30 Sep 2016 23:47:00
1. strange team selection, 2.late substitutions, too late to effect the result, 3. trying to tell us we played well, when, at least in the second half, we where dire, anyone find this just a bit to familiar.
I have admired Koeman for his candour and his willingness to change things when they are not working, tonight had an unfortunate tinge of martinez about it.
{Ed025's Note - bit harsh that JCW, its 7 games in ffs and he is still getting to know the players and implement a system, rome was not built in a day but i imagine if you and a few others were on the job it might have been mate.. :)
01 Oct 2016 01:17:13
Yes, but when they were promised the colosseum, they got the colosseum, inc lions, and gladiators, and chariots, we get cleverly.
01 Oct 2016 07:35:28
''tonight had an unfortunate tinge of martinez about it''
Jcw. . If you think RK has a magic wand and can make the legacy of the Martinez shambles go away in an instant, then mate you have greater expectations of him than I do!
Ronald Koeman is just a man, a man with the task of cleansing this team of the decay that 3 years of 'non management' has brought about.
Nope don't think wand think mop and bucket!
{Ed025's Note - i cant get my head around people thinking we would be instantly transformed into a european super power 247, it must be like spud said "microwave supporters" who cant see that this is a 2-3 year project, even if we throw money at it it will still take time as its about changing the system and mentality of everyone at the club and even supporters, of course its nice to win and to watch great football every week but lets be realistic thats all im asking mate..
01 Oct 2016 07:53:37
Ditto Ed!
01 Oct 2016 08:29:31
It's not koemans team yet. think there will be in comings in Jan an next summer and I'll judge at the start of next season.
Were 3rd won 4, drawn 2 and lost 1. It a good startime and we can only get better.
That said we need to be blob on against citeh next week to get anything, but unlike being under martinez, a win is not out of the question COYB.
01 Oct 2016 08:49:33
Fanatic. . I go along with all that and think the real 'watershed' imo will be the next summers new additions, I'm not sure RK will have the choices available in Jan. to make a massive improvement etc. still looking forward to it though.
Oh and '' a win is not out of the question COYB'' you better believe it mate 😉.
01 Oct 2016 12:52:41
I am a wee bit disgruntled. Firstly, last three performances, not even taking results into consideration, performances only.
Goalkeeper, unfortunately, looking like what he is. Out of his depth.
How many in the ground would have known who he was if he was sitting next to them this time last season. Sorry but starting a re building job from the back does not start there. Williams positional play not too hot.
All bluster no substance. Must improve. The demise of Barkley quite remarkable and sad. No idea what the answere is there. Drop him will be the call~ RK seems to keen on defensive midfielders n would most prob put another in there somehow.
Too many players, unbelievably, already look dis interested. We know who they are ( Kev (again) Ged (looks scared) Baines looking his age)
Is Koeman a busted flush by end of October? Making a few early subs in early games, a decent manager it does not make. My confidence, like the teams, is on the wane.
Whats happening across the park ain't helping me sleep either!
01 Oct 2016 14:38:40
I can definitely see a striker as a priority 247 because if lukaku gets hurt then we will be up the creek.
I'm think, striker, creative mid and centre mid in Jan. the defence isn't going to bad we just need to sort the attack now.
I'm also thinking that Walsh and Co have been busy with transfer targets and getting there act together for the window busines to be done early this time.
01 Oct 2016 14:52:51
What were the expectations of some fans once we had secured RK? If you really believed that we would transform into world beaters then you need to look at yourselves and not blame the team/ club/ board/ manager/ Ross. This team is a work in progress, RK has had 7 games in charge yet people are questioning him? The man himself has said it will take a couple of windows to get the team he wants so put some trust and faith in his judgement. The last 3 performances haven't been great, we can all see that, but do any of you who are having a go really believe we are going to plummet down the league to the depths of the relegation places? We have lost one league game and sit in the top half of the table, we have a manager big on discipline who will be on at the players for letting their levels drop. It will take time, as well as more dropped points, before we get to where RK wants us to be. Ridiculous to think otherwise.
On the subject of Ross, do some fans not realise that they are partly to blame for his performances at home? For the record, he didn't play too badly last night. His passing percentage rate is higher away from home and that's no coincidence imo. His first misplaced pass at Goodison and a large section get on his back for the entire game, that has to play on his mind. I mentioned, in another post recently, the video from Wembley and Jags having to tell him the fans weren't booing just him, does that not tell you how these idiots affect him? He's 22 years of age, we can't expect him to carry an entire team just because he's a local lad. Still, at least these so called supporters now have a target to vent against now that Osman has left the club. What these 'fans' need to realise is that they are running a talented lad out of the club with their constant sniping. Get behind him, get behind the team. We are 'supporters' let's all act like adults and do just that.
01 Oct 2016 23:05:03
Ed025 your posts in this threat probably made me smile more than ever. Good reply's. It was me recently that brought up the 'microwaves generation'. Even though it wasn't me who came up with it originally. I asked for whoever it was to make themselves known. You say above it was spud. Was it him? Just interested.
Anyway, patience is very much needed as pointed out above. Again good post spudv. Good points made and as always makes a lot of sense.
{Ed025's Note - i believe it was spud mate..
03 Oct 2016 07:16:30
Cheers NB, I think people should sit back and look at the bigger picture and then there would be less histrionics on this and other sites! It was me who said that in a convo both me and you had on here a good while ago mate.