Everton Banter Archive June 11 2013

11 Jun 2013 22:51:17
So we sold another asset today. 40 years of rent.
Goodson park will follow, sometime in the next few years.

This stinks of cooking the books.

Why are we all kidding ourselves, this board and chairman are only filling their own bank accounts.

JM must be rolling in his grave, our club is being dismantled from the inside, some may say just like a cancer on the human body.

DARK DAYS ARE AHEAD MY FELLOW EVERTONIANS

As far as I know we sold finch farm to a private company not long after we moved in and we then rented it back, a common move for many businesses across the world. If its now owned by the council it may be good for us because they may charge less rent

We have been renting Finch Farm for years, and we've just got a cheaper rent deal in partnership with The City Council.
Man City had a partnership with their City Council which led to their new stadium and ultimately a takeover. Hardly 'dark days'.
Anyway welcome back Mushy.

Biffy, oh Biffy. come on lad, support the team and stop looking at the finances. We don`t know for sure what the transfer money is. Come the 31st August and we have made no signings I will hold my hands up and apologise, however I will always support Everton and will not complain!

As said, we have been renting finch farm since it opened, this deal with the council makes the rent less

Sources said that we were paying £2 million per year. Now it has been bought by the council we are only being charged £500,000 per year so it makes sense what we have done.

Andy

Biffy your post is based on a non existent fact you think you have read. Today's news is actually very good. Slightly embarrased for you actually. I'd change that sign in name. Not sure many can take you too seriously having served up that dross.

Biffy:

'' JM must be rolling in his grave, our club is being dismantled from the inside, some may say just like a cancer on the human body.

DARK DAYS ARE AHEAD MY FELLOW EVERTONIANS ''

Well just before I buy that one way ticket to Beachy Head : (

I honestly believe you care about our beloved EFC Biff,

However mate you need to hang on to what ever rational you have left!

When the new season begins it's all hands to the pump which means you and every other Evertonian need to support this great club of ours.

NIL SATIS NISI OPTIMUM

11 Jun 2013 20:09:35
So many that think they've got it all sussed. Find a biilianaire, sell the club, build a £500m stadium and messi, then rule the world.

It's not like that. You need to be successful to attract interest and the right kind of interest. You need to invest to be successful. The board have done everything they can to make us successful. We have relevant debt but I would like to see it reduced to make us more attractive to buyers.

Remember though it has to be the right buyer. Look at Portsmouth, Liverpool as a an example of bad buyers. And look at other clubs that have been run into the ground like Blackburn, Bolton and Wolves.

Our club is run extremely well and we are competative. One of our main issues is communication which has to be improved but we will be sold at some point and because of Bill it will be to the buyer who has a vision suitable for our great club.

BK has put his personal wealth on the line as well as countless, THANKLESS hours into our club and I bet half of the people moaning about him probably don't even have a shirt or season ticket!

I totally agree Blue, at the end of the Martinez`s press conference Bill confirmed that he and the board would do everything to support Roberto`s signings.
I am so pissed off with these so called Evertonians who are constantly after Kenwrights head. I am sure these are the few that went to the games in the 70`s and 80`s looking for a fight!
Sailor

Take moyes out of the equation, everton under kenwright has been a shambles. stadium fiascos bigger debt, any half decent businessman run a mile. trevor birch, Paul gregg, Wyness. granchester can't stand him. we've progressed on the pitch not due to backing but astute management. bk is in bed with the likes of earl and green hence a price of125 million hence no investment. thankless hours into the club that's his job and thers thousand of season ticket holders who base their views on bk on hard nosed facts, not on cringey speeches about the old days,. he's out of his depth and everton pay the price.

The board have put nothing in and Kenwright used personal wealth to buy sharea and is waiting for his big pay day.

Personal wealth, he borrowed the money off his mates wife! Time he jogged on

Earl, Jon woods. tell me what they have done. what a joke {Ed025's Note - tell me about it mate..

The main problem is the rigged league caused by champions league set up - which means massive money to top 4 and much much less to everyone else - meaning its just impossible to compete any more - it's 'game over' for next 100 years or forever or til we all get bored with Man United or man city or maybe 1 other billionaire club winning it every year

Fans of all other teams should be complaining more

Gone are the days when a decent manager like clough or Kendal could put a cracking team together and win the league - it can't happen now which is v sad and just boring in a way

Complain more to league and to radio phone ins

3rd poster, support the team and stop f***ing complaining, I am sick to the back teeth of you Kenwright haters. As a former poster wrote `who would you like to take over?` Considering Bill is a passionate supporter would you prefer a Sheikh from abudabi to take control?
Sailor

Well said BlueJohn.
As for the fourth reply who wants him to jog on, he also mortgaged his own home. Jog on.

