous factors that come into it but, considering how much we have wasted on player wages in recent times, what should we be paying without causing us more grief financially?

{Ed002's Note - Everton has no interest in these players.}

15 Jun 2024 16:49:45
We get Freidkin as our new owner, can we loan players between Roma and ourselves.

{Ed002's Note - To some extent yes.}

16 Jun 2024 11:30:11
Well we can give them Maupay, Keane and Holgate for a start.

{Ed002's Note - Obviously that is not possible.}

16 Jun 2024 11:44:52
I was joking ED. How about swapping managers instead?

15 Jun 2024 14:05:28
There is no way this new owner will let Everton go into administration.

I highly suspect he will be buying the shares for around £400m then settle map debt.

He will restructure the other debt and I guarantee we get a few players in.

This guy has got Roma doing well more than we could ever dream for. he's decisive and not scared.

I think this is good shout all round.

{Ed002's Note - All that he has committed to is giving Moshiri the money to buy his shares at the current price and guaranteeing to pay off the overdue MSP debt and provide funds to keep the club afloat for a month or two. For that he gets nearly all of the club (94%).}

15 Jun 2024 14:37:59
I think that's called buying the club Ed.

{Ed002's Note - Others see this money as going to the club to spend on players I am afraid. The club will still have more than £1B in debt.}

15 Jun 2024 15:12:44
Like a few other premier league clubs Ed, but hopefully someone that can guide our club a lot better than recent times. Appears to be a lot of positivity amongst others and media for him.

{Ed002's Note - Sure but there were better options.}

15 Jun 2024 15:45:59
The only thing we should be concerned with is whether or not this owner is better than Moshiri and whether we are in a healthier and more secure position than we were beforehand.

If the answer is yes, that is all that matters to me.

If we manage to at least tidy things up off the pitch and stay in the league, perhaps with a healthier finishing position. We will become a much more attractive proposition in the future, especially with the stadium.

15 Jun 2024 16:09:03
Bang on BlueNose.

15 Jun 2024 16:09:50
I think most of us will be happy with a drama free season. A few decent additions wouldn't go a miss. It's going to take a while to clear the mess up.

15 Jun 2024 16:20:14
Better options for Moshiri?

15 Jun 2024 17:04:30
Not really sure why other bids were potentially better options? The new stadium is the game changer, why are some people obsessed with debt?

15 Jun 2024 17:43:52
It's hard not to be obsessed with debt when that debt is over 1 billion pounds and the club is loss making.

Even if we were the most profitable premier league club in existence it would take us about 7 years to get that down to a manageable level and that would require us to also be successful on the pitch.

Also the big issue is not the debt, but the interest on the debt - most of that £1b has been loaned at very unfavourable terms I would expect and the interest is simply huge, and I doubt we could ever turn a profit while still paying that interest, so getting an owner that would reduce that debt was critical.

15 Jun 2024 18:07:37
Something to moan about ToffeeRealist mate.

15 Jun 2024 16:10:11
Ed, Would Bell and Downing have been that much better? We still would be a billion in debt whoever took over. All B&D would have done is refinance the debt and surely Friedkin will do the same?

{Ed002's Note - With MSP, yes.}

15 Jun 2024 16:17:36
I respect your knowledge and judgement Ed002 so value your view more than the mainstream media circus. Would have liked seen bell and downing myself purely as Evertonians.

We need some good news as a club so hopefully despite yours and others concern the guy may actually prove people wrong, we got to have some hope and change of luck Ed.

{Ed002's Note - Improving but would be neat to see them.}

17 Jun 2024 04:00:39
I definitely would have preferred Bell and Downing with Dell in the background.
Obviously they are two very successful Evertonians and while football is now a business, it helps if the owners have the club in their dna.
We shall see what the new owner says when/ if it is confirmed. All we want atm is stability and a path towards self sustainability.

UTFT NSNO.

