Everton Banter Archive July 02 2012

02 Jul 2012 22:09:06
Steven Naismith is expected to join the exodus from Rangers this week and complete a free transfer to Everton.
The Scotland international was one of the first Rangers players to object to their contracts being transferred to Green's company and Goodison Park is his preferred destination as a free agent.
Everton have denied reports that the 25-year-old passed a medical on Merseyside at the weekend – the forward suffered a second cruciate ligament injury in November – but talks have progressed and the manager David Moyes hopes to add Naismith to his squad before pre-season training commences on Thursday.
Green, the Rangers chief executive, has threatened to sue players who leave Ibrox on free transfers and seek damages from the clubs who sign them. But that has not deterred Steven Whittaker from joining Norwich City or Kyle Lafferty from signing for the Swiss club Sion, and Naismith is likely to be the next departure.
Moyes was interested in Naismith before signing his former Rangers strike partner Nikica Jelavic in January and the Croatian has given the Scot a glowing reference. Several Premier League clubs are keen on the former Kilmarnock striker but the chance of a reunion with Jelavic, and the former Rangers captain David Weir, now a coach at Everton, is swaying Naismith towards Goodison.
The Croatia international Danijel Pranjic has also been linked with a free transfer to Everton following his release by Bayern Munich. The 31-year-old claims a deal could be done this week although Moyes' priority is to strengthen his midfield with the permanent signing of Steven Pienaar, who shone on loan from Tottenham Hotspur last season but may be priced beyond Everton's reach.
Pranjic told the Croatian newspaper Sportske Novosti: "I am honoured that such a successful coach wants to sign me, and would be honoured to play for a club like Everton with such a rich history. We were very close to completing a deal in January, but then Bayern prevented it going through. I can't say that everything is finished, but next week I'm expecting some concrete developments."
Moyes has to sell before he can buy players in the Pienaar price-bracket this summer but Leighton Baines, a potential revenue source wanted by Manchester United, has not been subject of an official approach from Old Trafford so far.
Baines confirmed: "I've got three years still to go on my contract. I don't think it does anyone any harm to be linked with a club like Manchester United. But it doesn't do any good either.
"It is just one of those things. It tends to swing around at this time of the year. People put two and two together sometimes they get four and sometimes they get three or five. It gets other people more excited than those involved."

Blue D

Your going to upset everyone on here with a copy & paste article from The Sun

It's from the guardian
Blue D

Read that in the Guardian too

Toffee ace

02 Jul 2012 21:29:34
Moyse in May said he would be getting his transfer targets in early before pre season. Well pre season starts on Thursday and still no one in. Why don't the club tell the truth to the fans. Stinks of another season of gloom till Christmas. {Ed025's Note - come on mate!!...for christs sake, have a bit of patience!..

Doom and gloom. Why can't we all have a bit of patience for a change and give Moyes the benefit of the doubt. I'm quite happy with the rumours of behind the scenes activity, especially since we are only 48 hours into the window.

Popeye {Ed025's Note - at last...someone with a bit of sense!...well done popeye..

Yeah, it's Wednesday, he could get Naismith and Pranjic today it's not illegal is it

It's Tuesday mate and when you wrote that it was Monday :/

02 Jul 2012 20:51:04
I think moyes has told bill he needs players in before the season is underway.we have already released a few players so the squad is thin on the ground. Two signings this week will be a good start.

02 Jul 2012 20:41:26
United were trying to lower the asking price by loaning us Fabio? On the day they have ment to lost interest because of the asking price, He has gone to QPR.... Hmmm? Lets just hope

02 Jul 2012 20:28:43
what do u think if this idea, since baines gets so many assists and has a wicked cross, why not move him up to left mid and buy a left back like ward (wolves)? will save us money on buying a left mid as ward wont nearly be as expensive as a left mid {Ed025's Note - or just get pranjic...then they can interchange,, depending on the opposition..

Interesting idea ed, but what about playing distin johnny and jags across the back and using baines and cole man as wing backs with three in the middle felli gibson and hopefully peinaar and jelavic and possibly naismith upfront, might prove interesting.....grbefc {Ed025's Note - not bad grb..

It's been tried before that a few years ago and it didn't work. Mike

02 Jul 2012 20:21:19
Simon Jones who does The Insider on the Daily Fail must be deluded...he put the likelyness of Pranjic to Everton as 1/5 and Fellaini to Chewsi as 3/5. Come on son its more like Pranjic 4/5 and Fellaini 0 or 1/5

02 Jul 2012 18:27:48
Naismith hasn't a medical yet. So what's with the he failed it on the weekend!? he's only got back in the country today!!

Seems not according to todays papers

02 Jul 2012 17:11:46
is it me or are we being linked to a lot of free players but dnt seem to have signed anyone yet while other clubs just get it done just a another poor showing from bill no 1 in and 1 out to keep the fat cats happy even teams from the 2nd and 1st have more to spend than us {Ed025's Note - give your head a wobble mate....im sure bill has a lot on his plate at the moment, so if nothing happens by august 1st...call back..

Agreed ED
Cornol Sanders

Im with u Ed,how many clubs in Prem have bought anybody so far? 2 or 3 {Ed025's Note - not very many mate...the window has only just opened..