Guys, what you have to realise is the likes of `Robert Earl` and `John Woods` were not brought on to the board of Everton to provide money, only expertise. Yes, they have vast amounts of money but not the amount to run or highly invest in a football club. You rodents who infest our Football Club wanting a Saudi or another Billionaire to take us over should be banned from Goodison. Good riddance
Sailor

No just a board with a plan which shows progress befitting a club of evertons stature

12 Jun 2013 00:59:33
Well said mate agree 100% people need to realise its not as simple as sell the club to a rich arab and we are successful it involves other things aswell such as his patience with managers and whether or not he takes us to a portsmought level etc.

It gets me that a lot of fans hate bill. but a member of the board. lord granchester is worth 1. 1 billion. why aren't fans getting on his back to buy all these players they want. or is he a silent board member who won't put his hand in his pocket

To all the boys that are slagging off the board why don't you all get together pool all your cash and buy the club. If you have not got enough cash for that how about paying some of the players wages. Then you might understand why people are a little reluctant to throw their money away at a football club.

11 Jun 2013 18:20:49
D bent all day long no need 4 kone! What u think people?

I think both could do a job but I would like to see Jelavic work with Martinez, because I think Martinez will get him scoring again. Jeli will probably leave before he gets that chance, which I think is a shame. (Wavertree Blue)

11 Jun 2013 21:33:09
Neither for me mate. Kone does nothing for me and Bent couldn't even get a game in a team that was fighting relegation

We won't be looking at either of them
Degsy

Down to attitude mate, both good players, but Bent always seems to have issues. Kone just does a job.
Would rather we looked for pacey striker myself.

No way Bent, need to look for a possible prolific striker.
Bluenos.

I think if you can get him for a good price, he'll be a worthwhile acquisition. Sure he was rubbish at Spuds, but he was decent at every other club. I suspect further appearance/goals at Villa would've activated another payment. A bit like Craig Gordon at Sunderland. I'd take Bent in a heartbeat. Still a good player and only 29 (I think!)

Got to agree with Wavertree Blue, I think Roberto will get the best out of Jelavic, but he likes to play 2 up front and I can`t see that being Vic. so Kone might fit the bill (no pun intended!)
Sailor

12 Jun 2013 04:09:31
kone is no better than big vic. need something diff upfront

11 Jun 2013 17:18:40
anyone got any info about when the new kits are being released?

11 Jun 2013 17:03:13
Fans are being too harsh on Naismith, too fickle some people, guarantee if he turned good fans would start loving him. Get behind the team.

Totally 100% agree with you mate, he came to us injured and needs a full pre-season under his belt and play him up front with Jelevic.

I love rangers and watch every match I can. He was good for us up there but was never EPL class.

I don't think he liked being used as he was last year by Moyes and he isn't very defensive minded but I think he is better than his showing last season but not much.

12 Jun 2013 04:16:23
suprised you back him bluejohn most of the unwashed hate him for jumpin ship when liquidated

11 Jun 2013 16:32:44
Eds, I've noted a lot of negative replies to the posts today particularly posts about the badge or kenwright, and questioning peoples knowledge of our history, each one disagreeing strongly with the op and offering very negative points instead and each one unsigned. Are they all off the same poster by any chance?
Blue22 {Ed025's Note - no mate..

Probably to do with the reporting of the BU meeting. Big Nev slating him and the meeting showing that since he took over as chairman, he has brought nothing to the club. We all know he is not a billionaire, but we as a club have stagnated behind the scenes, and that is down to the board.

I've been a negative poster on bk. my main beef is not just about investment. it's progress the board seams to sit like a gentle mans club with bill coming out every now and then with a speech on emotions on being like us. we need new dynamics in the board, he's leads us, his appointments or any new arrivals on the board, never achieve anything elstrone was a deputy CEO, earl was brought in, for what. I don't like bashing kenwright. when bill came in arsenal played in a similar ground with a similar fan base. the difference now is massive. spurs under levy are pushing on,. as a club we are standing still,. we need to make some key decisions if there's no sign of investment, get a new business plan because we've had the same for years. anyone who supports bill must admit that are commercial model has been abysmal for a club of everton size. with are board now are aspirations and are standards have slipped. Neville southall can be outspoken but he made a statement the other day that we shouldn't be happy even comin second. we should be hearing more of this, moyes went to utd with a whimper. Being chairman of everton u have to be up to the job. for over a 100 years are boards were revered and spoken of has been pioneers in the english game the last 20 years them standards have been not nearly good enough.