15 Jun 2024 12:58:04
Freidkin to invest £548 million into Everton, that's some commitment.

15 Jun 2024 13:17:38
He could of rounded it up to £550 million GB. Tight sod! 😂.

15 Jun 2024 13:45:35
Looks like he is going for the complete takeover of the 94.1 % of Moshiri shares and being said it should take around a month to compete the takeover with no problems with the Premier League.

15 Jun 2024 13:59:39
Am sitting back GB and seeing how it plays out. Don't know anything of him, just the negativity by Jose towards him and Ed002 warning which given his track record on 777 warning months before hand worries me. Time will tell mate. Rather Bell and Downing.

15 Jun 2024 14:42:22
Sky, BBCand ITV all saying Freidkin was the best of the pack that were after us, he’s done well with Roma and says he’s looking forward to making Everton Great again, looks like the deal will go through this weekend, anything has to be better than where we have been recently.

15 Jun 2024 15:08:45
And Sky, BBC and ITV are always right are they. Its going to be slightly better than having 777 in charge. Ed02 has a better track record with us than any media outlet or any other "in the know" person. So I'm going to go with his view as opposed to a media outlet that really don't care what happens to us as long as they can sell a story and make some money.

{Ed002's Note - Post of the day.}

15 Jun 2024 15:09:39
Let's hope so mate.

15 Jun 2024 15:45:44
All about opinions Dan mate.

15 Jun 2024 16:08:36
It is all opinions GB. Is he going to help us short term? Yes. Is he going to improve us long term? Time will tell. Was there better options? Yes. The media tell us what we want to hear, they know we are desperate for this to be sorted out. Is this fella telling the media what he is going to do and how he is going to improve us?

Of course he isn't, so what they are feeding us is guess work. We have someone on here that has a good track record with us, and we have the media that couldn't give two hoots about us.

I hope I'm wrong, but in a few years when we don't own our stadium and we are renting it, and we are still in debt as paying back £1bn isn't going to happen anytime soon, I imagine we will be going through all this again. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't see this as a long term solution.

15 Jun 2024 22:45:24
Until it's done it really isn't worth getting shirty and worked up about. If Mosh is happy then that person or group will be given the green light. Perhaps all this will do is make any other bidders up their bids. And if this guy does get it, well he clearly got it because he wanted it more. Once the dust settles it'll be interesting to know the financials on it. Did Mosh lose a ton of money or did he walk away with a payday. Do we still own the stadium do we still own the training facilities. If in a few years he stabilised us and we ended up in a European cup with Roma, will he flog off the Italian club and push the premier league golden goose? Or is he here to sort us out and in 3-5 years flip us for a profit? Too many variables that even GBs all seeing eye can't get into focus.

16 Jun 2024 11:33:09
Look you have all been asking for a new owner, so if it's this guy then let's not start slaughtering him before he even gets his foot in the door eh.

14 Jun 2024 18:14:30
Hi Ed 02. Am I right in thinking this Dan Friedkin isn't going to be the right owner for us. It seems to me like we're out of the frying pan and into the fire after the 777 debacle.

{Ed002's Note - Friedkin wants to build a multi-club group like a number of others, but having both Roma and Everton would be difficult if both qualified for the same European competition. It would also cut out Bell and Downing and the club would still have to deal with the £1.2B in debt - I would discount or at least steer clear of him.}

15 Jun 2024 09:22:51
Thanks Ed. Its a shame that after the mess with 777, we still can't get this right and we are leaning towards the wrong option again. When will we ever learn.

15 Jun 2024 08:47:34
Blimey that's worrying ed 002 great insight knowledge as always whys moshiri dancing with the devil first 777 when we knew and ed pointed out there corrupt and know this person just doesn't add up makes no sence.

{Ed002's Note - I suspect he offers the best cash offer.}

15 Jun 2024 10:01:26
So basically he's not assed about the club he's more interested in his pocket even though it was him that put Everton into this mess to begin with 😂😂.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is really not like that.}

15 Jun 2024 10:23:46
Why would you steer clear of him Ed? Is it just because he Owens another club or is it something else?

