Everton Banter

18 Oct 2025 20:56:06
Never really expected anything from today. Our record against City is terrible. No Grealish absolutely kills us. We lose all of our composure on the ball or ability to change the pace of the game, the width and balance disappear because Charlie wants to naturally drift inside. It is not his fault, he just isn't a wide player.

The strikers we all know about already.

I think both those goals were avoidable though and our defence should be questioned, especially since they get their praise when they play well.

Same sh**e has been happening time and time again, Michael Keane has been involved for years but I noticed that Tarkowski suffers the same terrible decision to ball watch.

I will never understand why when the opposition flanker has the ball and is driving down the line, our entire backline just ball watch staying in line with the full back and continue running towards the goal until they are right in Pickfords way and on his goal line.

Haaland didn't even have to be clever or creative to find space, he literally just slowed down and had a tap in. Why isn't at least one of the CB's staying tight, the other one defends the cut back and the marks the space. It is not like the old days where they have 2 strikers to worry about and move off them.

It was very much rinse and repeat for their second as well.

If that penalty decision was down the other end, they get it. Not that it would have mattered.

On to the next one.

18 Oct 2025 21:04:39
Moyes has said Keane should of stuck to Haarland for 1st goal but he kept running goalwards because of watching what winger was doing and not where haarland was. Was a really good 1st half performance and Ndiaye was up for it today. Loved it in 1st half when he was breaking from our half and had 3 to 4 man city players trying to tackle fresh air as he turned them inside out. But games over and spurs next. Jack's back and back to a more consistent team next week.

18 Oct 2025 22:09:37
Did he actually Dentie? Well I guess that is a start because no one has ever told them afterwards before. Happened so many times over the years, it is criminal.

Moyes sets his teams up well which is why we always have chances to pick up wins but this team is still weak in vital areas. We have very very limited full backs, that offer nothing in transition. They leave our wingers isolated and never get ahead of them to offer an out ball. Our centre halves work very hard but they aren't good with the ball. JB coming back will be great for us. Then our strikers are just another story.

Ndiaye is a top quality player mate. I have said it for a while, he could play for any team in the league and improve them imo. His work rate and desire is phenomenal and his ability with the ball and to keep it is as good as any wide player. His level would only go up with better players around him as well.

Get as many points as we can before Jan and then try and get a forward with some ability in and a RB. Moyes teams usually finish well in the league. Get to the summer in a fair position in the table so that we can attract better talent and go again.

As many have said, we won't fix the side in one window.

18 Oct 2025 19:07:28
I don't follow our youth and no longer have access to 'in the know'. Do we even have big strong strikers to replace Beto and his son.

18 Oct 2025 19:32:23
No. We have Graham and Benjamin, neither of whom are physically great, Benjamin has a bit of pace, Graham is like Cannon was in our academy, athletically average but known as a decent finisher.

Neither will make it to our first team if we are being honest. Will have careers in league 1 and 2 maybe.

18 Oct 2025 20:15:34
Chrs!

18 Oct 2025 20:48:59
Reckon we should put a bid in for haaland in jan probably would jump at the chance to get away from that Spanish know it all aren't all Norwegians half scouse anyway.

18 Oct 2025 19:03:28
Who bought beto and Barry? who where the scouts watched them? Who ga e the OK for the money to be released? , where they good at scoring goals at one time or have they always been this bad, if so why dud we buy them?

18 Oct 2025 19:24:46
Answers on a postcard please.

18 Oct 2025 19:35:17
Answers on a p45.

{Ed025's Note - lets hope so mate..

18 Oct 2025 19:51:01
We spent over £60m on Barry and Dibling. Would have preferred us to go after Wissa or Vlahovic or even Woltemade. £60m!

18 Oct 2025 21:01:44
Barry won 3 headers so that's a sign he's finally been encouraged to believe he's 6ft5. Ok 1 went out for a throw and 2 others pinged off in random directions but he won 100% of his aerials which is a big improvement. People saying if Beto had scored we could have won. Well, with that logic we could have let in 7. So that's 7-2.

18 Oct 2025 21:38:12
Yeah the same Wissa that has a knee injury ruling him out for the rest of the season, what a signing he would’ve been.

18 Oct 2025 18:01:45
Lack of a striker is killing us.

{Ed025's Note - it is DMS, the same old tactic of playing a cabbage and replacing him with a turnip at half time is achieving nothing mate, but it is something we will have to put up with until at least January i expect, lets hope that we can muddle trough and get results in spite of it and stay clear of the dreaded relegation battle..

18 Oct 2025 18:24:01
Been saying that for ever it’s such a bloody shame we were the better Team first half and could have gone in 2 nil up.

18 Oct 2025 18:25:24
So frustrating because we are a good side. Beaten by a freak of nature today. Teams need to swamp the players behind him.

