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25 Jul 2021 10:07:12
So how does ffp work when Man Utd whir 500m in debt can still go out and spend a fortune on players?

{Ed002's Note - What?}

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25 Jul 2021 12:09:53
They currently have a debt of over 500m to the Owners. So how is it they can still spend fortunes on players. Or does being in so much debt not effect ffp?

{Ed002's Note - That is not how FFP works.}

25 Jul 2021 13:10:53
Obviously not. So does that then mean our owner could lend the club say 200m without it effecting ffp? Just a thought.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

26 Jul 2021 18:58:37
Sorry if this appears a stupid question Ed002 - but can you explain how Financial Fair Play (FFP) does work then please. (I thought basically you cannot spend over a certain amount of more than you earn as a club over so many seasons - cumulatively) - but may be totally wrong - so apologies in advance!

Also secondly how can teams like Man City allegedly spend more than they generate in income over several seasons and still not be viewed in breach of FFP - again apologies if I’m wrong again!

Any straight forward answers to these questions be really helpful. Thanks very much.

{Ed002's Note - Without going in to detail, your assumption about spending is correct. When MC breached FFP they were punished. They have not done so since. I am not sure what your concern is.}

26 Jul 2021 20:48:27
Just out of curiosity Ed002. Do you know what Uniteds player wages to income percentage is?
I know ours is over 80% but what is theirs?

{Ed002's Note - Around 50% or so.}

26 Jul 2021 21:05:05
Thanks Ed.

27 Jul 2021 10:01:23
So the report i've seen says Man U are ready to let Jones go for free if Everton want him. Doesn't say that Everton want him or have any interest in him what so ever. I'm not worried at all.

27 Jul 2021 10:03:55
aren't Man City still in court with the PL arguing over the alleged breach?

{Ed002's Note - No. That is a different matter.}

27 Jul 2021 10:57:11
The figures mentioned relate to last season.
Really anything over 60% is not good. So Everton have to look at reducing their current wage bill by offloading some of their high earners. This they have started doing with the likes of Bernard 120k per week wage being a good start.
It is also a reason that they will have to look to sell before they buy.
In simple terms last season for every £1 the club earned 80p was going on players wages. If you tried to run your own business like that you wouldn't last long.
It is also the reason why the new ground is so important to the club in generating extra income.

27 Jul 2021 11:29:55
Yep totally agree EFC need to cut there wage bill significantly. God knows why we offered some of the contracts we did in the first place?

27 Jul 2021 14:49:38
Think the new owner just got a little to excited sa90.

27 Jul 2021 20:15:49
Question for the Eds: having read the above comments, does FFP mean the richer will get richer (able to spend big on players due to bigger finances) and poorer get not as rich (due to smaller budgets) ?

I’m starting to think the FFP rules will just keep the top 6 as the top 6 with them slowly gaining more and more over time. Isn’t there some stupid stat that the top 20 most expensive players in the Premier League have been bought by the top 6?

If other clubs are operating in debt, you start to wonder whether FFP is currently doing what it is supposed to do….

{Ed002's Note - FFP rules should stop the Forest, Portsmouth, Sheffield Wednesday financial woes and keep clubs in business and letting them work within their means.}

27 Jul 2021 21:26:59
On the other side of the coin, it will also stop another Chelsea, Man City etc.

No more ‘rags to riches’ possibilities….

02 Aug 2021 18:31:25
It won’t mate.

20 Jul 2021 21:01:54
Delph has to self isolate. can't travel to US. What is the point of this fella, had to be our worst signing. I didn't think he got anywhere near enough to anyone to be honest🤷🏻‍♂️.

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20 Jul 2021 23:48:40
No one going to America now.

21 Jul 2021 01:07:18
He’s been self isolating since we bought him.

20 Jul 2021 07:06:40
Well it's all over the news now. I'm absolutely shocked to the core over it.

I won't make any further comment on here but just feel sorry for those affected and hope they throw away the key if true.

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15 Jul 2021 14:03:57
It’s like deja vue.

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16 Jul 2021 14:11:28
It's like deja vu.

13 Jul 2021 10:25:46
What's up with Small, apparently he has not turned up for training this week, is he trying to force a move.

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13 Jul 2021 17:06:52
If he goes then wish him well. Just hope he doesn't end up another Lookman.

13 Jul 2021 19:32:58
Agree with that mate.

15 Jul 2021 17:58:37
I don't wish him well at all there are ways of doing things and not turning up for training because you think your good enough for first team football isn't one of then and definitely not at 16 years old and just to put that into context Kean wants to leave yet he's turned up to training and acting like a professional footballer should.

16 Jul 2021 22:47:54
That’s agents for you mate. Remember Rooney going.
They don’t make money if players don’t move and he’s just got himself a new one. Kids 16 and having his head turned by a money grabbing agent. Good luck to him, he might need it.

07 Jul 2021 22:50:01
bring on italy cannot wait makes you proud to be english man one match shooutout won't be easy but hopefully and i mean hopefully we get luck our way come on england buzzing.

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12 Jul 2021 12:09:40
Proud to be English? Have you seen the videos of our pathetic fans.

{Ed025's Note - i have skylark, total dick heads and knuckle draggers, im afraid its more of a social problem than than a football one in my view mate, a lack of respect and punishments not being severe enough is not helping..

12 Jul 2021 12:28:34
That's why I watched it at home, stayed away from the pubs couldn't be bothered listening to all the rubbish that our so called fans come out with. and fighting with each other? , it's no wonder we are hated we are an embarrassment.

12 Jul 2021 21:54:58
that was before the match and i must admit now that i have seen them vids am disgusted mate to be honest really sad childish behaviour there's ways to take a defeat but going round fighting just not acceptable and i hope they get action taken so am i proud to be english no am not based on that.

{Ed025's Note - it is only a minority andy but they make me sick mate..

12 Jul 2021 22:17:30
am not going to lie ed 025 but that's left sour taste if am honest mate shocked.

{Ed025's Note - me too andy..

07 Jul 2021 20:53:59
Kasper filbert would be a great signing but he’s probably out of reach for us now.

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05 Jul 2021 21:41:57
James has had a rough ride in recent weeks and none more so than from me.
He’s back at Finch Farm and “appears” to be happy!
It could well be that Ancellotti was the problem and he has paid the price for an overprotective boss (father figure) in that he has received a lot of flak for missing games and apparent bad attitude?

Being dropped by Colombia may well be a kick up the backside he needed and a dent to his ego which could actually work in our favour?
It does also seem that he is pricing himself out of a move elsewhere and hopefully Benitez (still can’t believe I’m referring to him as our manager) can rekindle his relationship with him and get the best out of him. if he stays then it may also help attract some of our targets as whatever anyone thinks about him, he’s a world class player!

If we can keep him and he fires on all cylinders and with Allan, Digne, Godfrey, Pickford, Doucoure, DCL and maybe Richarlison, we have a very strong base of a squad.
After all the doom and gloom of recent weeks could we actually be looking at a brighter future?
Surely we deserve that!

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07 Jul 2021 14:21:21
The problem is that everyone believes what's written in the press. We should all know better, as most of the time, like 99.9(probably a few more 9's in there to be honest) , it is utter tosh. Yet everyone makes a judgement based on this terrible "information" and start having a go at the players.

I agree though, we've got a really good foundation of a team but we need some areas improving. wingers and right back being the main ones for me.


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