{Ed002's Note - Having both Roma and Everton would be difficult if both qualified for the same European competition. It would also cut out Bell and Downing and the club would still have to deal with the £1.2B in debt less the £200M he would need to guarantee paying immediately to address the £159 million – due to MSP Sports Capital two months ago and to cover the running costs for a month. Right now Moshiri should be talking with MSP, Bell and Dowling about a solution.

Months of work trying to get Friedkin in place could lead to the creditors pushing the club in to Administration of claiming the club assests (such as Goodison and Bramley Moore Dock).}

15 Jun 2024 11:38:28
I read an article recent which suggested that as there are so many teams in multi club models now, that they were relaxing the rules and several that have applied recently have been allowed to enter competitions. Moving with the times I suppose.

15 Jun 2024 16:19:31
I’m just hoping we can avoid administration as we will probably be handed another points deduction next year and we won’t survive them.

We could do with Others being hit hard by PSR also if it happens again. Hopefully MSP will not push us into admin and give us more time.

14 Jun 2024 19:04:36
Hey Ed 025 you happy with this news on the takeover mate, is this the right guy for us you reckon.

{Ed025's Note - its hard to say really GB as i dont know enough about him mate, he seems to fit better than 777 though so im glad about that mate, im not sure its time to celebrate just yet though as we need all the I,s dotted and the T,s crossed before we crack out the champagne..

14 Jun 2024 20:12:03
Mourinho wasn't very pleased about him, apparently not a football guy at all. Sour grapes perhaps.

14 Jun 2024 20:17:50
Will it help with us not needing to sell lots of players or getting a points deduction?

Feels like this might be a case of closing the barn doors after the horse has bolted…

Please prove me wrong Everton! Please!

14 Jun 2024 21:14:30
Mourinho slags most clubs after he’s sacked, I wouldn’t worry too much about his opinion.

14 Jun 2024 19:56:40
Does any of this re the Roma guy taking us over have any bearing on having to sell players or buying players do you know mate.

{Ed025's Note - im not sure how it works to be honest GB, i dont think its as easy as paying the money and the slate is wiped clean though mate, i must admit though i feel more optimistic than i did this time last week...but lets see..

14 Jun 2024 22:10:47
Good thing is we wouldn't be getting Jose in as our new manager.

{Ed025's Note - thank the lord for that Mocker mate..

14 Jun 2024 22:57:18
Not Jose, but a change in owner could realistically see a change in manager.

14 Jun 2024 23:05:16
Agree Mocker! Cannot stand the special one!

15 Jun 2024 08:22:33
I’m not sure this will save us from having to sell before the end of June but hopefully that will be Onana for £50m giving us £20m in the pot.
No one seems to know what our shortfall is for PSR so we’re all just guessing.
I’m hoping that given this will be a full equity deal meaning they don’t need to borrow money, they have confidence that they can fully manage the situation.
We owe a staggering amount, however these loans can be restructured to allow manageable interest payments going forward.
A stadium deal must be on the cards that can also top up the funds, although not significantly.
Fingers crossed guys.

14 Jun 2024 17:51:40
Telegraph saying the Roma owner to be Moshiri next bidder of exclusivity.

14 Jun 2024 18:06:32
I suppose at least it is someone with experience of owning a football team. Let's hope he is good for us and we can move forward.

14 Jun 2024 18:57:41
It’s now saying they will be taking us over.

14 Jun 2024 19:18:28
Not preferred choice but what do we know. If the choice is made get it done ASAP. Wonder how it resolves the debt issue.

14 Jun 2024 18:52:18
Excuse me if this has been answered before but does he have to do the fit and proper person thing or can he just instantly take over the club or how long will it all take?

{Ed002's Note - Any takeover remains subject to approval from the Premier League, FA and the Financial Conduct Authority. All of the new proposed directors have to pass the Fit and Proposer Persons test.}