18 Oct 2025 18:28:02
Couldn't have put it better myself ed.

18 Oct 2025 18:41:41
Ivan Toney in January is a must, dunno when Delap is back, but Guiu on loan would be great too.

18 Oct 2025 19:16:13
Given our strikers I didn't really expect much more and, now we have Spurs to contend with next weekend. Hope January sees an accomplished striker bought. As ed 025 says in the meantime muddle through as best we can.

18 Oct 2025 20:41:46
Mateta from palace would be good for us but can't see palace selling him. Larssen from Wolves doesn't look bad either but I guess both wouldn't be available to us. Agree with Swan117 that Toney would be very good signing, but could we afford his obscene wages that he'll be on in Saudi.

18 Oct 2025 16:35:47
City were crap up to their first goal we should have been 2 up at half time, all these chances we are not taking are costing us.

18 Oct 2025 16:39:58
Blame the board, they didn’t buy a proven striker in the summer, all us fans could see it and now it’s coming back to bite the team on the bum. We paid £45 million on a very young inexperienced Dibling who may or may not be one for the future when we should have really spending that money on a top forward…we desperately need a proven striker in January!

18 Oct 2025 17:07:09
Can’t get all the players in we need in one window we spent £113 million, I can’t get my head around why we can’t play one of our under 21 strikers can’t do any worse that what we have.

18 Oct 2025 17:43:44
Because none of our under 21 strikers are good enough to even offer what Beto has so far (hold up, work rate) and playing them for no reason other than “well they can’t be worse” is not going to work.

18 Oct 2025 18:03:23
Give the lad a velcro top.

18 Oct 2025 18:26:18
Nor does playing a totally useless one either, don’t try we will never know mate.

18 Oct 2025 19:02:53
Work rate because he runs around a bit without actually doing anything of note. But hold up play? His second touch is usually a tackle, he puts us under pressure far too much with his pass poor hold up play.

18 Oct 2025 19:33:52
I am not saying Beto is good, while his hold up isn’t good, he can at least sometimes do it. Our academy players would be physically broken by any of the premier league centre backs.

{Ed025's Note - like it or not Swan we are stuck with him until the next window im afraid...maybe even longer, i would like us to play a different style of play if im honest and get away from this boot the ball long to a target man especially when the said target man is extremely poor, we have some very good attacking players who can cut through a defence rather than hope for a second phase ball coming off defenders mate, unfortunately David is set in stone and has always had a pragmatic approach to the game so even if we had Haaland i doubt things would change much..but it is what it is..

18 Oct 2025 20:01:49
We genuinely haven’t had a good striker since Lukaku. To think he got dogs abuse just because he didn’t track back and had a dodgy first touch, is hilarious to look back on. Miles above anything we’ve had since the 80s.

18 Oct 2025 20:05:52
Sometimes do it is not enough we need to start scoring and getting points something has to change Beto is not the answer.

18 Oct 2025 20:44:19
Never got why Lukaku was given abuse for not tracking back. He was our main source of goals and he was no good in our box.

18 Oct 2025 15:52:58
Two glorious chances for Beto first half and as usual he fluffs them, he is abysmal.

18 Oct 2025 16:12:40
He is a terrible terrible footballer.

18 Oct 2025 15:17:54
Here we go again should be one up but Beto missssssssses ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

18 Oct 2025 15:55:20
Good movement to shake off the defender. If only he had a longer leg GB yeah? 😄
Beto done more in that half than Haaland did and we’re in the Eitihad.
The hating on Beto is boring we all already know we need a striker mate.

18 Oct 2025 16:16:51
As boring as all the misses mate.

18 Oct 2025 16:26:26
Don’t hate anyone mate.

18 Oct 2025 19:01:28
It's not hating, it's facing up to facts. Some of you just can't admit how shocking he is yet are first to accuse others of hating him!

What is boring is the constant 'he works hard' what does that actually mean? It's another way of saying he's a nice fella, runs around a lot (without actually doing anything useful) but he's not good enough for the level he is playing.

At this point there is absolutely no argument, he is a poor footballer who needs to be sold this January. He is one of the worst forwards to ever put on an Everton shirt.

18 Oct 2025 06:18:27
We dodged a bullet as the 777 partnership co founder has just been charged with fraud.

18 Oct 2025 08:46:10
Sure did mate.

18 Oct 2025 09:33:35
Never forget Moshiri wanted to sell us to them and Textor, got us the stadium yes but tried his best to kill the club at the same time.

18 Oct 2025 09:55:59
It went so toxic and bad he would have sold to anyone to get shut, just glad it collapsed and is over.

17 Oct 2025 17:53:22
Ed025/ All - Grealish unavailable and possibly Keane out. O'Brien may have to move central. What would your starting 11 be against City?