Steady on market only started July 1st it's now the 2nd so give them chance

United (Kagawa, Powell), Arsenal (Giroud, Podolski), Chewsi (Hazard, Marin), Villa (El Ahmadi), Norwich (Whittaker), Newcastle (Amalfitano), Fulham (Petric, George Williams), QPR (Fabio, Green, Nelsen, Andy Johnson, Diakite), Reading (Gareth McCleary), Saints (Jay Rod), Sunderland (Cuellar), WBA (Foster), WHU (Jaaskelainan, Stephen Henderson, Diame, McCartney).

They are all the transfers in PL that I know of so far. That's 13 or 14 teams I think that have made a signing.

Gary

02 Jul 2012 15:59:08
how much did we sell Pienarr for?? {Ed025's Note - £3million..

02 Jul 2012 15:53:05
Can anyone give me a report or anything they have heard about the boy George green as interested to see how he is developing

Good player but is still 16 i think and isn't playing for reserves yet so people who are saying he will be in first team next year are talking rubbish
Blue D

Didnt Rooney score against Arsenal at 16?
ToffeeAL

Have a look at his back-healed volly sort of goal on you tube! unbelieveable!..

I have fantastic I was gob smacked can't seem to find the goal he scored for England u16 against spain

Not alot of show on him last season as he was still a school boy doing exams, everton seem to encourage education so if he wants to carry on studying then he'll probily play for one of the younger sides, if he's done with school I expect reserves by mid season, he told me on twitter when I asked what his expectations are next season, he answered, if I work hard, who knows"

J0hn80y

02 Jul 2012 11:34:53
LADS. (I would like to keep Baines) BUT no player is bigger than Everton or irreplaceable, players come and go but Everton remains and so do the fans.
If he goes, he goes. He's just one player and Moyes will replace him and have change to get a couple more players.
Chill out.

Everton Football Club 1878 The cities first.
Bigger than one player.

MikeTheBlue

Couldnt put it better myself MikeTheBlue totally agree lad,we are Everton the greatest team with the greatest fans and were not a deluded bunch like a certain bunch of fans we know. Terry blue

No player is bigger than the club, I agree, but our left hand side has been one of our main attacking outlets. Baines being the catalyst. Left backs are hard to come by at the best of times but someone with Baines' tallent is irreplaceable in my opinion. Anyway, he loves Everton and probably doesn't even want to go so no need to worry.

Wizard of Osman

This is what it says in the Echo...

But Baines said: “I think there is a problem in that players do have to be sold. Obviously, over the years, manager David Moyes has lost players here and there that I am sure he would have liked to keep.

“Whether that was because the club has needed the money or whether it's because they have received what they considered to be a considerable bid for a player, I can't say.

“But the club has always done good business in that sense and the manager has done well in bringing in people at a certain amount and when they have moved on, he has tended to double his money - or more.

“But maybe it would be nice to see us hang on to those players and add a couple.”

Despite constant links with Manchester United since the 2011/12 season ended, Baines added: “I've been aware of what's been sort of said in the press and what's not. I don't know much beyond that to tell you the truth. I can't really say too much about it.

“I've got three years still to go on my contract. I don't think it does anyone any harm to be linked with a club like Manchester United. But it doesn't do any good, either.

“It is just one of those things. It tends to swing around at this time of the year. People put two and two together sometimes they get four and sometimes they get three or five.

"It gets other people more excited than those involved."

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I don't think he's going anywhere.

We're on the verge of having a great team - 2 or 3 additions needed - we do not want to start selling our best players for a measly 15 million! Let's keep Baines for at least another year and see if we can get into champs league - if we have pienaar and naismith and possibly donovan we really do have a chance - then 15mil will be pocket money

Keep Baines and tell Fergie to develop his own players! FOF!

It's about money. If Moyes gets top whack, then he'd be a fool to keep hold of any player. Rooney and Lescott funded a lot of decent buys by Moyes. If Baines or Fellaini can be used to do the same, then we ultimately benefit.

NB: Al clubs with a handful of exceptions sell players if their values suddenly become high. Sometimes the club has one chance to make a mint, as was the case with Lescott.

I'm not saying sell, just that selling could be a means to a greater end should we get a big offer.

Im not saying we should but selling the donkey to the s**te made Newcastle a much better team they got cisse ben arfa cabaye and others and almost got champions league we could do the same but only if a really good offer comes in ie.25-30m for Baines

The Mancs sold Ronaldo...simple

02 Jul 2012 11:20:49
So the rumours that are looking realsitic are Pranjic, Naismith and Pienaar, the only one that could be tough is Donovan.

I'd be happy with that and it's realistic Pranjic and Naismith are free and Pienaar would surely cost around 4 million, surely the board can help Moyes with 4 million without selling Baines or Fellaini!!
If we can get these 3 players, keep our key players and maybe get a free striker or a striker on loan then this season could be a special one for the blues!

Donovan would of course be a huge bonus also.

COYB

02 Jul 2012 09:25:25
What do you think?
1) Pranjic in for free (70%)
2) Naismith in for free (90%)
3) Pienaar signed (30%)
4) Baines sold to MU (50%)
Agree with the possibilities? {Ed025's Note - i think the pienaar one is too low...but quite good mate..

Pranjic (80%)
Naismith (99.9%)
Pienaar (70%)
Baines to MU (30%)

Dave

Nah mate, think baines going to MU is 0% to be honest dont think he is going anywhere.

ewefc

02 Jul 2012 01:16:44
On Wikipedia it's says on naismiths page he is an everton player do they know something we don't ?? {Ed025's Note - wikipedia can be changed by anyone..

It doesn't it says Free Agent and it can be edited by anyone.

Pecko