I agree kenwright do use a favour walk away please your killing our club we need a billionare

12 Jun 2013 04:19:56
blue22 have to agree with you. notice the people that replied didn't leave a name

11 Jun 2013 16:11:18
What strikers (realistically) do people want aubemyang would be my first choice can also play RW if jely hits form again
Quinny

Not withstanding his ongoing legal problemes, loc remmy 8m buy out, might be within our range.

Soldado

I would not have loic remy, his move to qpr instead of newcastle just shows he only cares about the money

11 Jun 2013 14:16:21
Having previously hated the new badge, I have just seen it next to milans chelseas inters juventus etc on the Guinness International cup website and it doesn't look as bad. Especially if its only for this season

BradEFC

I have also said I now like it whereas I hated it at first

It looks good on the leaked pictures of the kits imo, there is no yellow on the badge on the home shirt

More intested in premiership points than the badge. I don't think the new one is that bad anyway. you need to get your priorities in order or would you rather finish in the bottom six but keep the old badge!

What is 4th poster on? We're just discussing the badge if that's OK with you? It's not like we can contribute anything at the moment to us finishing anywhere in the league - and who said we said the badge was more important anyway? - it's just something to talk about during quiet summer months - tut!

The fourth poster sound like a right crank. noone even mentioned that

The fourth poster is absolutely spot on. So much other stuff we could be talking about right now at the start of JUNE.

11 Jun 2013 13:29:34
Hi Ed how far are we from our first signing? {Ed025's Note - i would be guessing mate..

Guess ed {Ed025's Note - ok....7-32pm on 24th june..

Good guess Ed, How accurate is that guess? and if you don`t know, can you guess? Cheers. {Ed025's Note - it will be within 30 seconds i expect..

Ed is that fee agreed, contract signed or press comfrance {Ed025's Note - all three. :)

11 Jun 2013 12:51:41
Eds Have I been blacklisted from posting on this sight? even if its to simply answer yes please print this post with a response. jlaff {Ed025's Note - not that i know of jlaff, but i will check mate..

Thanks ed025 - I should nt think so I tend to post non-derogatory comments - but nothing I've posted has been printed - cheers for clarifying

11 Jun 2013 11:54:49
Kenwright out time to go bill {Ed025's Note - sigh..

Ah not this nonsense already Ed please stop this sort of negative post, cheers GuernseyBlur {Ed025's Note - the reason i post stuff like this mate, is to show how some guys feel, its not everyones view, but it is an open forum..

SO SAD.

If the OP at least left a name that would be something - even if I don't agree with his views. Using an alias (as I obviously do!) is one thing in my book, but hiding behind complete anonymity is another IMHO.
Belgian-Bunn

I'm not a kenwright fan feel is vanity has got in the way of progress in the past,. we heard the Martinez press conference were bk said he's not guna ask 4 champions league. and then not back Martinez, he said he would back him, let's see if he's good to his word. everyone on same page to give roberto a good and fair go.

Red troll alert!
Blue22

Blue 22, red troll because people question kenwright,. are the kenwright supporters a first generation of everton fans seems to me that way. i'm from a family who are all everton fans, my friends families are all everton fans. the biggest bk critics seem to be grandads and older fans. they hate him and his spiel. My grandad sighed and laughed when he seen new badge saying that sums the man up.

Grow up, shouldn't you of been in bed at that time, it's a school night

TC

Liverpool council bought finch farm, embarrassing for board but get a better rent deal for everton. absolute joke. everythink about evertons commercial model is a joke.

Tc have I hit a nerve. just stating a fact. its people like u who listen to bill and think he's a doing fine. and people like me who dare suggest after another blunder about badge that are chairman should be selling hot dogs outside the ground. kenwright hid behind moyes success for the last decade, his job is to lead the club with the times both commercially and with with a vision to progress,. failed badly on every avenue. tc when u sing if u know your history understand the song. {Ed025's Note - BK is a part of our history mate..i dont mind you airing your views, just dont try to impose them on others who appreciate what the man has, and continues to do, which is give his heart and soul for the club..

Its funny how the majority of fans who say kenwright out look forward to new signings this summer. saying who we need or who we should get. ok then kick bill out and then scratch your heads as to why we haven't made any signings of any sort. he the man who gets us the cash ffs. and I thought being a everton fan ment getting behind the whole club. top to bottom

Absolute nonsense if u come out with drivel like that on match day on county road ud be lynched. sick of heart soul and his love for everton. make some decisions that benefit the club. he can't sell the club because he's in bed with people who have no interest in everton hence 125 asking price is that for the love of the club. the man is inept and vain. motto of badge. move to Kirkby. no agms countless mistakes. kenwright out

An everton board should back it's manager

He's been the worst chairman in our history. there's a myth that everton where in deep financial trouble under johnson, the truth is he knew he never had the financial muscle so he got out. kenwright bought the club and what has he achieved not moyes him and board. in more debt now, stadium, finch farm. he can't sell the club because thevreal power lies in people who have no love for the club, hence a asking price which is far to high. the man may have a place in our history and does love everton but his tenure has been a catalogue of disasters.

