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22 May 2024 03:13:11
Anyone fancy Mauricio Pochettino as manager? I would. What he could set up for us long term would turn this club around.

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22 May 2024 07:06:20
Apart from the fact it doesn't look like SD is going anywhere, what is the fascination with MP? Did well at Southampton but has flattered to deceive at other clubs, despite the wealth of talent at his disposal. Bit overrated for me. Doubt he would come to us anyway, I reckon he will be expecting a call from Utd rather than slumming it with us.

22 May 2024 07:17:27
I'd prefer Pep, Enrique or Ancelotte back. However, none of them would go anywhere near us and we can't afford any of them.

In Dyche we trust.

22 May 2024 07:31:17
There is as much a chance of that as there is of you saying something positive about Dyche.

22 May 2024 09:08:18
I think your forgetting the difference in teams, billion team and a team made up of not so great players with a couple exceptions, he wouldn't be the man for the job, why would he be, has he ever been in a dog fight, I doubt it, has he ever had to work with constraints, I doubt it, he's had a wealth of top players to work with, even at Southampton they had some very good players, dyche for me is the only person who can keep this team in the prem until we have new owners and maybe abit of cash to splash on decent players, till then be thankful we have what we have or we would be in the championship by now, we do not need a new manager, this is why we are in this position, don't you lot get it.

22 May 2024 09:21:10
Love it Reg, daftest thing he’s said yet mate ??.

22 May 2024 09:22:03
Is this the manager that has been sacked at the last three clubs he has been at, despite having good squads and plenty of cash? What makes you think he would be able to do a better job at EFC than SD especially in our current situation?

22 May 2024 09:28:20
Definitely turned that Chelsea disaster around but amazingly never got any credit for the form they had since Xmas. His last interview did for him and I like that he didn't hold back and wasn't brown nosing to keep his job. He ain't coming here because he's on big big money but he'd definitely get us up the table and his contacts would be unbelievable for our summer business. And he ain't coming here because he will walk into a far bigger job. Chelsea have been very silly.

22 May 2024 13:11:46
FBS is spot on.

Just because you get sacked, doesn't mean you did a bad job. Gary O'Neil, Moyes are just a couple that spring to mind in recent years.

Finishing 5 points off the Champions league with everything going on at that club is an achievement for me. They may have splashed millions on players but apart from Palmer, Gallagher, Caicedo, I wouldn't want many of their players. Poch came in for them and had to take over a bunch of individuals, far from a cohesive unit.

I also think he did good jobs at Southampton and Spurs. Spurs finished 2nd at one point, if I'm not mistaken. He was then never backed in the market by Levy to close that gap.

All that being said, I don't want Poch at us as we are a special case. Dyche seems a good fit to get us through this mess. The football may not be pretty but he has experience in all the right areas.

22 May 2024 13:37:57
There is absolutely nothing to suggest that he would 'definitely' get us up the table from looking at his previous jobs, absolutely nothing at all. Bar Southampton, his jobs have had squads littered with elite players yet he has struggled considerably with bringing success to them teams. Even the Saints had a few top notch players that moved on for big fees.
If you're going to credit him with turning Chelsea around then you have to admit that he took almost until Christmas to get them playing. He wouldn't get that time with us! When you say he would take us higher than SD, are you taking into account the points deduction or do you mean higher than what we would have finished if they had given is back the points? I'm not so sure on either to be honest. Most overrated manager in the Premier league since Graham Potter in my opinion.

22 May 2024 13:56:59
We need stability
Changing managers will not give stability
Stick with Dyche for at least another season he's deserved that after what he's had to deal with since he's joined our club.

22 May 2024 14:12:54
He didn't get sacked. Mutual agreement means he wasn't going to play their game and promise not to continue to distance himself from the farce. He doesn't need them and that's why he left. So Spurs? At the time they were on a par with us though always edged the best of the rest and he then moved em up to be one of the top 4 and a CL final. Pretty silly to suggest that wasn't an improvement. PSG are same as Chelsea. 1st season wasn't great but won all they could after that. They certainly haven't improved since just maintaining the status quo. So what are you on about? PSGs problem will always be the French league and that it isn't good enough to attract the best players. They'll never win the CL because of that. Crazy to suggest he didn't start to get a tune out of a crazy Chelsea squad and crazy to think the upturn wouldn't have continued next season. Whatever suits your Everton world view I guess. Guess you're one of the loons that dislikes Carlo too. Nuff said.