A few of our players can cover so many different positions like Garner and KDH. If Keane doesn't play it might be a blessing not having O'Brien against Doku. Do we put Jimmy there and then KDH can drop back and Charlie goes in his favoured 10, Ndiaye on his favoured left-side for 1 week and Dibling on the right. That does bring into play the Beto/ Barry/ Neither conundrum. If Garner is at right back one of the two simply has to play or alternatively we go Coleman and shift Alcaraz or Ndiaye up top.

{Ed025's Note - for me we have to sacrifice Jimmy and play him at right back BN, a shame because he has been excellent in midfield for me, it has to be Alcaraz in midfield with Beto up top im afraid because Barry will hopefully be busy cutting up the oranges for half time mate, as much as i like Seamus Doku will just be too quick for him imo..

17 Oct 2025 19:09:34
Beto up front not for me Ed any chances we get of getting a goal ithas to go in the net mate, Alcaraz has better chances than him in doing that.

{Ed025's Note - i agree that its not ideal GB but it is what it is, we are not going to change our style overnight and the long ball game is part of Davids DNA, the fact is that we play for the second ball off a target man mate and Alcaraz is just not that type of player imo..

17 Oct 2025 21:24:14
2-1 Everton tomorrow with a last min goal by Beto 😁.

17 Oct 2025 23:49:18
Ed25 I honestly would put keane upfront for target man haha.

{Ed025's Note - i think its a decent option Bretto but cant see it happening mate..

18 Oct 2025 09:36:46
Really wish Rohl was fit, if we drop KDH back we will be overrun in midfield and bullied. But we need Alcaraz because of his pace and connection with Beto, but he’d be wasted out wide.

Tough decisions for the manager, Garner has to play right back for me, as good as he’s been in midfield, I think that’s where he will end up. He has good defensive instincts and great end product.

Playing anyone other than Beto or Barry upfront is pointless, they’ll just get bullied by whoever City have in defence and none of Alcaraz or Ndiaye are fast enough to play balls over the top to.

18 Oct 2025 14:10:46
Surely we still don't have to name 2 keepers on the bench, their must be another outfield player to make up the numbers.

17 Oct 2025 16:58:13
I have to say, it is much nicer listening to these pre-match pressers on the drive home with Moyes answering the questions, than it was with the 'Ginger Mourinho'.

Instead of the general smarminess, the self-comparisons to Pep, the limitations he put on his players with his pre-match waffle or the tiresome catchphrases about "changing the story " or "the hard yards". You get Moyes speaking well about the players and instilling trust, backing them (Pickford, Tarkowski and Beto) but never going over board. Commenting on the work that Beto is doing to get better was smart. Aware we have him until January regardless, so it is wise to back the lad, whilst in the background making sure we have a striker come in.

Wouldn't half be funny if Barry started ahead of him on Saturday now though!

17 Oct 2025 17:39:27
Would like to see Alcaraz up front mate.

17 Oct 2025 17:56:55
Not against it GB mate. If Keane is out do you go Garner RB or his best position in the middle? If he is right back that means either Dibling or Iroegbunam have to play, if we want Charlie up top.

17 Oct 2025 19:12:13
Just don’t feel Beto is the man to get us the goals, we will get chances to score just don’t want him in the Team we have to try something different.

17 Oct 2025 20:00:33
We need to be quick and direct when we do get the ball with players running in behind the space city leave. got to be clinical.

17 Oct 2025 20:28:51
Want a win and think we will but a point would be good.

{Ed025's Note - i think it will be a war of attrition myself GB, i expect us to be on the back foot for most of the game mate and i expect very little..

17 Oct 2025 21:15:33
It’ll be like Anfield all over again but without the spark that is Grealish. Expecting a whooping tomorrow.

{Ed025's Note - unfortunately BR...so am i mate.. :(

18 Oct 2025 09:39:08
I don’t think anyone can doubt Beto’s work rate, it’s the talent that is the issue. He’s frustrating but I like him, no matter how bad things have got, he always gives 100%.

As for the Moyes and Dyche comparisons, while Moyes can be a bit of a loser when it comes to playing away at big teams. He always tries to win home games against anyone.

Dyche went into every game trying to get a point no matter what.

18 Oct 2025 12:10:39
Don’t agree while Beto plays we will continue to lose points which we can’t afford to do.

17 Oct 2025 07:43:45
Morning all just want anyones opinion or even any of the eds can help us I want to buy me mate the everton kit but i can't afford the price here is there any websites where I can get it from abroad cheaper if possible thanks.

{Ed001's Note - we can't tell you mate, sorry, if we allow people to tell you that we would get shut down these days. There are places to get them, but they are very hot on copyright stuff now, we had our final warning for allowing people to share stuff like that and where to watch matches.}

17 Oct 2025 08:44:16
Sorry ed 001 didn't know can only apologise.

{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, not your fault.}

17 Oct 2025 14:53:23
I got mine gobble gobble gobble 😁.