Is kenwright the only board member?. The others are worth millions yet we still pay off debt like a mortgage.

Im more embarrased for the fans who think he's done a good job, off the pitch we are a joke with countless mistakes and bad business decisions. He even thobbed shareholders off for years about getting AGMS back, fellow bluenoses with shares tut tut PADDOCKBLUE

You haven't hit any nerves mate. Your just a bitter non supporter who has no clue what she's on about. You just swipe at whatever you can because you can't handle the pressure elsewhere in your life. Bill was this clubs saviour. We don't need saving now, just a billion. Go find it then Mr BIG I AM

A non supporter whos had a season ticket for over 25yrs and goes most aways HAHA PADDOCKBLUE

11 Jun 2013 11:17:21
Any serious interest in Demba Ba Ed? {Ed025's Note - not that i know of mate..

Cant see it myself. Don't think we would risk the money on him if we didn't risk it on Fer in January with dodgy knee. And I think Chelsea would be asking for more than the £7mill they paid for him plus his wages. But quality player and the mold of player we should be looking at. IMO

11 Jun 2013 09:35:23
Anyone think swap deal Rooney for Fellaini could go ahead? Would Wayne come back for less wages and love for the club? {Ed025's Note - no chance.

Rooney is past it

Rooney is far from finished, and if he did come back (which sadly won't happen), he would be by far the best player in the team. Take the chip off your shoulder and put your football head on mate.

Rooney better than anything we've got. Nough said.

Rooney is useless. He had talent when he was young and used to gun past people and smash it from anywhere. Unfortunately he tried to become Paul scholes, ruining himself in the process.

11 Jun 2013 00:01:00
Ed0025 why do you think there is so little chance on us signing Leroy Fer?

BradEFC {Ed025's Note - experience brad..it would be good...but i dont want to build peoples hopes up..

10 Jun 2013 22:46:28
Ed can you give us an indication as to when Martinez will make his first signing? {Ed025's Note - no mate..

He doesn't take over til 1st july

I wouldn't have thought his takeover date would be a hindrance seen as though Pellegrini has agreed deals with Fernandinho and Jesus Navas when he is technically not Manchester City's manager yet.

BitterBlue

He would of told Bill who he wants and who he would like to sell already. It'll come down to how quick we negotiate with the clubs and players etc. So wouldn't expect any signing before the players return to training maybe even couple of weeks after that. IMO

And of course Bill's such a cheapskate he doesn't like to sign people until as late as possible to save non playing summer wages

10 Jun 2013 23:14:54
Team next year maybe
Howard
Coleman jags Distin baines
Fer Gibson McCarthy
Mirrales. Negrado. Moses

10 Jun 2013 22:25:09
Demba Ba, anyone? reckon Everton are one of the favourites to sign him, when Mourinho's had his clearout.

10 Jun 2013 21:18:21
If you had a choice between Fer or Honda who would you choose? i'd have fer yes honda would be cheaper but fer is a class player.

Andy

I bet you haven't seen a match fer has played because at the moment Hondas twice the player I would be a better osman

Fer is good but go on youtube and watch what honda does. His free kicks are awesome as are baines' s but honda hits em with awesome power. he very quick and skilled on the ball. Plus honda is a att mid where fer is a box to box mid

I would go for Honda myself if had to choose as we need more attacking options its probably what cost us a European place last year. Plus he would probably cost a couple mill cheaper than Fer. But would still like to think we could get both and keep Fellani

Right now, I would go for Honda as well. Think we could still do with a creative player and that is what Honda brings. Very good on the ball, creative, can pick a pass and his free kicks are world class.

Aside from his on field potential, the fact that he is more or less, alongside Kagawa, the face of football in Japan and would surely boost our bottom line with merchandise.

10 Jun 2013 20:36:53
I just want to gauge peoples thoughts. Who would take fer and mccarthy for fellaini or would you be happy to just keep felli. Also in just reading peoples post i'm amused to see people call mccarthy a good squad player, this kid is going to be a star when wigan beat us in the cup he ran the show plus arsenal and chelsea have been linked so he is no mug and he is the real deal.

bluepaddy

He would surely command a fairly hefty transfer fee (even if it's a reasonable initial payment with various add-ons), but I reckon he would bring something extra to our centre-midfield.
Belgian-Bunn {Ed025's Note - there is no doubt he is a good player bunn, it will all boil down to cost mate..