22 May 2024 15:22:35
His wages on their own would put us in trouble again with FFP ??? SD is staying end of story. but I do think Chelsea have dropped a bollock agreeing to let him go. De zeerbie or the Ipswich lad are favourites i think.

22 May 2024 15:26:11
Well I stirred up a hornets nest there lol. Good to see some have sense and can see beyond GBs best mate. ???.

22 May 2024 15:27:04
Weren't Saints near bottom when he arrived? Got em out playing football? Espanol had em beating Barcelona and punched above weight regularly too eh? Interesting hmmm.

22 May 2024 16:01:36
Dyche would win everything in France with the team Poch had at his disposal! But to say the French league isn't good enough to attract the best players? Are you kidding? Go and look at the players they have signed in the last decade and get back to is. Messi, Neymar, Mbappe etc etc.
Not entirely sure who you're directing your reply to as it refers to a few of the above posts. But is there really any need for the jibe at the end? Opinions, pal, we all have them and they don't have to be the same as your own. Mad one that, eh?

22 May 2024 17:34:03
You rate Naymar? Messi was how old? Mbappe is French and was playing for his home club. Otherwise it's not quite top tier players who want a payday. Pal.

22 May 2024 17:38:45
I could win the league in France. messi neymar ect were attracted by the million pound contracts. but I do rate poch think he was available at the time and they paid him stupid money. I don't rate tuchel but loads think he is brilliant. its everyone's own opinion and that's why i love reading what all your opinions are on stuff. keep the banter going lads. Love it.

22 May 2024 17:49:35
Wrong again Nick as usual not best mate but best manager for the job, he proved he kept us up mate.

22 May 2024 18:22:18
I think you may have answered your own question there by listing 3 players that all signed for the same club and what could be considered nowadays, the only club in France.

What players PSG sign, does not improve the overall landscape of the French league. Just like Bayern Munich in Germany. Even then, there are the seasons where some of the lesser-dominate sides make a run at the title, like Leverkusen this year.

Poch took Espanyol from relegation to mid-table in his first season and notably got them their first win at the Nou Camp in 27 years.

He then took over at Saints and got them an 8th place finish and their highest points tally in PL history.

He then took over at Spurs, becoming their 10th manager in 12 seasons. He got them a 5th place finish and a cup final appearance, whilst having promoted many young academy players into the 1st team. Then came a season where he got them a 2nd place finish in the league. A champions league runner up. He was the 3rd fastest manager to reach 100 PL wins.

He won a cup with PSG and runner up in first season and then won the league the following year.

Which takes us to present day where he has just been sacked for getting a 6th place finish, 5 pts off champions league with a squad that has been assembled by anyone but him.

Games managed 649
Games won 316
Games drawn 144
Games lost 189

When you factor in a lot of those games were with Espanyol, Southampton, an approx win percentage of 50 % seems pretty decent to me.

That being said and I reiterate, I don't think he would be a good fit to manage us.

22 May 2024 19:02:15
Well he isn't coming so let's not worry about it lol ??????.

22 May 2024 19:27:52
It’s as stupid as the question mate, at least we all had a laugh.

22 May 2024 19:29:10
FBS, you make me laugh with how defensive you get when we don't agree with your views. Pal is another word for mate, I use them both at times, weird how you want to use that in a condescending manner but each to their own. Pal ?
You said none of the best players would go to France, you never mentioned anything else. Whether they are there for the cash or at the end of their careers, they were all star names.
BN, his stint at Espanyol started well but that's not how it ended. By the time he left they were back at the bottom of the league. As you would expect, his lowest win ratio was with them at 32.92% and his highest with PSG at 65.48%. Breaking them all down further for clarity, at Spurs it was 54.27% and Chelsea 50.98%. At Southampton he hit 38.33%
For me, that shows that he was better with the bigger clubs. Obviously, the stats aren't really a comparison as they are affected by the amount of time at the club and the amount of games played.
Espanyol 161 games
Southampton 60 games
Spurs 292 games
PSG 84 games
Chelsea 51 games.

I don't know mate, I just feel he is overrated. He did well with teams that had better players, I've always thought anyway. In all honesty, I'm not entirely sure of the players he had at Southampton. In my head he had the likes of VVD and Mane in his team but that could be wrong.





 

 

 
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