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25 Jan 2020 18:35:49
Said about 2 years ago to sign Traore from Boro (about 12mill) was shot down, headless chicken I was told said all he needed was coaching about his final ball. That's what a good coach does with a player. Five goals and 10 assists in 35 games later! Gave Robertson a tough time the other night, has destroyed City twice. he's right footed and actually plays on the right. Imagine Ricky, DCL, Moise and Traore. Wonder how much youd pay for him now? Slightly better stats than Walcott and Iwobi! But hey let's sign Everton from Brazil (unproven) or Hirving Lozano who's been a flop at Napoli. Both about 30mill plus and guess what both left wingers. Need another 1 of them like we need a hole in the head. The recruitment at Everton is a joke, you couldn't make it up. No wonder were close to breaking FFP rules.

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25 Jan 2020 19:30:54
But Traore was unproven in the Prem when you say you were getting stick for suggesting him. Every player needs time. And whilst it’s easy to slate our poor signings wouldn’t it be better to give them some time too like the same years that traore had. Our recruitment has been both excellent and poor. Digne, Gomes, Richarlison already good. Yes there are others that are poor. I wouldn’t call the whole thing a joke though.

25 Jan 2020 20:48:48
All through Silvas tenure they were seeking a left footed right winger, it’s all this cutting inside malarkey
Ancelotti might favour a right footed right winger for his 442 though.

25 Jan 2020 21:05:45
Either way ST, we will then need a left footed - left winger 🤯.

25 Jan 2020 21:16:25
With regards to Traore you say every player needs time to prove himself. Once he's proved himself isn't that when you have to pay 30 to 50mill?
Surely everyone could see he had pace, that he just needed coaching. Surely the idea is to spot a players potential (I. e. Gueye) before anyone else does. Isn't that what we pay a scout for?

26 Jan 2020 04:03:38
Yes you’re right. But scouts don’t always get it right. You mention Gueye, well it was Steve Walsh who brought him in. The same Steve Walsh that got us Sandro. Probably our best and worst signing right there.

26 Jan 2020 05:38:18
In all honesty, dplanno, we could have bought him from Boro but the managers we had before CA probably wouldn't have taken him to the next level. Credit to Nunes for improving him as much as he has.

26 Jan 2020 07:14:19
Wolves took the chance and will make a ton of cash and have a player on their hands but his "transformation" from well documented "headless chicken" to "where did that come from" is a rarified turn around.

You win some you lose some. Silva wouldn't have had the skill set to get him to this level. Just look at his back catalogue of opportunities and see he really was past last chance. Good on him, he's a beast but it's no transfer model. That's just lucky that he finally got a chance and took it for a change. Been pretty awful anti climax for years.

He'd be amazing but never going to happen. Also with his bulk, there is zero chance he will have a long stay in the game. He will fade fast from 30 unless he tones down. It's just unsustainable.

26 Jan 2020 11:03:24
Theo Walcott is a perfect example. We've all been waiting 12 years for his pace to be matched with an end product and we're still waiting.

It is literally a flip of a coin.

26 Jan 2020 12:23:09
Traore was just a case in point think 2 years ago for 12mill? he was a no brainer. You say scouts make good and bad recomendations I. e. Gueye then Sandro and your right. Then Bolasie Klaessen Schneiderlin Siggurdson Tosun Walcott and more who suggested them? We've lost a fortune on them. I thought the idea was to buy players who go up in value. Heres some recomendations from Liverpools scouts. Mane 34mill worth now 100 plus, Firmono 20mill? worth 80 plus, Salah 40mill worth 100 plus, VVD 75mill worth 100 plus. And finally Robertson 8mill (he makes my case regarding Traore) I'm even worried now Brands (who I used to rate) is in charge, we need a right winger so let's sign Iwobi, who actually played for Arsenal on the LEFT for 35mill, when the lad is actually worth about 17mill if that. As I said frightening!

26 Jan 2020 12:26:14
England V Croatia under Cappello was the guys high water mark. Oh and didn't he have 1 season where he banged in about 10 in 12 games once?

26 Jan 2020 12:32:09
You don't need to pick and choose the stats that suit DPL. All we had for 20 years was laughing at the money LFC have wasted on rubbish over the years when we were firmly shopping in the bargain baskets.
You made a good debate but it's not a thread to get worked up over mate.

26 Jan 2020 13:36:50
What players are worth and what they transfer for is too difficult to nail down to a number like you’ve done with Iwobi. I agree that Liverpool have players who are worth those figures but we are talking about the champions designate here. We have players also that will make us profit. Richarlison, Bernard, DCL, Digne, Coleman, Gomes, Kean being some obvious ones. Some we paid a lot for and others were free. But they are all likely to bring a good return. Not all bought off the back of the same scouts but plenty to shout about.

26 Jan 2020 13:49:23
You're a bundle of laughs aren't you dplanno.
I was one of those who thought he was a headless chicken. Yes he was very very quick but he literally had nothing else to his game. Even last season he struggled when he joined Wolves.
Credit to the lad he has obviously worked hard and looks to have a bright future. A couple of years ago though, he was indeed an unproven waste of money! You said surely we should have signed him because everyone could see he has pace - well Usain Bolt is still putting himself out there, should we sign him?

26 Jan 2020 14:41:38
Let's not sign players on one good season anymore please.
Let Traore have more than half a good season before pumping loads of money on him.

26 Jan 2020 16:02:26
impressive I can't remember what I said yesterday mate.





 

 

 
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